Chip Brown is a good dude and a good reporter

One thing to remember- Chip nailed the TCU to the Big 12 story 6 months ago. Absolutely nailed it. So if he were to say something about Clemson and FSU going to the Big 12- I'd believe it in a second.

(04-13-2012 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  One thing to remember- Chip nailed the TCU to the Big 12 story 6 months ago. Absolutely nailed it. So if he were to say something about Clemson and FSU going to the Big 12- I'd believe it in a second.

I agree. I've said that if something about that comes from Texas (as opposed to West Virginia), then I'll listen. The problem that I continue seeing is that *none* of these rumors have come from *any* current Big 12 school, though (much less Texas). Not a peep.

I think this represents WVU fans as a whole on this issue. Regardless of what is reported.

Until a new commissioner is hired, I don't believe anyone will be added.

I don't think anything would happen with it until the 2 TV contracts got settled(and actually probably the SEC as well). Once all 3 get settled, the schools are gonna know the numbers and for how long those deals are set for. That's when the movement potentially would occur.

I think it all comes down to (as one of our FSU fans put it) how bad do they want the money because money is all the Big 12 has to offer CU/FSU.

(04-13-2012 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  One thing to remember- Chip nailed the TCU to the Big 12 story 6 months ago. Absolutely nailed it. So if he were to say something about Clemson and FSU going to the Big 12- I'd believe it in a second.

IIRC, he also had Texas in the PAC as a done deal prior to that. So, there's that.

(04-13-2012 02:23 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  One thing to remember- Chip nailed the TCU to the Big 12 story 6 months ago. Absolutely nailed it. So if he were to say something about Clemson and FSU going to the Big 12- I'd believe it in a second.

IIRC, he also had Texas in the PAC as a done deal prior to that. So, there's that.

That doesn't mean Chip was not just saying what he was told to say.

(04-13-2012 02:29 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:23 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  One thing to remember- Chip nailed the TCU to the Big 12 story 6 months ago. Absolutely nailed it. So if he were to say something about Clemson and FSU going to the Big 12- I'd believe it in a second.

IIRC, he also had Texas in the PAC as a done deal prior to that. So, there's that.

That doesn't mean Chip was not just saying what he was told to say.

Told to say DNE the truth. He's also pushed ND to the Big XII a bunch too, also probably at the behest of Dodds.

(04-13-2012 02:33 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:29 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:23 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  One thing to remember- Chip nailed the TCU to the Big 12 story 6 months ago. Absolutely nailed it. So if he were to say something about Clemson and FSU going to the Big 12- I'd believe it in a second.

IIRC, he also had Texas in the PAC as a done deal prior to that. So, there's that.

That doesn't mean Chip was not just saying what he was told to say.

Told to say DNE the truth. He's also pushed ND to the Big XII a bunch too, also probably at the behest of Dodds.

You have to look at what he wrote. If he wrote, "Sources within the Big 12 tell Orangebloods XYZ", and his sources told him XYZ, then what he is reporting is correct, the question is whether the sources are giving him solid information or just feeding him a dubious story that they want to be reported. Sometimes it's solid info, and sometimes not.

(04-13-2012 02:11 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  I think this represents WVU fans as a whole on this issue. Regardless of what is reported.

You're generalizing, dude. I thought you were smarter than that...

"To generalize is to be an idiot. To particularize is the alone distinction of merit. General knowledge are those knowledge that idiots possess".
- William Blake

Been reading the boards all day, the vast majority seem to believe ACC teams to the B12 is not going to happen. Remember, the B12 itself was on life support just a year ago.

(04-13-2012 02:55 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:33 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:29 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:23 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  One thing to remember- Chip nailed the TCU to the Big 12 story 6 months ago. Absolutely nailed it. So if he were to say something about Clemson and FSU going to the Big 12- I'd believe it in a second.

IIRC, he also had Texas in the PAC as a done deal prior to that. So, there's that.

That doesn't mean Chip was not just saying what he was told to say.

Told to say DNE the truth. He's also pushed ND to the Big XII a bunch too, also probably at the behest of Dodds.

You have to look at what he wrote. If he wrote, "Sources within the Big 12 tell Orangebloods XYZ", and his sources told him XYZ, then what he is reporting is correct, the question is whether the sources are giving him solid information or just feeding him a dubious story that they want to be reported. Sometimes it's solid info, and sometimes not.

And that's why his reports can't be trusted.

(04-13-2012 03:28 PM)Bull Wrote:  Been reading the boards all day, the vast majority seem to believe ACC teams to the B12 is not going to happen. Remember, the B12 itself was on life support just a year ago.

That's because the Big Texas XII WAS (and to some extent, continues to be) instable. Instable enough for a stalwart like Texas A&M to leave, along with Missouri.

The ACC, however, is stable, and the despite the rantings of a few CU fans and a few hopeful WVU fans, Clemson and FSU are going nowhere.

(04-13-2012 03:37 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 03:28 PM)Bull Wrote:  Been reading the boards all day, the vast majority seem to believe ACC teams to the B12 is not going to happen. Remember, the B12 itself was on life support just a year ago.

That's because the Big Texas XII WAS (and to some extent, continues to be) instable. Instable enough for a stalwart like Texas A&M to leave, along with Missouri.

The ACC, however, is stable, and the despite the rantings of a few CU fans and a few hopeful WVU fans, Clemson and FSU are going nowhere.

Do stable conferences raise their exit fees? What is the SEC and Big 10 exit fee?

(04-13-2012 03:48 PM)EerMeNow Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 03:37 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 03:28 PM)Bull Wrote:  Been reading the boards all day, the vast majority seem to believe ACC teams to the B12 is not going to happen. Remember, the B12 itself was on life support just a year ago.

That's because the Big Texas XII WAS (and to some extent, continues to be) instable. Instable enough for a stalwart like Texas A&M to leave, along with Missouri.

The ACC, however, is stable, and the despite the rantings of a few CU fans and a few hopeful WVU fans, Clemson and FSU are going nowhere.

Do stable conferences raise their exit fees? What is the SEC and Big 10 exit fee?

SEC, nothing. B1G, a 25 year grant of rights.

(04-13-2012 03:51 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 03:48 PM)EerMeNow Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 03:37 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 03:28 PM)Bull Wrote:  Been reading the boards all day, the vast majority seem to believe ACC teams to the B12 is not going to happen. Remember, the B12 itself was on life support just a year ago.

That's because the Big Texas XII WAS (and to some extent, continues to be) instable. Instable enough for a stalwart like Texas A&M to leave, along with Missouri.

The ACC, however, is stable, and the despite the rantings of a few CU fans and a few hopeful WVU fans, Clemson and FSU are going nowhere.

Do stable conferences raise their exit fees? What is the SEC and Big 10 exit fee?

SEC, nothing. B1G, a 25 year grant of rights.

Commuter Bob sees my point.

You're generalizing, dude. I thought you were smarter than that...

"To generalize is to be an idiot. To particularize is the alone distinction of merit. General knowledge are those knowledge that idiots possess".
- William Blake
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Just funin ya Bit. I know you are smarter than that.

Hey if Clemson and FSU really want to move.....that is their business....it just doesn't make sense to some of us and it seems the only people on this board that are pushing the concept are WVU fans.....maybe it's just EERFan.....I can't tell...

you all look alike to me!

(04-13-2012 03:51 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 03:48 PM)EerMeNow Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 03:37 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(04-13-2012 03:28 PM)Bull Wrote:  Been reading the boards all day, the vast majority seem to believe ACC teams to the B12 is not going to happen. Remember, the B12 itself was on life support just a year ago.

That's because the Big Texas XII WAS (and to some extent, continues to be) instable. Instable enough for a stalwart like Texas A&M to leave, along with Missouri.

The ACC, however, is stable, and the despite the rantings of a few CU fans and a few hopeful WVU fans, Clemson and FSU are going nowhere.

Do stable conferences raise their exit fees? What is the SEC and Big 10 exit fee?

SEC, nothing. B1G, a 25 year grant of rights.

I don't think anyone would argue that the B10 and SEC are at the 'top' of the mountain. I fail to see how that has anything at all to do with the question: would ACC teams consider moving to the B12? Clearly the ACC is the more stable of the two, exit fees not withstanding. The B12 may put on some lipstick and try to lure a few ACC teams, but consensus seems to be 'ain't gonna happen!'. lol