right yet again. Looks like Pitt is going to be matched up with Utah.
Look for this to be done every year for the short stay the NBE has with an auto bid. NBE vs non BCS team....you heard it hear first months ago.

Oh my God he is back out of hiding. BTW it all comes down to who is playing in the BCS Title game. Some years it will be BE vs. At Large, some years it will be BE vs. BCS Conference Champ.

Maize...first there will only be a couple of years until people can't take any more. If you are honest you know that Utah is going to flog Pitt. The Big East will never play any team except the non auto bid team. The BCS is saying in so many words that they are stuck with these teams and will try to reduce the damage to only one bowl at a time. Just makes sense.

We heard this argument when a UNRANKED Stanford team went to the Rose Bowl. We heard this argument when a 21st ranked Purdue team went to the Rose Bowl. We heard this argument when a 4 loss Florida State team went to the Sugar Bowl.

What will happen if a 4 loss Colorado team wins the Big 12. I tell you what will happen, NOTHING. There will be some bitching and moaning but nothing will come out of it.

Like the BCS Chairman said yesterday, this is nothing new and has happened before and will happen again.

so what? Does it really matter?

so maize, since those crummy teams got to go you are saying that is an excuse for the Big East to send a crummy team as well. What kind of logic is that.....I think you spell it S P I N

TopCoog Wrote:so maize, since those crummy teams got to go you are saying that is an excuse for the Big East to send a crummy team as well. What kind of logic is that.....I think you spell it S P I N

Its called "pretty damn solid" logic. Go crawl back under your rock you boob.

You are an idiot. Every BCS bowl has a chance to pick in certain order who they want. For this year, it just happens to be PITT vs. UTAH, whats the big freaking deal? PITT playing a 11-0 UTAH team is no shame. I am sure no one will give PITT a chance, but we will see after the game.

PITT has Palko. As long as that guy is playing, PITT has a chance. This QB Is just damn good.

L-yes Wrote:

TopCoog Wrote:so maize, since those crummy teams got to go you are saying that is an excuse for the Big East to send a crummy team as well. What kind of logic is that.....I think you spell it S P I N

Its called "pretty damn solid" logic. Go crawl back under your rock you boob.

It is the SAME LOGIC that the BCS Chairman used during his teleconference yesterday. No spin zone.

TopCoog Wrote:so maize, since those crummy teams got to go you are saying that is an excuse for the Big East to send a crummy team as well. What kind of logic is that.....I think you spell it S P I N

This is BCS Chairman Kevin Weiberg on the Big East. He said the same as I did in this post. But you call it spin. AHAHAHA

Kevin Weiberg: Well, I really don't think so. My understanding is that obviously the commitment is in place to continue forward through next year, and then our process was that we were going to do two years into a new structure before there would be an evaluation of conference automatic qualification.

I think it's also important to say that it's not unusual for the BCS system to have a team from a conference playing the system that is ranked between 10 and 20. That's occurred virtually every year in the system, in some fashion. In fact, in 1999, I think we had a Stanford team that in the Rose Bowl that was not rated. So, I think you have to be careful about singling out any conference on a single-year basis and that's why, as we've thought about the issue of conference champions going forward, we're trying to consider it in terms of a multi-year look, as opposed to a single-year look.

watch what they do, not what they say. When this league continues to preform poorly, as they are doing now, things will change quickly. No way the NBE stays in four years.
It was even mentioned this past weekend on Game Day. being the butt of all the jokes is not helpful. the TV ratings for Pitt will be terrible.

Don't hate the BE, Coog. Hate the system

Are you a psychic? The UTAH vs. PITT will be pitful? It might, it might not, but we wont know until that day right?

BE will retain its BCS bid as long as there is a BCS. No way in hell BCS cuts off the Northeast for football. All the advertising dollars, where do you think they come from? Majority of it comes from the Northeast. The almight dollar rules everything with the BCS.

Most people in the Northeast would rather see UCONN vs. CUSE than Texas vs. OU. Get used to it, thats reality. People want to watch something they can relate to.

Did you also forget the fact the UL's ranking this year will count against NBE's ranking? Also there are so many other examples of unranked BCS teams going to the BCS bowl, why would PITT be any different? PITT will be ranked in the teens after they win this SAT. ESPN is biased against the BE because they are in arbitration. Last time i looked, the B10 ad ACC aren't exactly the powerhouses everyone said they are. either.

SF Huskey...right...thats why your TV contract is in arbitration. They don't think your games are worth that much. the northeast is an NFL dominated region and the Big East will simply lack marquee programs. Check the ratings after the Pitt-Utah game...it will be by far the weakest draw. This simply will not be allowed to continue.

Personally I prefer that the Big East leaves ESPN anyways. Tell the arbitrator to just terminate the contract after this year! Shop around the football and basketball contracts, and go to the highest bidder, which right now could very well end up being Fox Sports. As a UC fan I would be thrilled to see Fox Sports get our package for football and basketball games... no more ACC loving during every game aired...

You might get the Fox Sports cable channel, you won't get Big Fox.
They have too many other choices if they wanted into college football on a weekly basis. But yes, Fox cable probably could happen.

I'd imagine special games (if BE ever has a football conf. championship game, Big time BE basketball, basketball tourney finals, etc) could go on the public airwaves fox channel, but I would not be bothered by them showing a lot of games on the different Fox Sports affiliates (like the B12 is now).

ya'll, don't waste your breath. The line of NCUSA folks waiting for the demise of the NBE is too long to argue with every one of them. Not sure why they care, since even if the NBE lost its bid, that wouldn't help their sorry conference. {shrug}. I'll take the BCS Chairman's word over random, meaningles babble on an internet forum any day.

Let the trolls think what they want - we are at the table, now it is up to us to stay there. We will.

wvucrazed Wrote:ya'll, don't waste your breath. The line of NCUSA folks waiting for the demise of the NBE is too long to argue with every one of them. Not sure why they care, since even if the NBE lost its bid, that wouldn't help their sorry conference. {shrug}. I'll take the BCS Chairman's word over random, meaningles babble on an internet forum any day.

Let the trolls think what they want - we are at the table, now it is up to us to stay there. We will.

It's like arguing with a brickwall. What the general media says means nothing. Who cares if they rip the conference, it's not going to change anything. And then they'll ride the bandwagon when the Big East does better next year. Or this year. If Pitt beats Utah in the Fiesta Bowl, and personally I think they will, they're still my surprise team of the year, then Pitt would be ranked in the Top 12, possible 10 when the season ends. As long as Pitt beats South Florida next week they'll be knocking on the door of the Top 15 in the AP and coaches poll going into the BCS bowl. And if they beat a Top 6 team like Utah, they would shoot them into the Top 10, 12 at worse. And with a young team like that Pitt and Louisville could be preseason Top 10 or 15 teams. I don't know why people assume that Utah will destroy Pitt. Pitt has a very good defense and their offense is getting much better. And they're physical, something Utah hasn't had to deal with this year.

Utah is matched against Pitt because the bowl that normally host the Big East champion is the national championship this year. Therefore putting the Big East (and ACC champ) into the at large pool. Were Auburn ahead of Oklahoma in the BCS or if the Big 12 leader were not in the national title hunt, the Fiesta would host the B12 champ, thus putting Oklahoma vs. Utah hypothetically and Pitt in the Sugar against Miami/Virginia Tech.

This is just the Fiesta getting 'stuck' with the Big East champ, I assure you there were no higher ups demanding the Big East face the mid-major school TopCoog. Believe me, the Fiesta would not willingly take this matchup if they could get a more attractive one.

Nice try though.