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16 Teams and the NFL System
Lately this is all I can think about and I think it would be a great way to run the new league.

Now, let me say this first. This plan can only work if BYU is a member of the conference. It will not work without them.

The FB conference would be made of 16 teams broken into four pods of 4 teams.

North East:
Rutgers
UConn
Temple
Navy

South:
USF
UCF
UofL
Cincy

Mid-West:
Memphis
SMU
Houston
Air Force

West:
BYU
Boise
Fresno
SD St

Every year a given division lets say division A would play its own division (3 games) another whole division, say division B (4 games) and the two teams from the other two divisions that finished the previous season in the same finish order. For example the first place team in division A along with playing its own division it would play all of division B and the first place finisher of division C and D. The second place finisher would play the two second place finishers and so on.

An example schedule in this system base on last years results.

Rutgers-North East division, reigning division champ.

UCF
@Boise
Navy
Houston
@USF
@Cincy
UConn
@Temple
UofL

You then have a four team playoff for the conference championship. The two highest rank division champs host the two lower ranked teams. Championship game hosted by the highest ranked team left.
04-15-2012 06:40 PM
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RE: 16 Teams and the NFL System
I like it and think it would be a little more improved by having the teams in A, B play two teams (one in each) of C, D to ensure that everybody plays all the teams within the whole conference. Is there a plan worked out for a possible CCG game?
04-15-2012 10:21 PM
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RE: 16 Teams and the NFL System
(04-15-2012 10:21 PM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  I like it and think it would be a little more improved by having the teams in A, B play two teams (one in each) of C, D to ensure that everybody plays all the teams within the whole conference. Is there a plan worked out for a possible CCG game?

You mean like this?

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=561928

These ideas are very similar. I like my system better but I like NJ's team selection and quadrant orientation better.

My system ensures that all teams play each other 2 out of 4 years, and that a clear champion is decided at the end of the regular season to represent the Big East in a BCS Bowl.

I like the idea of UCF being in a division with UofL and Cinci.
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RE: 16 Teams and the NFL System
(04-15-2012 11:08 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 10:21 PM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  I like it and think it would be a little more improved by having the teams in A, B play two teams (one in each) of C, D to ensure that everybody plays all the teams within the whole conference. Is there a plan worked out for a possible CCG game?

You mean like this?

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=561928

These ideas are very similar. I like my system better but I like NJ's team selection and quadrant orientation better.

My system ensures that all teams play each other 2 out of 4 years, and that a clear champion is decided at the end of the regular season to represent the Big East in a BCS Bowl.

I like the idea of UCF being in a division with UofL and Cinci.

I have no use for these systems but if we went to 4-team divisions, USF and UCF would have to be paired with Houston and SMU in a southern division.
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RE: 16 Teams and the NFL System
(04-15-2012 11:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 11:08 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 10:21 PM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  I like it and think it would be a little more improved by having the teams in A, B play two teams (one in each) of C, D to ensure that everybody plays all the teams within the whole conference. Is there a plan worked out for a possible CCG game?

You mean like this?

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=561928

These ideas are very similar. I like my system better but I like NJ's team selection and quadrant orientation better.

My system ensures that all teams play each other 2 out of 4 years, and that a clear champion is decided at the end of the regular season to represent the Big East in a BCS Bowl.

I like the idea of UCF being in a division with UofL and Cinci.

I have no use for these systems but if we went to 4-team divisions, USF and UCF would have to be paired with Houston and SMU in a southern division.

Why?

My way you spread around the recruiting areas to more schools.
04-15-2012 11:23 PM
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RE: 16 Teams and the NFL System
This is a college conference, not a professional organization, and cross-country travel should be minimized so that students, because that is still what they are supposed to be, miss as few classes as possible.

The only system that makes sense is two geographically sensible eight-team divisions playing just one crossover game per year. I have no idea why so many fans want complicated schemes for NCAA leagues.
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RE: 16 Teams and the NFL System
(04-16-2012 04:35 PM)Lolly Popp Wrote:  This is a college conference, not a professional organization, and cross-country travel should be minimized so that students, because that is still what they are supposed to be, miss as few classes as possible.

The only system that makes sense is two geographically sensible eight-team divisions playing just one crossover game per year. I have no idea why so many fans want complicated schemes for NCAA leagues.

1. The conference is coast to coast so don't give me this "they need to go to class" BS. It's FB, one day a week for a game.

2. Almost every school is in a major metropolitan area so the travel by plane is minimal. A few hours flying. It isn't that big of a deal anymore.

3. The teams already travel all over as is. Nothing new here.

4. The western teams already would have to travel half the length of the country from Memphis to SD and possibly even farther eats for Navy or Temple being sent to that division.

5. My proposal wouldn't increase travel much at all because these schools would still have to play cross division games and travel across the country anyway.
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RE: 16 Teams and the NFL System
Even better idea....Big East all sports teams should just form their own all sports conference.
04-16-2012 07:02 PM
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(04-16-2012 07:02 PM)cardshouse Wrote:  Even better idea....Big East all sports teams should just form their own all sports conference.

Go ahead. Whose stopping you? You could have done that years ago. Do you know why you haven't? Because UofL and all the other FB schools know it's better to be associated with the Big East. UofL could have had almost the same league plus VT, USC east and others if they didn't play hardball in the Metro conference.

Look at the proposed "Super Conference"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Conference
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RE: 16 Teams and the NFL System
(04-15-2012 11:23 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 11:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 11:08 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 10:21 PM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  I like it and think it would be a little more improved by having the teams in A, B play two teams (one in each) of C, D to ensure that everybody plays all the teams within the whole conference. Is there a plan worked out for a possible CCG game?

You mean like this?

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=561928

These ideas are very similar. I like my system better but I like NJ's team selection and quadrant orientation better.

My system ensures that all teams play each other 2 out of 4 years, and that a clear champion is decided at the end of the regular season to represent the Big East in a BCS Bowl.

I like the idea of UCF being in a division with UofL and Cinci.

I have no use for these systems but if we went to 4-team divisions, USF and UCF would have to be paired with Houston and SMU in a southern division.

Why?

My way you spread around the recruiting areas to more schools.

I am not sure if the Texas and Florida schools have any interest in "spreading the recruiting" areas to more schools, but even if they were, the division i propose makes more sense from travel and rivalry perspectives.
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RE: 16 Teams and the NFL System
(04-17-2012 06:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 11:23 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 11:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 11:08 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(04-15-2012 10:21 PM)fresnostatebulldogfan Wrote:  I like it and think it would be a little more improved by having the teams in A, B play two teams (one in each) of C, D to ensure that everybody plays all the teams within the whole conference. Is there a plan worked out for a possible CCG game?

You mean like this?

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=561928

These ideas are very similar. I like my system better but I like NJ's team selection and quadrant orientation better.

My system ensures that all teams play each other 2 out of 4 years, and that a clear champion is decided at the end of the regular season to represent the Big East in a BCS Bowl.

I like the idea of UCF being in a division with UofL and Cinci.

I have no use for these systems but if we went to 4-team divisions, USF and UCF would have to be paired with Houston and SMU in a southern division.

Why?

My way you spread around the recruiting areas to more schools.

I am not sure if the Texas and Florida schools have any interest in "spreading the recruiting" areas to more schools, but even if they were, the division i propose makes more sense from travel and rivalry perspectives.

Well since three of them are new it would be easier to set up this method now. Also if the rest of the big east gets better on the field thats better overall for the FL and TX teams.
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