I do love the butt hurt form. It may be one of the oldest putdowns ever, but it is still pretty funny.

Here's the one we use in the military.

For those who suggest the ACC for ECU..... that will NEVER HAPPEN!

Already 4 NC schools in it so they don't want #5.

The schools outside NC don't want 5 NC schools as a voting block.


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SEC.....

We would have selling points to the SEC but I doubt the SEC would call up any non B6 schools.

(02-23-2012 09:11 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  For those who suggest the ACC for ECU..... that will NEVER HAPPEN!

Already 4 NC schools in it so they don't want #5.

The schools outside NC don't want 5 NC schools as a voting block.


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SEC.....

We would have selling points to the SEC but I doubt the SEC would call up any non B6 schools.

Have faith my friend. I do. It's the only thing we have to cling to.
SEC #16......so it is said.....and so it shall be.................maybe :ecu:

(02-23-2012 08:07 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(02-23-2012 07:29 PM)Raleighwood Pirate Wrote:  

(02-23-2012 05:35 PM)EERSFAN Wrote:  If UL leaves, I think ECU should get the call & then the BE can push for AFA or UNLV to come in with Navy for 14. I mean, did ECU burn down an Olive Garden or what?

Let me count the ways the BE doesn't like ECU

They don't like teams that sell out their home games.
They don't like teams that rank second in viewership in the state, only behind UNC.
They don't like teams that sell 33,000 season tickets a year.
They don't like teams that travel well to bowls.
They don't like teams that are football first schools.
They don't like great college game day atmosphere's.
They don't like schools that have a long rich history of success.
They don't like schools that beat BCS schools.
They don't want to steal away recruits from ACC schools.
They don't want to plant their flag in the heart of ACC country and steal some of their market share.

I believe they really have a great distaste for ECU. Marianatto has some sort of Vendetta like Transghese did. I get the impression that they thumb their noses at us. They don't think very highly of our university and what it offers. To me, it is arrogance. I got off the desire to get in the Big East boat several months ago. I have encouraged Terry Holland to avoid it at all costs just like many other ECU alums. Marianatto can't give us a direct answer as to why they don't want us. He avoids it like the plague, and just give generalities. Good luck to the new Big East and its leadership.

I guess the ACC and the SEC don't like those things either.

You are pouring the sarcasm on pretty thick. We don't benefit the ACC because they already have 4 schools in NC in the conference. The only thing we would bring are rivalry games.

The SEC has been listening and Terry Holland has been speaking to Slive. We may have a chance. They want a school from a Top 5 conference. We aren't so lucky to be one of those schools nor is any school from the Big East.

I don't care anymore. Congratulations to Marianatto for losing all of the Big Easts best and most prestigious football programs to the ACC and Big 12. Now the Big East is CUSA/MWC II.

(02-23-2012 09:15 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  

(02-23-2012 09:11 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  For those who suggest the ACC for ECU..... that will NEVER HAPPEN!

Already 4 NC schools in it so they don't want #5.

The schools outside NC don't want 5 NC schools as a voting block.


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SEC.....

We would have selling points to the SEC but I doubt the SEC would call up any non B6 schools.

Have faith my friend. I do. It's the only thing we have to cling to.
SEC #16......so it is said.....and so it shall be.................maybe :ecu:

I hope so. A lot of work has to be done to make that deal happen

I think if Air Force and BYU still are not interested in the Big East, then ECU should be the next school to get the invite (assuming that Temple is already a done deal that just hasn't been announced yet).

I must say that a majority of the Rutgers fans on here seem pretty open to ECU joining the Big East and for the most part have nothing but good things to say. Personally, I appreciate your open minds.

West Virginia and Syracuse fans are starting to act like the La Tech fans when they left the Sun Belt. All I have to say is don't burn your bridges because you never know where you could end back up.

It's a shame ecu is getting passed up again.

It's funny, but given the state of the basketball teams, USM would get in before ECU.

(02-23-2012 08:16 PM)orangefan Wrote:  Seriously, we've explained the reasons ECU hasn't been at the top of the list ad nauseum, starting with NC being oversaturated already. Having said that, the time for Holland to call Marinara and beg is now. The BE seems pretty desperate to get an 8th team for 2012. Start the call with "we'll pay whatever it takes to get out of CUSA for the 2012 season."

I think the #1 reason we've been passed over is the DMA issue, which as you said has been discussed over and over...

But I don't get the "NC is over-saturated" argument. If NC is over-saturated, how does a 5-7 non-AQ school average 50,012 fans per game?

That number would lead the nBE. Do people expect that that interest would go down if we were to enter the nBE? Surely it would go up!

(02-24-2012 07:45 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(02-23-2012 08:16 PM)orangefan Wrote:  Seriously, we've explained the reasons ECU hasn't been at the top of the list ad nauseum, starting with NC being oversaturated already. Having said that, the time for Holland to call Marinara and beg is now. The BE seems pretty desperate to get an 8th team for 2012. Start the call with "we'll pay whatever it takes to get out of CUSA for the 2012 season."

I think the #1 reason we've been passed over is the DMA issue, which as you said has been discussed over and over...

But I don't get the "NC is over-saturated" argument. If NC is over-saturated, how does a 5-7 non-AQ school average 50,012 fans per game?

That number would lead the nBE. Do people expect that that interest would go down if we were to enter the nBE? Surely it would go up!

I wonder how much of it has to do with Basketball. That is the one thing that ECU fan's can't deny hurts them. The other 2 with poor hoops- Houston(better football currently along with Market and previous history), and SMU(better market and previous history)- you can see why they were added.

I believe basketball has hurt us a lot to be totally honest. That still doesn't explain why we haven't even gotten a FB only invite.

No one doubts the turnout and support for ECU, is great, but butts in the seats at your stadium, makes ECU money, but does not make the rest of the conference members money... and as the biggest conferences have made clear -- it's all about money and like everyone else the Big East is playing catch-up.

(02-24-2012 08:56 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  I believe basketball has hurt us a lot to be totally honest. That still doesn't explain why we haven't even gotten a FB only invite.

I didn't think that ECU would have taken a FB only invite.

And, the question I have- with an ACC man in charge in Terry Holland, does he deep down want anything to do with the Big East?

(02-24-2012 08:59 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  No one doubts the turnout and support for ECU, is great, but butts in the seats at your stadium, makes ECU money, but does not make the rest of the conference members money... and as the biggest conferences have made clear -- it's all about money and like everyone else the Big East is playing catch-up.

I agree, and I believe that's why our undaunted campaign tried to point out that our TV ratings are similar to those of NCSU and UNC, just as our butts in seats are... TH is trying to show that connection, but nobody seems to be able to get past the #99 DMA.

ECU's scheduling policy is great for the fans who go to the games, but it's ultimately detrimental to longterm football success. If ECU had anything close to Boise State-like success over the past few years this wouldn't even be an issue. They'd have already been in the Big East.

(02-24-2012 08:56 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  I believe basketball has hurt us a lot to be totally honest. That still doesn't explain why we haven't even gotten a FB only invite.

Why didn't the Big East invite Ohio University, or Toledo, or Miami, OH, or Southern Miss, or Marshall, or U.A.B., or Delaware, or Villanova, or UMass or a few other schools? What separates ECU from those schools? Football attendance ok, but what else? Why isn't anyone talking about how those schools were shafted by the Big East by not being invited?

The BE had two things going on. First the BCS thing so Boise was a necessity as were the best possible western partners. For anyone else, the BE talked to television advisors and were told who offered value. ECU was not one of the schools that was in the "adds value" mix-just as the schools above were not included--all meet some criteria for BE inclusion better, some things not as good as ECU but none were invited, not just ECU.

We will never be in the Big East. Period. End of story.