(04-09-2012 01:10 AM)monty Wrote:  A heads up on the link - the guy that blogs that site has just awful opinion pieces replete with absurd errors - spelling, grammar and factual.

Some of us openly wonder if that dude is just trolling Aztec fans.

So, take a grain of salt, then a few billion more and salt that field.

That guy is no troll.

That guy is one of the biggest Aztec fans I have ever met and at 18 years old knows sports better than most I have met.

He has a very big following on and is up and coming in the San Diego Sports scene.

I am not sure why a few of you constantly hammer this kid for doing what he loves and having the balls to do it at 18. I think some may be very jealous of him because some of you (gang) love to take shots at him. Especially you guys that are recently (within the last 10 years) out of school and have done nothing with your lives yet.

Why don't you try supporting him. He has a great sports mind, has the desire to get it done, the nerve to get started (most people don't at any age), is a San Diegan, and loves Aztec Sports like no other.

Why demonize the guy?

(04-10-2012 01:25 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  

(04-09-2012 10:34 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Some of these schools we're discussing...

...If these are the best we can come up with, might as well keep it at 11.

With all due respect, some of you guys amaze with your comments about the West and its potential teams.

We have been discussing Air Force, BYU, Fresno State for the most part. I will put them up against any NBE (or old Big East) football team night in and night out.

As for others mentioned as possible...Nevada has been mentioned a couple of times and I think they would fair pretty well against most NBE teams and within 2 years of being in the conf. compete with anybody in conf.

I know many love to take shots at UNLV right now (including many in the West) For those of you who do, are you OK with San Diego State coming in to the conf. now? If you are, UNLV is right where San Diego State was 4/5 years ago...No attendance, No wins, program with great potential. San Diego State has made a real nice comeback into the football world the last 3/4 years and there is no reason UNLV could not do the same...Especially with the Big East, AQ, and BCS tag next to its name.

The Big East has to think short term AND long term right now. While UNLV is long term thinking, don't be surprised if they could make the jump very quick.

Why bother?

The "new" Big East teams have already been invited and have accepted...with one of them (Temple) starting football this year.

The others you named have yet to accept an offer and in some cases, (like Fresno) even been offered even a partial football only invite.

(04-10-2012 01:25 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  

(04-09-2012 10:34 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Some of these schools we're discussing...

...If these are the best we can come up with, might as well keep it at 11.

With all due respect, some of you guys amaze with your comments about the West and its potential teams.

We have been discussing Air Force, BYU, Fresno State for the most part. I will put them up against any NBE (or old Big East) football team night in and night out.

As for others mentioned as possible...Nevada has been mentioned a couple of times and I think they would fair pretty well against most NBE teams and within 2 years of being in the conf. compete with anybody in conf.

I know many love to take shots at UNLV right now (including many in the West) For those of you who do, are you OK with San Diego State coming in to the conf. now? If you are, UNLV is right where San Diego State was 4/5 years ago...No attendance, No wins, program with great potential. San Diego State has made a real nice comeback into the football world the last 3/4 years and there is no reason UNLV could not do the same...Especially with the Big East, AQ, and BCS tag next to its name.

The Big East has to think short term AND long term right now. While UNLV is long term thinking, don't be surprised if they could make the jump very quick.

No, not really.

(04-10-2012 01:49 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 01:25 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  

(04-09-2012 10:34 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Some of these schools we're discussing...

...If these are the best we can come up with, might as well keep it at 11.

With all due respect, some of you guys amaze with your comments about the West and its potential teams.

We have been discussing Air Force, BYU, Fresno State for the most part. I will put them up against any NBE (or old Big East) football team night in and night out.

As for others mentioned as possible...Nevada has been mentioned a couple of times and I think they would fair pretty well against most NBE teams and within 2 years of being in the conf. compete with anybody in conf.

I know many love to take shots at UNLV right now (including many in the West) For those of you who do, are you OK with San Diego State coming in to the conf. now? If you are, UNLV is right where San Diego State was 4/5 years ago...No attendance, No wins, program with great potential. San Diego State has made a real nice comeback into the football world the last 3/4 years and there is no reason UNLV could not do the same...Especially with the Big East, AQ, and BCS tag next to its name.

The Big East has to think short term AND long term right now. While UNLV is long term thinking, don't be surprised if they could make the jump very quick.

Why bother?

The "new" Big East teams have already been invited and have accepted...with one of them (Temple) starting football this year.

The others you named have yet to accept an offer and in some cases, (like Fresno) even been offered even a partial football only invite.

Exactly.

(04-10-2012 02:56 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  For those of you who do, are you OK with San Diego State coming in to the conf. now?

No, not really.

I completely understand that sentiment. However, I recall when SDSU hosted CU about five years ago - during which you were fortunate enough to face the worst HC in SDSU history - that a number of CU fans came to the SDSU board and said how much it had helped recruiting to move from CUSA to the BE. I expect a similar uptick in recruiting for SDSU so I think you'll see us a more viable member of the conference down the road. And since our basketball program is improving about as much as any in the country, we would be a very good addition if the BE should decide to morph the western division into an all-sports one.

(04-10-2012 03:05 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 02:56 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  For those of you who do, are you OK with San Diego State coming in to the conf. now?

No, not really.

I completely understand that sentiment. However, I recall when SDSU hosted CU about five years ago - during which you were fortunate enough to face the worst HC in SDSU history - that a number of CU fans came to the SDSU board and said how much it had helped recruiting to move from CUSA to the BE. I expect a similar uptick in recruiting for SDSU so I think you'll see us a more viable member of the conference down the road. And since our basketball program is improving about as much as any in the country, we would be a very good addition if the BE should decide to morph the western division into an all-sports one.

I think SDST can definitely become a very football program, however they don't really belong in the Big East. Boise State was the only program out there that "is worth" the addition being that far away.

(04-10-2012 02:56 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 01:25 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  

(04-09-2012 10:34 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Some of these schools we're discussing...

...If these are the best we can come up with, might as well keep it at 11.

With all due respect, some of you guys amaze with your comments about the West and its potential teams.

We have been discussing Air Force, BYU, Fresno State for the most part. I will put them up against any NBE (or old Big East) football team night in and night out.

As for others mentioned as possible...Nevada has been mentioned a couple of times and I think they would fair pretty well against most NBE teams and within 2 years of being in the conf. compete with anybody in conf.

I know many love to take shots at UNLV right now (including many in the West) For those of you who do, are you OK with San Diego State coming in to the conf. now? If you are, UNLV is right where San Diego State was 4/5 years ago...No attendance, No wins, program with great potential. San Diego State has made a real nice comeback into the football world the last 3/4 years and there is no reason UNLV could not do the same...Especially with the Big East, AQ, and BCS tag next to its name.

The Big East has to think short term AND long term right now. While UNLV is long term thinking, don't be surprised if they could make the jump very quick.

No, not really.

Then we will just come in and beat your butt.

(04-10-2012 03:09 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 03:05 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 02:56 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  For those of you who do, are you OK with San Diego State coming in to the conf. now?

No, not really.

I completely understand that sentiment. However, I recall when SDSU hosted CU about five years ago - during which you were fortunate enough to face the worst HC in SDSU history - that a number of CU fans came to the SDSU board and said how much it had helped recruiting to move from CUSA to the BE. I expect a similar uptick in recruiting for SDSU so I think you'll see us a more viable member of the conference down the road. And since our basketball program is improving about as much as any in the country, we would be a very good addition if the BE should decide to morph the western division into an all-sports one.

I think SDST can definitely become a very football program, however they don't really belong in the Big East. Boise State was the only program out there that "is worth" the addition being that far away.

Apologies in advance to Boise State fans...BUT...Just thinking long term again...

When Boise State drops to a .500 team sometime in the next 5-10 years and the Aztecs rise to 10-1 year after year...Is Boise State still the only team "worth" inviting?

In this case you would be stuck with a team in the middle of nowhere in Idaho with no following nationally what so ever.

When the Aztecs are average you at least have a big market, recruiting area, destination...Again, long term thinking. Boise State is not going to be on top forever.

(04-10-2012 01:36 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  

(04-09-2012 01:10 AM)monty Wrote:  A heads up on the link - the guy that blogs that site has just awful opinion pieces replete with absurd errors - spelling, grammar and factual.

Some of us openly wonder if that dude is just trolling Aztec fans.

So, take a grain of salt, then a few billion more and salt that field.

That guy is no troll.

That guy is one of the biggest Aztec fans I have ever met and at 18 years old knows sports better than most I have met.

He has a very big following on and is up and coming in the San Diego Sports scene.

I am not sure why a few of you constantly hammer this kid for doing what he loves and having the balls to do it at 18. I think some may be very jealous of him because some of you (gang) love to take shots at him. Especially you guys that are recently (within the last 10 years) out of school and have done nothing with your lives yet.

Why don't you try supporting him. He has a great sports mind, has the desire to get it done, the nerve to get started (most people don't at any age), is a San Diegan, and loves Aztec Sports like no other.

Why demonize the guy?

Because everything I've seen has been presented as fact when it is nothing more than wild speculation and uncredited when I can trace the germ of some of those thoughts to other sources. He also can't take the time to proofread, even run it through firefox and he'll get red squiggles under some of the absurd spelling errors.

(04-10-2012 01:25 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  With all due respect, some of you guys amaze with your comments about the West and its potential teams.

We have been discussing Air Force, BYU, Fresno State for the most part. I will put them up against any NBE (or old Big East) football team night in and night out.

Maybe I should have been more specific about what I was referring to. I'm not even necessarily talking about Western teams.

I have no problem at all with those three, although I see Fresno State as at least one tier down from AFA or BYU. I would actually applaud the leadership of this conference if it abstained from bending over backwards for BYU, so I've personally written them off.

What I'm referring to is the calls for most of the MWC remainders like Colorado State, and now UNLV, and God forbid - Eastern based D-IAA teams (or teams who haven't been D-IA for long) like UMass, and Georgia State. Reading this board, it seems everyone wants to invite everyone.

So, for God sakes, I'll say it again -

NO ALLIANCES PLEASE!!

(04-10-2012 03:09 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  I think SDST can definitely become a very football program, however they don't really belong in the Big East. Boise State was the only program out there that "is worth" the addition being that far away.

Agreed. To a point.

SDSU's football program has vastly underachieved. The school is huge. Somebody said on our board they heard SDSU has 160K living alumni. Nevertheless, we haven't averaged above 40K per game since Marshall Faulk left. (Came close the last couple years so maybe we'll get it done in 2012.)

SDSU is probably quite similar to UC, actually. Maybe I'm uninformed but it seems your biggest problem has always been being in Ohio State's shadow. Similarly we've always been in the shadow of a football power not all that far away, USC. Correct me if I'm wrong but you guys can hardly get the Buckeyes to play you. Same for us and the Trojans. Last time they hosted us we lost by a FG at the Coliseum and might arguably have won except the officials called an incomplete pass on dropped pass in the flat that SDSU picked up and took to the house which the replay showed was clearly a lateral.

We've similarly been in UCLA's shadow in hoops. Thankfully we will actually be playing them this season. And on a neutral court halfway between the two schools in Anaheim. Seems to me UC hasn't had quite the same problem with Ohio State when it comes to basketball.

(04-10-2012 03:55 PM)monty Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 01:36 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  

(04-09-2012 01:10 AM)monty Wrote:  A heads up on the link - the guy that blogs that site has just awful opinion pieces replete with absurd errors - spelling, grammar and factual.

Some of us openly wonder if that dude is just trolling Aztec fans.

So, take a grain of salt, then a few billion more and salt that field.

That guy is no troll.

That guy is one of the biggest Aztec fans I have ever met and at 18 years old knows sports better than most I have met.

He has a very big following on and is up and coming in the San Diego Sports scene.

I am not sure why a few of you constantly hammer this kid for doing what he loves and having the balls to do it at 18. I think some may be very jealous of him because some of you (gang) love to take shots at him. Especially you guys that are recently (within the last 10 years) out of school and have done nothing with your lives yet.

Why don't you try supporting him. He has a great sports mind, has the desire to get it done, the nerve to get started (most people don't at any age), is a San Diegan, and loves Aztec Sports like no other.

Why demonize the guy?

Because everything I've seen has been presented as fact when it is nothing more than wild speculation and uncredited when I can trace the germ of some of those thoughts to other sources. He also can't take the time to proofread, even run it through firefox and he'll get red squiggles under some of the absurd spelling errors.

So your solution is to gang up on him, call him a troll, and make fun of him (I do realize one of your hot buttons is proper writing...Hell you made fun of me mispelling surprise forever on another board).

Whatever Monty. He is 18 years old and moving into the sports world. He will be drawing a paycheck (and I believe he is already drawing a paycheck right now) and making a living commenting and writing on sports. Something many on sports boards would love to have the opportunity to do.

He will be well known in the Aztec Sports community for years to come and I will support him.

(04-10-2012 04:06 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(04-10-2012 01:25 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  With all due respect, some of you guys amaze with your comments about the West and its potential teams.

We have been discussing Air Force, BYU, Fresno State for the most part. I will put them up against any NBE (or old Big East) football team night in and night out.

Maybe I should have been more specific about what I was referring to. I'm not even necessarily talking about Western teams.

I have no problem at all with those three, although I see Fresno State as at least one tier down from AFA or BYU. I would actually applaud the leadership of this conference if it abstained from bending over backwards for BYU, so I've personally written them off.

What I'm referring to is the calls for most of the MWC remainders like Colorado State, and now UNLV, and God forbid - Eastern based D-IAA teams (or teams who haven't been D-IA for long) like UMass, and Georgia State. Reading this board, it seems everyone wants to invite everyone.

So, for God sakes, I'll say it again -

NO ALLIANCES PLEASE!!

Thanks for the clarification.

JMO...UNLV has WAYYY more upside and should be considered with an invite over the 3 I mention below.

I agree with you on Colorado State, UMass, and Georgia State.

I will just say this. Some of you newcomers from the west have bought into the inferiority of the current Big East football members sold by the media. You will find out soon enough that going undefeated in the new BE is not as easy as it was in WAC,MWC or CUSA

(04-11-2012 05:34 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I will just say this. Some of you newcomers from the west have bought into the inferiority of the current Big East football members sold by the media. You will find out soon enough that going undefeated in the new BE is not as easy as it was in WAC,MWC or CUSA

Hmmm, you might be reading us wrong on that one. I think Boise State might think they could run the table, but I also think they know it will be very tough to do in the Big East.

I know the Aztecs and Fresno State (if and when they come) don't look down at any NBE teams and don't think they can step in and walk over people. We do expect to be very competitive though and right away in 2013.

(04-10-2012 09:28 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I'll be particularly interested in seeing how the league handles 18 BB teams. The easy answer is 18 games w/ one mirror.

UL-Memphis
ND-Marquette
UC-DePaul - I'd prefer SJU because of the inroads we've made into NYC (actually UL better, but "TV" seems to hate our rivalry), but I realize we've had a long series w/ the Demons.
UConn-Providence
'Nova-Temple
Georgetown-SJU
RU-SHU
USF-UCF
UH-SMU

I have a different take on the mirror games, thinking TV would rather match up Louisville with UConn, since they are the two "biggest dogs on the block" so to speak. This would also avoid a complete reorganization of the mirror games if Louisville really does end up leaving for the Big 12 as UMass could slide seamlessly into their spot.

UConn vs. Louisville
Providence vs. St. John's
Seton Hall vs. Rutgers (or Villanova)
Villanova vs. Temple (or Seton Hall)
Georgetown vs. Notre Dame
Memphis vs. Cincinnati
DePaul vs. Marquette
South Florida vs. Central Florida
Houston vs. Southern Methodist

Villanova might not want a mirror game against Temple, so we could end up with two New Jersey vs. Philadelphia rivalries instead, and Notre Dame will prefer an East Coast opponent. The others line-up fairly naturally. I see no reason to do weird things like Cincinnati vs. DePaul when both teams already have more "historic" rivals here.