I don't think anyone's arguing that Means lived all the way up to his enormous potential, but he was a solid contributor and hardly the biggest bust of all time (especially considering the turmoil that surrounded him for the better part of his college career).

(02-12-2012 10:42 AM)LA Tiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 11:18 PM)Psicosis Wrote:  Means was second team All-C-USA as a senior, so I'd hardly call him "as big a dud as there ever was."

I don't think he will go down as one of the Tigers most memorable linemen. If he had lived up to his high school hype he would have been 2nd team All-American not 2nd team C-USA and yes it was Alabama that he went to and couldn't cut the mustard down there. I don't think he started at the Uof M until his senior year.

No offense, but it sounds like you are not well informed. Means was a starter from the first time he was here. He deserves a lot of credit for putting up with all of the turmoil he had to endure through no fault of his own.

(02-12-2012 01:38 PM)oakland steve Wrote:  

(02-12-2012 10:42 AM)LA Tiger Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 11:18 PM)Psicosis Wrote:  Means was second team All-C-USA as a senior, so I'd hardly call him "as big a dud as there ever was."

I don't think he will go down as one of the Tigers most memorable linemen. If he had lived up to his high school hype he would have been 2nd team All-American not 2nd team C-USA and yes it was Alabama that he went to and couldn't cut the mustard down there. I don't think he started at the Uof M until his senior year.

Means required a double team every time he was on the field which left a linebacker free to make the play. Means was a good college player and helped our defense alot during his time here.

Means played in rotation as a defensive lineman for Bama as a true freshman. As far as not cutting the mustard at Bama, someone should check the facts instead of spouting off crap. I don't think anyone who lined up across from him would call him a dud.

I had a grad school class with Mr. Means a few years ago...

carry on

Maybe one of you old timers will remember, but there was a 5* type kid out of Louisiana that signed with Memphis, probably in the late 70s or early 80s? Don't remember his name & not sure he stayed long but he was supposed be the best running back in the nation as I recall. Had grade problems but somehow got in school. Any one remember this kid?

(02-10-2012 09:22 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  The fact that DeAngelo wasn't a 5 star tells me all I need to know.

deangelo wasnt that highly rated out of high school and didnt draw a lot of attention from the big schools. he was a big get for us and things worked out well for him.

Actually at one time DeAngelo was rated a 5* and so was Greg Hinds, but both dropped down to 4*. DeAngelo dropped to a 3*, but raised back up to a 4.

It is also crap to say that Crawford was a bust. It was only because of injury that he didn't go down as one of the Tiger greats!! He was a major reason for the Florida win, plus having E. Smith get hurt in the game helped. He once said that was the most physical game he played in college!!!

I remember DeAngelo being a four-star and top 15 all-purpose back the whole time. I think Lorenzo Booker was #1 in that category that year?

(02-16-2012 04:34 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  It is also crap to say that Crawford was a bust. It was only because of injury that he didn't go down as one of the Tiger greats!! He was a major reason for the Florida win, plus having E. Smith get hurt in the game helped. He once said that was the most physical game he played in college!!!

I attended that game in Gainesville. Memphis dominated. Listening to the callers to local talk shows after the game were consistent in their praise for the Tigers & very frustrated that Memphis seemed to have better athletes at every position, better speed, more physical. It was great day to be a Tiger fan!

(02-16-2012 07:43 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(02-16-2012 04:34 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  It is also crap to say that Crawford was a bust. It was only because of injury that he didn't go down as one of the Tiger greats!! He was a major reason for the Florida win, plus having E. Smith get hurt in the game helped. He once said that was the most physical game he played in college!!!

I attended that game in Gainesville. Memphis dominated. Listening to the callers to local talk shows after the game were consistent in their praise for the Tigers & very frustrated that Memphis seemed to have better athletes at every position, better speed, more physical. It was great day to be a Tiger fan!

the same thing our fans have been saying the last few years . . .

It's amazing what winning can do. All those complaints go away.

(02-16-2012 04:34 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  It is also crap to say that Crawford was a bust. It was only because of injury that he didn't go down as one of the Tiger greats!! He was a major reason for the Florida win, plus having E. Smith get hurt in the game helped. He once said that was the most physical game he played in college!!!

Big in win over USC too.

Poe

(02-09-2012 10:32 PM)UofMTigers1 Wrote:  Just wondering.

DeAngelo was when he left. that's why the rankings are BS