With signing day beginning 4/11 and the championship ending tonight, you would think we would start hearing about new hirings around the country pretty soon.

The turnaround for the Ohio head coaching position was seemingly overnight.

(03-14-2012 08:43 AM)slappywhite Wrote:  fired? you dont say...

the thing to watch here is if murray puts his hat in the ring. samford has a young team and its not a bad place to be. with a national search, they will get some good candidates. if murray is interested, he will be interviewed. then it comes down to hiring an "up and coming" or a "tried and true"...

with all due respect 88, murray has absolutely nothing keeping him here.

it has legs according to the article comments...

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/...ach_1.html

Apparently he does.

If Bartow was ever going to be the coach at Samford, and I never thought he was going to be, then he would have been hired before the Final Four.

Guys, I can smell an East Tennessee rumor from a mile away. Here they are-

A- They usually are full of wishful thinking. In this case, we don't like the coach and we want him gone.

B- In this case the rumor has legs because the feeling is "Bartow- he's from Alabama, knows the AD at Samford- okay, put two and two together . . ." The fact that Samford has always been a football school and would likely want a younger coach for less money is forgotten. Hey, if Samford wanted a veteran mid-major coach, they wouldn't have fired the one they had for 15 years.

C- Something is added on. In this case, Jimmy Tillette's health. Of course, if his health was really that bad he wouldn't have come back to coaching after he had collapsed or something, but we forget that little thing.

In other places, when the fans want the coach to leave the boosters buy out his contract and a new one comes into place.

Unfortunately here, we just make stuff up and hope it sticks.

So where's that money going to come from to go buy out his contract? I know we have a lot of trees around here....

In other words, ETSU isn't Kentucky, where they bought out Gillespie for somewhere around $6 mill when the economy crashed. Oh I know, I'm thinking 'small' because I just said ETSU isn't Kentucky who just won national title #8. Dammit, if we had football, we would have a basketball national title, correct?

Regardless, ETSU athletics isn't in a situation to buy out contracts of their highest paid coach, nor was it when football was here.

Bartow & Martin Newton (Samford AD) ARE good friends. IF Samford is a football school, they have a lot of fixing to do (25-30 over the past 5 seasons). Maybe they should hire Paul Hamilton. After all, I-AA needs mediocre football teams too, right?

Why hasn't Samford hired their basketball coach yet if they surely would have hired Bartow before the Final Four???

(04-05-2012 10:27 AM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  So where's that money going to come from to go buy out his contract? I know we have a lot of trees around here....

In other words, ETSU isn't Kentucky, where they bought out Gillespie for somewhere around $6 mill when the economy crashed. Oh I know, I'm thinking 'small' because I just said ETSU isn't Kentucky who just won national title #8. Dammit, if we had football, we would have a basketball national title, correct?

Regardless, ETSU athletics isn't in a situation to buy out contracts of their highest paid coach, nor was it when football was here.

Bartow & Martin Newton (Samford AD) ARE good friends. IF Samford is a football school, they have a lot of fixing to do (25-30 over the past 5 seasons). Maybe they should hire Paul Hamilton. After all, I-AA needs mediocre football teams too, right?

Why hasn't Samford hired their basketball coach yet if they surely would have hired Bartow before the Final Four???

Samford is also where Bobby Bowden and Chan Gailey came from. The SoCon didn't take them in because of their tiddlywinks team. Just because the Chicago Bears haven't won the Super Bowl in awhile doesn't mean they aren't something of an iconic franchise.

You're grasping at straws.

If what we were told on here about Bartow and his affiliation with Newton or whoever was correct, then as soon as Tillette was gone, they would have quickly hired Bartow.

But they didn't, and I can only assume they went to the Final Four like every other team in need of a coach at this stage would to look at the high profile, young and and coming coaches.

I know how the game is played and how it works, Go. You don't.

Don't hate me because I'm accurate.

(04-01-2012 06:36 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  You spelled Sh*ttsburgh wrong.

And Rod says I'm predictable.

Say, Fan1. That guy Ron Paul you want to be President. Where's he from? Where was he born again? Where did he go to school?

Seems strange you'd support someone who was raised in such a locale.

But I digress.

(04-01-2012 10:28 PM)abuc90 Wrote:  

(04-01-2012 04:54 PM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  My hatred for the area comes from living here and comparing it to other places.

Why spend so much time posting on a message board that soley focuses on a place you have "hatred" for?

Well, with all the talk of stuff going on in Nashville, Knoxville, and other locales I'm not sure this place solely focues on the Tri-Cities, but regardless.

This is a fair question that deserves a fair answer.

To make a long story short, I started posting many years ago in order to promote a column I wrote for a local newspaper. I enjoyed the give and take, and in large part still do.

I've often said I was the original poster and I was the one who got this whole thing started. And that's true. Trust me, other schools of ETSU's size do not have such a vibrant message board posting community. There are plenty of factors for that, but regardless.

I'm spending less and less time on here frankly because I'm sick of all the lies spread about me on here and such. I'm the lightning rod, I realize that. I'll always be the lightning rod.

I also happen to be the guy who has the answers, and that's something that people around here don't want to accept.

One cannot spend as much time in a community as I have in the Tri-Cities, even if he doesn't care for it, and not want to make it better.

(04-05-2012 10:37 AM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  

(04-05-2012 10:27 AM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  So where's that money going to come from to go buy out his contract? I know we have a lot of trees around here....

In other words, ETSU isn't Kentucky, where they bought out Gillespie for somewhere around $6 mill when the economy crashed. Oh I know, I'm thinking 'small' because I just said ETSU isn't Kentucky who just won national title #8. Dammit, if we had football, we would have a basketball national title, correct?

Regardless, ETSU athletics isn't in a situation to buy out contracts of their highest paid coach, nor was it when football was here.

Bartow & Martin Newton (Samford AD) ARE good friends. IF Samford is a football school, they have a lot of fixing to do (25-30 over the past 5 seasons). Maybe they should hire Paul Hamilton. After all, I-AA needs mediocre football teams too, right?

Why hasn't Samford hired their basketball coach yet if they surely would have hired Bartow before the Final Four???

Samford is also where Bobby Bowden and Chan Gailey came from. The SoCon didn't take them in because of their tiddlywinks team. Just because the Chicago Bears haven't won the Super Bowl in awhile doesn't mean they aren't something of an iconic franchise.

You're grasping at straws.

If what we were told on here about Bartow and his affiliation with Newton or whoever was correct, then as soon as Tillette was gone, they would have quickly hired Bartow.

But they didn't, and I can only assume they went to the Final Four like every other team in need of a coach at this stage would to look at the high profile, young and and coming coaches.

I know how the game is played and how it works, Go. You don't.

Don't hate me because I'm accurate.

You compared Samford and the Bears? C'mon Pitt, how dumb do you think people are? Sure Bobby Bowden was at Samford. He left 50 years ago. The University of Chicago was a founding Big Ten school, doesn't mean squat today. Chan Gailey was there for a year in the middle of his career as a stop gap job after being in the World League of American football and before he jumped back to the NFL. Artis Gilmore took JU to a national championship game, but no one is calling them an iconic program.

The Bartow//Newton connection is absolutely a fact. For whatever reason either Samford didn't want Bartow or vice versa.

They hired an Indiana assistant for those interested.

http://www.samfordsports.com/sports/m-ba...12aab.html

Okay Go. You're right. Samford is a basketball school.

Doesn't make it true, but I do so much want to make you happy.

(04-05-2012 10:37 AM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  

(04-05-2012 10:27 AM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  So where's that money going to come from to go buy out his contract? I know we have a lot of trees around here....

In other words, ETSU isn't Kentucky, where they bought out Gillespie for somewhere around $6 mill when the economy crashed. Oh I know, I'm thinking 'small' because I just said ETSU isn't Kentucky who just won national title #8. Dammit, if we had football, we would have a basketball national title, correct?

Regardless, ETSU athletics isn't in a situation to buy out contracts of their highest paid coach, nor was it when football was here.

Bartow & Martin Newton (Samford AD) ARE good friends. IF Samford is a football school, they have a lot of fixing to do (25-30 over the past 5 seasons). Maybe they should hire Paul Hamilton. After all, I-AA needs mediocre football teams too, right?

Why hasn't Samford hired their basketball coach yet if they surely would have hired Bartow before the Final Four???

Samford is also where Bobby Bowden and Chan Gailey came from. The SoCon didn't take them in because of their tiddlywinks team. Just because the Chicago Bears haven't won the Super Bowl in awhile doesn't mean they aren't something of an iconic franchise.

You're grasping at straws.

If what we were told on here about Bartow and his affiliation with Newton or whoever was correct, then as soon as Tillette was gone, they would have quickly hired Bartow.

But they didn't, and I can only assume they went to the Final Four like every other team in need of a coach at this stage would to look at the high profile, young and and coming coaches.

I know how the game is played and how it works, Go. You don't.

Don't hate me because I'm accurate.

Chan Gailey is from Americus GA, played at the Univ of Florida and coached one season at Samford

(04-05-2012 01:47 PM)Courtside Wrote:  

(04-05-2012 10:37 AM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  Samford is also where Bobby Bowden and Chan Gailey came from.

Don't hate me because I'm accurate.

Chan Gailey is from Americus GA, played at the Univ of Florida and coached one season at Samford

Have I missed something.. except for a handfull of posts here...I haven't seen or heard anything about ETSU wanting to buy out MB's contract...
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Nobody is going to buy out his contract. Our only hope is for him to head elsewhere.

The fact is, even if you fire Bartow or buy out his contract, and who are you going to get? The guy's winning percentage is the highest for any coach in ETSU history. Even Pitt brought that up when he was 'supporting' Bartow. So if you get rid of a guy with that kind of a winning percentage within the history of ETSU basketball, who would want to come here? Oh I know, I've heard all of the drivel about how the ASun sucks and this helped his record dramatically. Well, its RPI was #16 this year, and for the past 3 years I believe it's been solid. Without much else to go on to compare conferences, I'm not sure if you canned Bartow right now you're going to get a grand step up.

I'm really not sure how accurate you are though, Pitt. I guess you can tell us how accurate you are, but then it gets into alternative realities. Courtside just made a very important point showing your error. You didn't even approach the data I posted with Samford's losing football record the last 5 years, which I'm not sure that makes it a "football" school. Then again, maybe a mediocre football program is all you strive for.

And how in the hell are you making the Tri Cities better? The fact is you left and the climate improved.

Heeee's baaack.....the Pitt-pout must be over....again.

(04-05-2012 03:26 PM)bucfan1968 Wrote:  Have I missed something.. except for a handfull of posts here...I haven't seen or heard anything about ETSU wanting to buy out MB's contract...
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Exactly.

Yep Courtside. Went directly from Samford to the offensive coordinator of the Steelers (I remember writing that story up for KDKA, in fact. None of us knew Samford was "the Bulldogs").

So FACT- Chan Gailey's first head coaching job was at Samford. How you can deny that, I don't know. He is, in fact, from there.

I'm curious here. I was born in Rhode Island but family moved away as soon as their schooling at Brown was over- I was less than two years old at the time. Does this mean that I'm not from Rhode Island? And if so, how do you explain that when I needed a copy of my birth certificate a couple of years ago I had to send $20 to Providence?

I would say that it is a rarity to be among such true fools, but I am also from Johnson City, soooooooooo . . . .

FACT- The SoCon went after Samford because of its traditional status as a football school. It wasn't for basketball, tiddlywinks, or anything else.

FACT- Not only are Bobby Bowden and Chan Gailey FROM Samford, but so are Jimbo Fisher and Terry Bowden.

FACT- Samford is currently coached by Pat Sullivan, Heisman Trophy Winner 1971 and a guy who did some nice things at TCU previously.

FACT- ETSU could probably stand to learn something from Samford, as they were without football from 1973 to 1984 and while I wouldn't say they have been outstanding since then they've made the Division I-AA playoffs, fielded respectable teams, and produced some fine coaches.

Yep. Been a bad five year stretch for them. As it has been for the Vols.

I guess Tennessee is not a football school, either.