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All the Louisville fans like to complain about how scewed up scheduling has been in C-USA. I don't necessarily disagree with them. However, this is even screwier. You play some teams twice and don't play some teams at all. I'll be very surprised if there isn't a split in less than 4 years. 16 teams is just too damn many for one league. C-USA proved that.



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Yeah, it's stupid alright. It ceases to become a conference when you don't play everyone at least once.

I'm all for a split. We'll see... 03-confused
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I don't know what the big deal would be to go to 18 games and play everyone at least once and still have the three mirror games.
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The point of the mirrior games is to have the lot of attractive TV games....I full expect schools like UC and Louisville will be playing the likes of UConn, SU or ND as mirrior games for TV purposes....and unfortunatly I expect a low profile school like West Virginia will be stuck playing USF, Rutgers etc in its mirrior games because ot its small TV market


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LocalYokel888 Wrote:I don't know what the big deal would be to go to 18 games and play everyone at least once and still have the three mirror games.
the big deal would be that the league teams having potentially 24 more loses beating up each other rather than playing something OOC and all getting 3 wins. It may also mean more limits to OOC opponents each team can pick for its schedule. Does one play more mediocre teams outside to make sure it can get to the desired number of wins in the end? Or play an insanely tough schedule hoping that your team would be "battle-tested" and be rewarded by the selection committee for doing so? Also, some seem to think the 18-game schedule will hurt the chances of the "bubble teams" getting selected come March.

I just don't understand why we can't play everyone once while having one home-and-home rivalry intact, which by the way, is exactly what the women's side is doing. 03-confused
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Jackson1011 Wrote:The point of the mirrior games is to have the lot of attractive TV games....I full expect schools like UC and Louisville will be playing the likes of UConn, SU or ND as mirrior games for TV purposes....and unfortunatly I expect a low profile school like West Virginia will be stuck playing USF, Rutgers etc in its mirrior games because ot its small TV market


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This is a retarded concession to the bball schools. We might as well go with a divisional format in which all football members play round-robin home and homes and the basketball only members do the same with a few crossover games like the SEC East and West. A split cannot happen soon enough imo.
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L-yes Wrote:A split cannot happen soon enough imo.
I concur. :D
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The "All-Sports" schools are just biding their time. I heard some rumros around the time of expansion that one of the main reasons the b-ball schools refused to split was because they wanted to build back up their basketball programs since they were on a down period. Give them a few years to build them back up. They have some strong teams right now that would be in the b-ball league and players on the national scene, Marquette, Providence, Dayton, St. Joseph's, Xavier, and Depaul. Go add another powerful program like Butler or Creighton. The b-ball schools don't need to lean on the football programs.
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Cat's_Claw Wrote:The "All-Sports" schools are just biding their time. I heard some rumros around the time of expansion that one of the main reasons the b-ball schools refused to split was because they wanted to build back up their basketball programs since they were on a down period. Give them a few years to build them back up. They have some strong teams right now that would be in the b-ball league and players on the national scene, Marquette, Providence, Dayton, St. Joseph's, Xavier, and Depaul. Go add another powerful program like Butler or Creighton. The b-ball schools don't need to lean on the football programs.
The Big East agreed to stay together for at least 5 years once the 'NBE' begins. After that, the 1-A football would be allowed split away from the Big East Bball schools with no exit fees and would be allowed to claim their NCAA units (money earned from teams in the tourney).

This would also allow both sides an auto-bid to the big dance as both sides would have had enough teams that were together for 5 years or more.

Now, with all that said, once the 2010/2011 season rolls around, it doesn't automatically mean there will be a split, it just means an amicable parting of the ways can occur with no legal action and no bitterness on either side.

My personal opinion though is that there will be a split. The football schools want out in the worst way. All the hoops power is on the all-sport/football side anyway.

The football schools will then add anywhere from 1 to 4 teams, depending on what the football landscape is at that time.
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Quote:My personal opinion though is that there will be a split. The football schools want out in the worst way. All the hoops power is on the all-sport/football side anyway.

The football schools will then add anywhere from 1 to 4 teams, depending on what the football landscape is at that time.


-- I completly agree......the only question now is who are going to be the team/teams added

-- Also....if the new league is to be formed after the 2010 season.....I think we should know something a bit in advance....I think it would take a least a year to get the scheduling down......especially for the school who is not currently apart of BE football


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When the 16 schools WAC split the eight schools pick up a new name, Mountain West. It took MWC a few years for people to be aware of their existence. If the BE intense to split then we have to decide it now who get the “Big East
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[quote]When the 16 schools WAC split the eight schools pick up a new name, Mountain West. It took MWC a few years for people to be aware of their existence. If the BE intense to split then we have to decide it now who get the “Big East
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It’s time to promote the name, EAC football. Let the lawyer dot the ‘i’ and cross the ‘t’.
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Quote:It’s time to promote the name, EAC football. Let the lawyer dot the ‘i’ and cross the ‘t’.


--- So#1...I think that is a great idea....but would it be possible to do it?? We are still officially in the BE....I'm not sure if it could be done



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Remember BEFC exist as separate entity with there own by-law. We can have a separate charter like before but instead of calling it “BEFC
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