(04-11-2012 10:42 AM)Max Power Wrote:  [quote='Bull_In_Exile' pid='7776852' dateline='1334155704']
By that logic everyone who does not pay federal taxes (47% of the pop) yet gets the benefit of those taxes is also selfish right?

If that's their only motivation, sure.

Yet you don't make the same allowance for people from the other side... Interesting..

But I have less of a problem of people who vote to keep food on the tablee, medical care and housing for them and their kids

What about the people who vote because they want to continue contributing 0% to their state funded retirement and medical benefits? Selfish teachers?

And we both know the safety net goes well past just food, shelter, healthcare.

Quote:than the rich guy who votes to keep his taxes low so he can buy a couple more Rolls Royces this year or throw it on the pile.

Nice bait and switch! *anyone* concerned about their taxes now equal a person with a Rolls collection!

Quote:And I don't think everyone who pays taxes and votes GOP is selfish. They may have other motivations.

Yet thats pretty much what you imply all the time.

Conservatives are dumb, selfish, evil, hateful, people...

(04-11-2012 10:51 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 09:54 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  1.) You're still wrong.

2.) The conservatives on this board still provide less demonstration of "selfishness" than the liberals.

3.) You haven't defined selfishness, so you're just dottering around trying to make it mean whatever happens to be convenient

1.) Nuh uh.

2.) If they're selfish they're smart enough not to "demonstrate" it

3.) Selfishness--having plenty and voting yourself tax breaks while people in this country don't have basic food, medical care and shelter

Aha. So you make even more errors.
1. Arbitrarily stating that voting for tax breaks makes one selfish.

2. No one in the US lacks basic food, medical are or shelter, unless they willfully live in Appalachia and avoid access to these.

Quote:

Quote:No you don't. Because those words are antithetical. Therefore you don't even have a grasp of the English language, let alone logic and more profound philosophical capabilities.

Charitable and steal are antithetical? First of all, I don't consider

Regardless. I know you're solipsistic and crave being in power max, but no matter what you "consider" the words do have meanings.

Quote:I'm not watching your videos. I demand you summarize them.

Go voice your daddy issues somewhere else.

Quote:Local governments here and in Britain had to step in centuries ago to set up shelters for the poor because the private sector wasn't charitable enough.

Already established that you don't know history.

(04-11-2012 10:51 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Local governments here and in Britain had to step in centuries ago to set up shelters for the poor because the private sector wasn't charitable enough.

Or because bureaucrats figured out that they could get their hands on more money when it's under the guise of philanthropy.

(04-11-2012 10:43 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 10:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 07:12 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  41, white, conservative, Christian. Combined annual income with Mrs. NG about $75,000-$80,000. We both do a lot of pro-bono work. Me as a lawyer, Mrs. NG in the health care industry.

If I were you, I wouldn't let your righty friends know you are a lawyer.

Righties like the lawyers who work for corporations and rich clients, to help the rich get richer.

So? The rich get richer, and so do the poor. Good for everyone. It's the lawyers who keep everyone poor who are the problem.

(04-11-2012 11:11 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 10:43 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 10:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 07:12 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  41, white, conservative, Christian. Combined annual income with Mrs. NG about $75,000-$80,000. We both do a lot of pro-bono work. Me as a lawyer, Mrs. NG in the health care industry.

If I were you, I wouldn't let your righty friends know you are a lawyer.

Righties like the lawyers who work for corporations and rich clients, to help the rich get richer.

So? The rich get richer, and so do the poor. Good for everyone. It's the lawyers who keep everyone poor who are the problem.

Poor little trickledown brainwashed fool.

(04-11-2012 09:54 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 09:03 AM)Max Power Wrote:  As I've said on here, if the market and private giving could take care of them without gov't intervention I'd be all for it, but history shows that isn't the case.

Once again, you're wrong.

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2012/04/ener...-ohio.html

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2012/04/powe...arket.html

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2012/04/wome...ellus.html

I missed this one. Knew I saw one today, it's probably best of the bunch.

http://www.city-journal.org/2012/eon0409gs.html

(04-11-2012 10:43 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 10:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 07:12 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  41, white, conservative, Christian. Combined annual income with Mrs. NG about $75,000-$80,000. We both do a lot of pro-bono work. Me as a lawyer, Mrs. NG in the health care industry.

If I were you, I wouldn't let your righty friends know you are a lawyer.

Righties like the lawyers who work for corporations and rich clients, to help the rich get richer.

Looking at NG's combined family income, I don't think either of those apply to him.

(04-11-2012 12:32 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 10:43 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 10:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-11-2012 07:12 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  41, white, conservative, Christian. Combined annual income with Mrs. NG about $75,000-$80,000. We both do a lot of pro-bono work. Me as a lawyer, Mrs. NG in the health care industry.

If I were you, I wouldn't let your righty friends know you are a lawyer.

Righties like the lawyers who work for corporations and rich clients, to help the rich get richer.

Looking at NG's combined family income, I don't think either of those apply to him.

Obviously. Which is how we know he isn't working for a large corporation. Thus why he should just be quiet about being a lawyer.

(04-10-2012 03:30 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  Age - 39
Race - Caucasian
Class - upper middle class
Selfish - support several charities
Boomer - nope
Religion - nope. Raised Catholic, but now firmly agnostic.
Politics - generally progressive
Family - married, no kids

You and Biden are two of a kind

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2012/04/chan...ng-as.html

(04-11-2012 09:04 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  So we have little or no diversity in race on this board...that's disappointing.

Can't force people to join.....but if we intentionally kept them out - Bang, Zoom.

Age - 55
Race - Caucasian
Class - I guess from looking at the charts in this thread I'd qualify as upper middle
Selfish - No - (although very few would admit to being selfish) - give to a couple of charities and some time as well.
Boomer - Yep
Religious - Anglican - although I am crappy at attending church regularly.
Politics - fiscally conservative. socially - lean way more liberal - what others do I could care less as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.
Married - 31 years to the same woman & she's still a looker. 3 grown children - 30 daughter, 26 - son - 25 son. (all college grads)

Age - 41
Race - Caucasian
Class - 130+ I'm middle class where I live.
Selfish - give what I can. The truth. I like the tax breaks. Decide where my tax dollars are spent. If I didn't get the tax break I don't think I'd be as generous.
Generation X. I pumped iron and took my vitamins like the Hulkster and can quote Top Gun line by line
Religious - Agnostic
Politics - lean liberal - but hate the moniker and cookie cutter view
Married - 17 years. I always say I out kicked my coverage. Married up. 3 children - 13yo daughter, 9yo - son - 4 yo daughter.

Age - 33
White - Yes
Rich -Middle Class. Actually middle class. Not a rich guy who doesnt know he's rich.
Selfish - yes.
Boomer - only in the bedroom
Religious - Nope
Political views - I am a fan of moderation in politics and rhetoric. Anything other than that is on an issue by issue basis using a logic and reason. No one has a monopoly on the truth and no one is right all the time. Robert, however, has proven to me that someone can be wrong all the time.
Awesome - meh