I think its funny that a UAB fan, that lost to Tulane, is flaming the Big East. Wow. If your calling programs like Syracuse, West Virginia, Pitt mid majors then your crazy. What does that make UAB then?

"agree L...but C-USA has good potential...remember...when the realignment happend most said we were gonna end up like the Sun Belt conference...but C-USA is still a good conference...WAC, Sun Belt, MAC...we're still above them...and i would say we are on par with the Mount Goat Conference"


-- I think CUSA did a good job of making a geographicly friendly conference, and preparing for a possible future BE raid at the same time

-- Although I do feel sorry for schools like ECU and Marshall because they are just so far away from the rest of the league

-- I think the next think you guys need to do is come up with a new name...CUSA is the worst conference name and it doesn't really apply anymore since all of your teams are in the south/south west.....I wouldn't mind it if you guys starting using the SWC name again.....that would be awesome


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CardzFan268 Wrote:I think its funny that a UAB fan, that lost to Tulane, is flaming the Big East. Wow. If your calling programs like Syracuse, West Virginia, Pitt mid majors then your crazy. What does that make UAB then?

I find it funny that you only named three teams. So what does that make the rest of teams in the NBE you didn't name? Answer that then I tell you what I think UAB is. But I will tell you this, at least UAB doesn't claim to be something they're not.

Mid-major football is what the current BE is playing at the moment and will continue to play until you prove it otherwise.

Take that for what it's worth.

Quote:You're a mid-major with a BCS ticket.

How thick are you? Why don't you bitter left behinds use the SMACK board to spew garbage like this?

Quote:Mid-major football is what the current BE is playing at the moment and will continue to play until you prove it otherwise.

Well woopdee do I guess we'll just have to suffer through sending our champ to the Orange/Fiesta/Sugar/Rose Bowl while collecting that 15 million dollar check. Life as a mid-major is so cruel. :crying:

nflsucks Wrote:

Quote:You're a mid-major with a BCS ticket.

How thick are you? Why don't you bitter left behinds use the SMACK board to spew garbage like this?

Quote:Mid-major football is what the current BE is playing at the moment and will continue to play until you prove it otherwise.

Well woopdee do I guess we'll just have to suffer through sending our champ to the Orange/Fiesta/Sugar/Rose Bowl while collecting that 15 million dollar check. Life as a mid-major is so cruel. :crying:

I'm pretty thick. I workout quite a bit. But I don't wear muscle shirts. :)

If you think the BE is playing BCS level football then I suggest you get help NFL.

And it's a crime that a mid-major fell into the BCS luxuries like Anna Nicole fell into her riches. I don't hate you one bit for that.

The NBE is like cubic zirconia. You think it's real but it really isn't.

Quote:If you think the BE is playing BCS level football then I suggest you get help NFL.

I don't expect the league to be playing at the same level as all these established 10+ team BCS conferences when we just lost our top two programs. Rebuilding takes time, and I think it's fair to give the league time as a BCS member to rebuild instead of writing it off for one bad year. Heck, if we did that, the ACC and PAC 10 wouldn't be in the BCS anymore either.

We have to meet the same requirements as every other conference, and if we don't, you can come here and whine all you'd like and I won't argue. Until then, I think most on here would appreciate you taking your garbage to the designated place.

Quote:The NBE is like cubic zirconia. You think it's real but it really isn't.

CUSA is like one of those rings you get out of the vending machine things for a quarter. Chew on that muscle man.

Quote:I don't hate you one bit for that.

Your celebration after WVU lost to VT leads me to believe that you are a teensy weensy bit bitter.

Depends on what your objective is. Rebuilding means getting the most out of the programs you have. Building a good solid competitive league is realistic, competing with the SEC or Big 12 is not.

Quote:Building a good solid competitive league is realistic, competing with the SEC or Big 12 is not.

Agreed, an 8 team league will never be able to match the depth and success of the SEC or Big 12. The goal for this league should be quite simple, maintain an average ranking of 12th in the BCS indefinitely (or whatever the new requirements for the BCS are). I don't think that is unattainable.

Its doable but it will be close. The other problem long term are programs like Utah who are clearly out preforming you. If it continues to happen they'll make changes no matter what the rules are now.

If WE make the requirements and THEY make the requirements, then it looks like the obvious solution would be that we both get BCS bids, not neither, or MWC but not the Big East. But none of the mid-major conferences have had sustained success in meeting the requirements. Marshall did it with the MAC one year, Miami Ohio did it in the MAC one year, Tulane did it with CUSA, Utah is doing it with the MWC, but none of those conferences have had long term success in meeting the BCS requirements.

Quote:Its doable but it will be close.

This year, yeah. Long term, we'll just have to wait and see.

The real key for the NBE is Syracuse and Pitt. For this league to maintain its position the pressure is on those two schools. West Va and Louisville are fine and show no signs of a big fall off BUT if Syracuse and Pitt come back the NBE will be fine, if they do not you will eventually lose the spot and it will become an at large spot.

pirates4life Wrote:What the hell are you smoking? Seriously think about going to rehab the first step is admitting you have a problem. SEC is the best football conference in America, ACC and Big 10 are close for 2nd and 3rd and the PAC 10 is up there and the Big East isnt better than the Big 12. The N-Big East is the worst BCS conference in America. Accept that fact.

This is fom a discussion we had on the topic on one of Louisvilles boards:

West Virginia defeated a Maryland team that knocked off Florida State yesterday. Miami fell against a team that we defeated 34-0 on the same field. If not for about a dozen plays breaking the way of the Canes in the second half at the Orange Bowl we come out of there with a win. The reason we came out of the Orange Bowl with some respect is because most realized that UM was extremely lucky to pull it out and won a fluke basically. The New Big East is just as competitive as the ACC is starting next season imo.

My point is the pundits have been running down the Big East/New Big East on the assumption that the NBE wouldn't have a single team that could be competitive in a conference like the ACC or SEC. Based on what we've seen thus far into the season I call BS on that notion. If the ACC deserves an autobid because of their teams at the top then by Gawd the NBE deserves one.

As of today, the POLLS back me up on that. There is NO ACC team in the top 10 of the AP, and only one (Miami) just BARELY made the the Coach's poll at #10. And with UL and WVU only a COUPLE of spots behind these top ACC teams, and with both of UL's and WVU's performances against the ACC teams they've played, how in the WORLD can ANY so-called "college football pundit" every AGAIN sit there and with a straight face and clear concious say that the ACC deserves an automatic BCS bid while they BE does NOT?

The ACC and BE (at least in the new BE configuration anyway), appear to be almost dead even in the power poll rankings, with the ACC only slightly ahead.

HOWEVER, let's assume, like many of my wrong-thinking UL compadre's, that the ACC is a much better conference than the NBE. Today, right now, the NBE vs ACC head to head matchup stands with the NBE having a 4-5 record. And that is with UL and WVU playing AT Miami and VPI respectively. SU came extremely close to knocking off FSU in the Carrier Dome, and the "supposedly" weaker UConn beat Duke. Now I ask you, with UL, WVU, SU and UConn, which conference has the bigger potential UPSIDE to it? The NBE or the ACC? EVERYONE knows that the NBE has a lot of growing to do. But when the existing and new BE members ALREADY play THE top teams in the ACC in very tight and competitive games, and in mostly hostile environments, how can anyone say that the ACC is a "better" conference than the BE? At best you can that the ACC, right now, has the edge. Will it be that way in 5, or even 2 years? I don't think so. I very much suspect that once the NBE gets its feet under it, that in head to head matchup's the NBE will beat the ACC (even the top ACC teams) on an even basis, (meaning a .500 record).


(this is a compilation of that thread)

And let me add one more thing, until NCUSA powers UAB and Memphis can avoid losing to the likes of bottom ten programs like Tulane and a down UC squad by 6 touchdowns you have nothing to complain about as far as the Big East and the BCS is concerned.

The ACC has a much bigger upside. It is about like comparing the MWC to the Pac10. Miami, Fla State and Va tech are glitz teams for the national media. Nobody in the NBE compares to any of them in terms of national clout nor will they for the forseeable future.
The national media is critical of the NBE because a two team league will have a difficult time holding its own. If Syracuse and Pitt don't come back to a consistent national level the league cannot compete at the gighest level. The other 4 teams won't make it.

Quote:The national media is critical of the NBE because a two team league will have a difficult time holding its own.

The ACC got by for years having just FSU. As long as that one (or two) team is good, the league won't have a problem 'holding its own.'

Quote:nor will they for the forseeable future.

I don't know about that. WVU and Louisville are on the verge of really exploding. I mean, we aren't Rice or SMU, but I think we'll manage.

Exploding to where? Can we expect their programs to rival Oklahoma and USC? You can't be a two team league unless both are top 5 programs. To say that is going to happen is simply speculation. Every positive comment on this board is usually based on what someone HOPES happens. The MWC and CUSA will both produce one or two top 25 teams most years. To hold an advantage you are going to have to have four solid programs which are ranked 2 out of 3 years. UCONN and Rutgers won't cut it.

nflsucks Wrote:I mean, we aren't Rice or SMU, but I think we'll manage.

CLASSIC.

You got that right, you are not Rice or SMU abut, who knows, if you keep working hard you might be some day.

TopCoog Wrote:You got that right, you are not Rice or SMU abut, who knows, if you keep working hard you might be some day.

The new standard of excellence. :rolleyes:

well, lets see bearcat...one has a national championship in football. Both have played in high profile tier one bowls and won and both are light years ahead of anything in the NBE in terms of academics. I would be a little more respectful, wouldn't you say? By the way, congrats on your football season here lately.