(04-10-2012 03:48 PM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 02:57 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 01:36 PM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  Lots of jealousy in this thread....
Like I said in the other thread (me and Minor posted about the same time), this should be simple. Temple is a perfect school to line up next to UConn and Rutgers. I should probably be happy. Boise is gonna roll the west.. I think Fresno, Nevada, and Hawaii was more of a gauntlet than Temple, Memphis, SMU, and SDSU. Only Houston makes me somewhat nervous. And we are gonna get a better paycheck for this? I will take it every year.....Boise has it made.

Didn't you (and Boise officials) want a harder schedule? Wasn't that part of the point in relocating? Serious questions.

From what I have gathered over the years:
Boise wanted in the Mountain West but wanted teams to schedule them home and homes from the power conferences or play them on a neutral field. ESPN has helped Boise with the neutral field and Boise has helped ESPN get big ratings on opening week.
Then after Boise went to the Mountain West it ended up looking nothing like it did when the Broncos got there. Kustra had a press conference that basically said Boise would contact a few conferences (Big East and Big 12 from what I heard), about a football only spot if Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State did not go to the Mountain West during the Texas to PAC-12 rumors. The Big East called and the rumor is Boise will make 6 times the amount just with football and the Big East will help Boise with their Basketball schedule.
Yes- They wanted a stronger schedule but my guess is they meant there O.O.C. schedule. But this actually works out better for the Broncos. Instead of playing games like Oregon, VA Tech, Michigan State, and Georgia like they have the last 4 years, they can schedule one above average opponent and a few cup cakes and go to the BCS like 85% of the other teams out there do it. The Big East is a nice looking conference from top to bottom and I feel it is on par with the ACC and PAC-12. But I do not see a consistent top 20 team in The Big East aside from Boise...although I think Louisville, Memphis, and Houston could easily become one.
I honestly feel Boise has it made now. I also think next years Boise schedule (Michigan State, BYU, Southern Miss non-conference), will be on par with their first Big East schedule. But for whatever reason.....Boise will be punished for their schedule next year even if they go undefeated (which I doubt happens). Yet another reason to take the money and run. Everyone says we have no tradition anyway other than a blue rug. So I guess they said screw it.....we will take the money and exposure instead of the tradition. Our tradition will just be winning.
Also- ESPN is reportedly working on another Big Boise State match-up for the 2013-2014 season now according to the Statesman.

More power to ya. ECU could learn some lessons from Boise State. We've pretty much screwed ourselves over the past 10 years.

I think what makes the 14th member be from the west and not the BE's west is that they don't want anyone in their current bball footprint where they'd feel forced to give full membership. AFA, Fresno, anyone west of Dallas would be the fb only safe zone. 14/18 much better for the BE than 14/19

boise should rule the west.

(04-10-2012 04:39 PM)YA! Wrote:  boise should rule the west.

Going by recent history (Like the last 5 or 6 years), the East will have more power but will probably beat each other up. The west will be Boise and whoever steps up at the time.
One thing The Big East will do for everyone from Temple and Memphis too Boise and SDSU is give them more resources than they have ever had thanks to the upcoming contract. If anything Memphis, UCF and The Texas schools should really get a good boost thanks to an all out invite. But I am guessing teams like Memphis will be a hell of a lot better in a few years time.
Hopefully whatever turd Boise Olympic sports ends up end gets a decent deal somewhere.

(04-10-2012 04:11 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  I think what makes the 14th member be from the west and not the BE's west is that they don't want anyone in their current bball footprint where they'd feel forced to give full membership. AFA, Fresno, anyone west of Dallas would be the fb only safe zone. 14/18 much better for the BE than 14/19

Don't think it really matters Fres. The train is leaving the station and if the BE went to any team in the "East" now and said "Football only, take it or leave it"....that team would take it. The only exception might be Army. The only teams left in the East that the BE "could" or "might" invite would be from CUSA East and UMass. None...would turn down a football only invite IMO.
Odds are AF changes it's mind and goes BE. They'll be at 14. Then Army is convinced later to come in the East and Fresno or UNLV come in from the West to make it 16. If Louisville doesn't roll out until 2014 or later, then and only then would the BE possibly replace them with a USM / ECU and only because at that point each of the former CUSA schools (UCF,Houston, etc.) would have a vote and IMO more consideration would be given to things other than just market.

(04-10-2012 05:10 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 04:11 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  I think what makes the 14th member be from the west and not the BE's west is that they don't want anyone in their current bball footprint where they'd feel forced to give full membership. AFA, Fresno, anyone west of Dallas would be the fb only safe zone. 14/18 much better for the BE than 14/19

Don't think it really matters Fres. The train is leaving the station and if the BE went to any team in the "East" now and said "Football only, take it or leave it"....that team would take it. The only exception might be Army. The only teams left in the East that the BE "could" or "might" invite would be from CUSA East and UMass. None...would turn down a football only invite IMO.
Odds are AF changes it's mind and goes BE. They'll be at 14. Then Army is convinced later to come in the East and Fresno or UNLV come in from the West to make it 16. If Louisville doesn't roll out until 2014 or later, then and only then would the BE possibly replace them with a USM / ECU and only because at that point each of the former CUSA schools (UCF,Houston, etc.) would have a vote and IMO more consideration would be given to things other than just market.

I thought your Prez didn't want to be fb only?

Why not leave Navy and Temple in the east and add 2 teams to the west?

(04-10-2012 06:46 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Why not leave Navy and Temple in the east and add 2 teams to the west?

Memphis AD has said that Navy was willing to go in the western division. They already have a rivalry game with SMU and a potential one with SDSU. Unless AFA and BYU is the two western teams there is no need to go past 14 teams. Even if two teams leave the Big East will still be at 12 teams.

Potential Conference in 2015
East
Temple, UCF, USF, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, Cincinnati

West
SDSU, Boise State, SMU, Houston, Memphis, Navy, Potential western team

(04-10-2012 12:01 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 11:58 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  It's a football only divisional setup, I don't think it really matters too much, you only travel 4 or 5 times a year within conference anyway. When expansion is over, then they can adjust, for now it is what it is... I fully expect them to back-fill with additional members before expanding the footprint further (Air Force or BYU over Fresno); and I said a long time ago, the divisions would be "Gavitt" and "Tranghese" or something similar and not geographic based.

This.

OT: Your avatar got busted for beating his girlfriend. Thought I'd let you know before people give you sh*t for it. Nash would be a reasonable replacement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/scott-hall-...--spt.html

(04-10-2012 07:07 PM)ollin Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 06:46 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Why not leave Navy and Temple in the east and add 2 teams to the west?

Memphis AD has said that Navy was willing to go in the western division. They already have a rivalry game with SMU and a potential one with SDSU. Unless AFA and BYU is the two western teams there is no need to go past 14 teams. Even if two teams leave the Big East will still be at 12 teams.

Potential Conference in 2015
East
Temple, UCF, USF, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, Cincinnati

West
SDSU, Boise State, SMU, Houston, Memphis, Navy, Potential western team

This is the most likely outcome.

And the priority list for the additional western school is something we already know: 1) BYU, 2) AFA, 3) Fresno.

(04-10-2012 06:41 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 05:10 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 04:11 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  I think what makes the 14th member be from the west and not the BE's west is that they don't want anyone in their current bball footprint where they'd feel forced to give full membership. AFA, Fresno, anyone west of Dallas would be the fb only safe zone. 14/18 much better for the BE than 14/19

Don't think it really matters Fres. The train is leaving the station and if the BE went to any team in the "East" now and said "Football only, take it or leave it"....that team would take it. The only exception might be Army. The only teams left in the East that the BE "could" or "might" invite would be from CUSA East and UMass. None...would turn down a football only invite IMO.
Odds are AF changes it's mind and goes BE. They'll be at 14. Then Army is convinced later to come in the East and Fresno or UNLV come in from the West to make it 16. If Louisville doesn't roll out until 2014 or later, then and only then would the BE possibly replace them with a USM / ECU and only because at that point each of the former CUSA schools (UCF,Houston, etc.) would have a vote and IMO more consideration would be given to things other than just market.

I thought your Prez didn't want to be fb only?

(04-10-2012 07:15 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 12:01 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 11:58 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  It's a football only divisional setup, I don't think it really matters too much, you only travel 4 or 5 times a year within conference anyway. When expansion is over, then they can adjust, for now it is what it is... I fully expect them to back-fill with additional members before expanding the footprint further (Air Force or BYU over Fresno); and I said a long time ago, the divisions would be "Gavitt" and "Tranghese" or something similar and not geographic based.

This.

OT: Your avatar got busted for beating his girlfriend. Thought I'd let you know before people give you sh*t for it. Nash would be a reasonable replacement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/scott-hall-...--spt.html

smh. Hated to see it. The poor guy has had these problems for years. Those demons are very hard to get rid of.

(04-10-2012 09:03 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 07:15 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 12:01 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 11:58 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  It's a football only divisional setup, I don't think it really matters too much, you only travel 4 or 5 times a year within conference anyway. When expansion is over, then they can adjust, for now it is what it is... I fully expect them to back-fill with additional members before expanding the footprint further (Air Force or BYU over Fresno); and I said a long time ago, the divisions would be "Gavitt" and "Tranghese" or something similar and not geographic based.

This.

OT: Your avatar got busted for beating his girlfriend. Thought I'd let you know before people give you sh*t for it. Nash would be a reasonable replacement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/scott-hall-...--spt.html

smh. Hated to see it. The poor guy has had these problems for years. Those demons are very hard to get rid of.

I was a Road Warriors and Sing guy myself but I haven't watched since right before WWE bought out WCW. I used to love to watch both along w/ ECW and AWA, WCCW. UFC has been my replacement since.

I think one of the Florida teams will be in the west rather then Temple. That would be newcomer UCF as USF will stay in the east. I liked the names someone mentioned (Colonial for the East division and Frontier for the West division). Sounds better the Legends and Leaders.

(04-10-2012 10:21 PM)RUfan03 Wrote:  I think one of the Florida teams will be in the west rather then Temple. That would be newcomer UCF as USF will stay in the east. I liked the names someone mentioned (Colonial for the East division and Frontier for the West division). Sounds better the Legends and Leaders.

It just needs to start w/ 2 different letters, you'd think all those AAU schools would know, Legends and Leaders is just confusing. So as long as the don't go w/ East and Eastern as the 2 names

(04-10-2012 11:59 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 11:48 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 11:42 AM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  just another reason I thank whatever deity is out there that WVU got away from this cluster f**k

just when you think the BE people can't get any dumber, they go and prove you wrong

Temple will probably have an easier time flying into the western cities of the nBe, than WV will have making it into the small rural armpits like Manhattan, Kansas.

The Mountaineers may have a rough time finding Manhattan, Kansas, but 40,000-50,000 fans a game won't. Which is twice as many as are likely to find the Linc on Saturdays.

you're being generous; I doubt Temple will pull down 20K fans for a game

I can see Temple averaging 30K this season. They have a great schedule, which looks a lot like a WVU schedule from the 1970s...

(04-11-2012 12:00 AM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 11:59 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 11:48 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 11:42 AM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  just another reason I thank whatever deity is out there that WVU got away from this cluster f**k

just when you think the BE people can't get any dumber, they go and prove you wrong

Temple will probably have an easier time flying into the western cities of the nBe, than WV will have making it into the small rural armpits like Manhattan, Kansas.

The Mountaineers may have a rough time finding Manhattan, Kansas, but 40,000-50,000 fans a game won't. Which is twice as many as are likely to find the Linc on Saturdays.

you're being generous; I doubt Temple will pull down 20K fans for a game

Why? Their attendance has been improving along with the program since Golden turned things around. Being in a higher profile conference with higher profile competition should only increase interest. Temple has a pretty large alumni base to begin with and they do a MUCH better job of getting current students interested and involved with the program than they used to. If they can make bowls most years and challenge for the conference championship on occasion they have a huge upside.

Apparently they're not improving enough to make it justifiable to play 12 games this year.

(04-10-2012 02:10 PM)Wedge Wrote:  I see in these articles that no one is even pretending that Pitt and Syracuse will be in the Big East in fall 2013.