RC was on local radio this morning and mentioned there is talk of the Big East FB Championship Game being played annually in Yankee Stadium.

Help out and east coast newb here, who is RC?

Also, not sure I'm a big fan of playing the league's marquee game at a baseball field.

(02-29-2012 11:21 AM)BroncoFan78 Wrote:  Help out and east coast newb here, who is RC?

Also, not sure I'm a big fan of playing the league's marquee game at a baseball field.

Presumably he's referencing R.C. Johnson, Memphis' soon to be retired AD. And yeah, the BE leadership has been talking about Yankee Stadium for a while. They haven't learned from the ACC's failures while the superbly run Pac-12 went with home-field advantage, which has also worked well for CUSA. I guess the Yankees are willing to put a bunch of money behind it, but I don't really see the value in a half-empty championship game when it will be televised wherever it is played.

If they go through with that idea.....it will fail and they will adjust.

Memphis and the Liberty Bowl would make more sense than Yankee Stadium. I think they think it is the same as the Tourney and MSG.

(02-29-2012 11:24 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(02-29-2012 11:21 AM)BroncoFan78 Wrote:  Help out and east coast newb here, who is RC?

Also, not sure I'm a big fan of playing the league's marquee game at a baseball field.

Presumably he's referencing R.C. Johnson, Memphis' soon to be retired AD. And yeah, the BE leadership has been talking about Yankee Stadium for a while. They haven't learned from the ACC's failures while the superbly run Pac-12 went with home-field advantage, which has also worked well for CUSA. I guess the Yankees are willing to put a bunch of money behind it, but I don't really see the value in a half-empty championship game when it will be televised wherever it is played.

If Cuse Pitt and WVU were still in the league it would make sense. Now though I'm for highest seed home field. Though I could be down for alternating between NYC and Dallas every year.

NOT! !!!!!!!!!!!! NYC in the winter? They don't even have a school in this thingthing

I have no clue why the Big East doesn't just adopt the PAC-12's idea. I don't get why they are forcing the game to be played in NYC when this will now be a coast-to-coast conference.

Considering the ACC CCG attendance was up only slightly because of the move to Charlotte, the B1G having to pay people to go to Indy, and the SEC attendance was down for Atlanta, I'd have to agree that the home-field CCG format works better for attendance than the neutral site CCG. With a nationwide conference, I would think that putting the game at home field would be the most rational locale, but I get why the BE wants it at Yankee Stadium. They want the game to have the same prestige as having the BBall tournament at MSG. I would feel better about it if the game were at Giants Stadium rather than the Bronx, but there's definitely a BE-NYY connection they are willing to utilize.

(02-29-2012 11:39 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Considering the ACC CCG attendance was up only slightly because of the move to Charlotte, the B1G having to pay people to go to Indy, and the SEC attendance was down for Atlanta, I'd have to agree that the home-field CCG format works better for attendance than the neutral site CCG. With a nationwide conference, I would think that putting the game at home field would be the most rational locale, but I get why the BE wants it at Yankee Stadium. They want the game to have the same prestige as having the BBall tournament at MSG. I would feel better about it if the game were at Giants Stadium rather than the Bronx, but there's definitely a BE-NYY connection they are willing to utilize.

But in all honesty people are more willing to travel to NYC than Indy, Atl or Charolette. Especially before Xmas. Also you have four teams from the eastern division in driving distance to the stadium.

(02-29-2012 11:38 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  I have no clue why the Big East doesn't just adopt the PAC-12's idea. I don't get why they are forcing the game to be played in NYC when this will now be a coast-to-coast conference.

They are...and they will...just some of their idiots don't know about it yet (and realize the Pac-12 & CUSA's version of having the best team host the game is best...especially for a conf that is spread out from Connecticut to Florida to Texas to Idaho and California).

Championship Games are not bowl games...as many times, division winners don't lock up their spot till the week before the Championship Game...and not many Big East teams have hundreds of thousands of diehard fans that could form a group of 25,000 plus that will fly 1,000-2,000 miles plus on just days notice to watch their team play.

SEC is soooo successful because most of the power teams have hundreds of thousands of fans...and most SEC teams are located within an easy drive of Atlanta.

Big East is not the SEC.

(02-29-2012 11:39 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Considering the ACC CCG attendance was up only slightly because of the move to Charlotte, the B1G having to pay people to go to Indy, and the SEC attendance was down for Atlanta, I'd have to agree that the home-field CCG format works better for attendance than the neutral site CCG. With a nationwide conference, I would think that putting the game at home field would be the most rational locale, but I get why the BE wants it at Yankee Stadium. They want the game to have the same prestige as having the BBall tournament at MSG. I would feel better about it if the game were at Giants Stadium rather than the Bronx, but there's definitely a BE-NYY connection they are willing to utilize.

ACCCG average attendance by site:

Jacksonville: 62,973
Tampa: 36,128
Charlotte: 73,027

A 10k improvement is "only slightly"?

Only the Big Ten and SEC can pull off the neutral site championship game with ease. The Big 12 was able to as well (again plenty of large fanbases over a relatively condensed footprint.) The Big East, ACC, Pac-12, Alliance should all do on-campus homes for the top seeded participant or even a rotating system between the two divisions where the Division A winner gets it one year and then the Division B winner gets it the next, rinse and repeat.

San Diego State vs UCF would draw about 10 people in Yankee Stadium. This was a great idea when Cuse, Pitt, and WVU were still around and the discussion was centered on adding Navy and Army with the possibility of either moving up Nova or going with Temple.

Unless Georgetown, Seton Hall, and St. Johns suddenly developed FBS football programs overnight and Notre Dame is taking part in the conference championship game this idea must be squashed.

(02-29-2012 12:01 PM)snowycuse Wrote:  San Diego State vs UCF would draw about 10 people in Yankee Stadium. This was a great idea when Cuse, Pitt, and WVU were still around and the discussion was centered on adding Navy and Army with the possibility of either moving up Nova or going with Temple.

Unless Georgetown, Seton Hall, and St. Johns suddenly developed FBS football programs overnight and Notre Dame is taking part in the conference championship game this idea must be squashed.

Even with those schools playing a major conference championship game in Yankee Stadium was just misguided. If you were going to tell me we were pulling in Army, Navy, Temple and TCU and otherwise staying stable, or even Army, Navy, Temple, TCU, Houston and ECU then maybe Lincoln Financial Field would work.

Yankee Stadium in December doesn't seem like such a fun trip to me. And with 9 FB teams in San Diego, Boise, Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, Orlando and Tampa (and one of those certainly in the CC game), and 4 in Philly, Annapolis, New Jersey and Connecticut, that doesn't seem all that centrally located for a FB CCG.

I say give it a try. Can't get any worse than this.

No permanent site makes sense. What if the championship game is between Boise & Louisville or Houston & Cincy? You're going to have a half-full stadium if it's in NYC. And what if it's a game between SDSU & UConn and it's held in Memphis?

A better plan is to have it in the home stadium of the school with the best record.

(02-29-2012 12:03 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Yankee Stadium in December doesn't seem like such a fun trip to me. And with 9 FB teams in San Diego, Boise, Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, Orlando and Tampa (and one of those certainly in the CC game), and 4 in Philly, Annapolis, New Jersey and Connecticut, that doesn't seem all that centrally located for a FB CCG.

I agree 3A. It sounds good at first, until you actually think about the details. Much better options available IMO.

(02-29-2012 12:06 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  No permanent site makes sense. What if the championship game is between Boise & Louisville or Houston & Cincy? You're going to have a half-full stadium if it's in NYC. And what if it's a game between SDSU & UConn and it's held in Memphis?

A better plan is to have it in the home stadium of the school with the best record.

To bad it is becoming even more doubtful that Louisville will be part of this arrangement. Wish the nBe nothing but the best, it going to be a great league even without The Ville.

Can't wait for Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, West Virginia & BYU coming into Papa John's for Football and playing Baylor, Kansas & K-State in Basketball...2014 baby.

(02-29-2012 12:09 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(02-29-2012 12:06 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  No permanent site makes sense. What if the championship game is between Boise & Louisville or Houston & Cincy? You're going to have a half-full stadium if it's in NYC. And what if it's a game between SDSU & UConn and it's held in Memphis?

A better plan is to have it in the home stadium of the school with the best record.

To bad it is becoming even more doubtful that Louisville will be part of this arrangement. Wish the nBe nothing but the best, it going to be a great league even without The Ville.

Can't wait for Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, West Virginia & BYU coming into Papa John's for Football and playing Baylor, Kansas & K-State in Basketball...2014 baby.

See the first part of your post was fine and reasonable. The second part is inviting the people who are going around here acting butthurt to attack you.