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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
Hell, announcing that we're reconsidering ANWR ought to be worth a quarter a gallon.
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Owl 69/70/75
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
I don't know whether Obama can overcome it or not, but if the republicans keep talking about contraception, he won't have to.
Republicans are driving me up the wall with their inability to forge any kind of message. I know it hurts that the candidate hasn't been identified yet, but aren't there some things they all agree on? Actually, other than abortion and gay rights, I can't really think of any, and I don't agree with the republican establishment on either of those.
There should have been a comprehensive republican energy plan years ago, and everybody should be singing from the same sheet. Instead, they let Obama get away with comments like, "we can't drill our way out of this." We can't. But we also can't get out of it in any way WITHOUT drilling. Drilling is therefore a necessary condition but not a sufficient one, and there should be some comprehensive republican plan that acknowledges that. Instead we have Gingrich saying that if we just drill everywhere, gasoline will go to $2/gallon. It won't, but that's not a reason not to drill everywhere we can.
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
Can Obama overcome his inept policies?
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02-25-2012 11:52 PM |
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Smaug
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
Apparently there IS something the president can do: blame Republicans and those big, nasty, evil oil companies.
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote: Apparently there IS something the president can do: blame Republicans and those big, nasty, evil oil companies.
Sounds like a good plan since it happens to be true.
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Owl 69/70/75
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote: Apparently there IS something the president can do: blame Republicans and those big, nasty, evil oil companies.
Sounds like a good plan since it happens to be true.
Robert, since you are so certain that is the cause, perhaps you could explain to those of us who disagree just exactly how and why that happens.
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 11:35 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (02-26-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote: Apparently there IS something the president can do: blame Republicans and those big, nasty, evil oil companies.
Sounds like a good plan since it happens to be true.
Robert, since you are so certain that is the cause, perhaps you could explain to those of us who disagree just exactly how and why that happens.
Obama biggest recipient of BP cash
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02-26-2012 12:21 PM |
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Smaug
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote: Apparently there IS something the president can do: blame Republicans and those big, nasty, evil oil companies.
Sounds like a good plan since it happens to be true.
Yeah, that's going to get the price of gas down. And the president's unwillingness to lift a finger to increase domestic production?
Are you this stupid naturally, or do you work at it?
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2012 06:56 PM by Smaug.)
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 06:51 PM)Smaug Wrote: (02-26-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote: Apparently there IS something the president can do: blame Republicans and those big, nasty, evil oil companies.
Sounds like a good plan since it happens to be true.
Yeah, that's going to get the price of gas down. And the president's unwillingness to lift a finger to increase domestic production?
Are you this stupid naturally, or do you work at it?
Do you just spout FoxNews/Republican party BS or do you actually believe that he has done nothing to increase domestic production?
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02-26-2012 09:26 PM |
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Owl 69/70/75
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 09:26 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 06:51 PM)Smaug Wrote: (02-26-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote: Apparently there IS something the president can do: blame Republicans and those big, nasty, evil oil companies.
Sounds like a good plan since it happens to be true.
Yeah, that's going to get the price of gas down. And the president's unwillingness to lift a finger to increase domestic production?
Are you this stupid naturally, or do you work at it?
Do you just spout FoxNews/Republican party BS or do you actually believe that he has done nothing to increase domestic production?
What has he done to increase domestic production?
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02-26-2012 09:29 PM |
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 09:26 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 06:51 PM)Smaug Wrote: (02-26-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote: Apparently there IS something the president can do: blame Republicans and those big, nasty, evil oil companies.
Sounds like a good plan since it happens to be true.
Yeah, that's going to get the price of gas down. And the president's unwillingness to lift a finger to increase domestic production?
Are you this stupid naturally, or do you work at it?
Do you just spout FoxNews/Republican party BS or do you actually believe that he has done nothing to increase domestic production?
Roberta, You've been told before. Current domestic production is linked to Bush, not your Obamffoon. It takes 5-6 years for new oil wells to be brought online. Let me make it perfectly clear for you, Obaffoon has done more to harm domestic production than help it.
Facts really are not your cup of tea.
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02-26-2012 09:34 PM |
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RobertN
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 09:34 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:26 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 06:51 PM)Smaug Wrote: (02-26-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:36 AM)Smaug Wrote: Apparently there IS something the president can do: blame Republicans and those big, nasty, evil oil companies.
Sounds like a good plan since it happens to be true.
Yeah, that's going to get the price of gas down. And the president's unwillingness to lift a finger to increase domestic production?
Are you this stupid naturally, or do you work at it?
Do you just spout FoxNews/Republican party BS or do you actually believe that he has done nothing to increase domestic production?
Roberta, You've been told before. Current domestic production is linked to Bush, not your Obamffoon. It takes 5-6 years for new oil wells to be brought online. Let me make it perfectly clear for you, Obaffoon has done more to harm domestic production than help it.
Facts really are not your cup of tea.
I would agree that much of current increase is due to Bush. That doesn't mean that Obama has done nothing to increase production. He did something just the other day for one thing. Kind of strange it hasn't been mentioned on here.
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02-26-2012 09:50 PM |
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Owl 69/70/75
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 09:50 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:34 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:26 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 06:51 PM)Smaug Wrote: (02-26-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote: Sounds like a good plan since it happens to be true.
Yeah, that's going to get the price of gas down. And the president's unwillingness to lift a finger to increase domestic production?
Are you this stupid naturally, or do you work at it?
Do you just spout FoxNews/Republican party BS or do you actually believe that he has done nothing to increase domestic production?
Roberta, You've been told before. Current domestic production is linked to Bush, not your Obamffoon. It takes 5-6 years for new oil wells to be brought online. Let me make it perfectly clear for you, Obaffoon has done more to harm domestic production than help it.
Facts really are not your cup of tea.
I would agree that much of current increase is due to Bush. That doesn't mean that Obama has done nothing to increase production. He did something just the other day for one thing. Kind of strange it hasn't been mentioned on here.
Perhaps you could mention it so we'd know what the h*ll you are talking about.
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02-26-2012 10:03 PM |
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RobertN
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 10:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:50 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:34 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:26 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 06:51 PM)Smaug Wrote: Yeah, that's going to get the price of gas down. And the president's unwillingness to lift a finger to increase domestic production?
Are you this stupid naturally, or do you work at it?
Do you just spout FoxNews/Republican party BS or do you actually believe that he has done nothing to increase domestic production?
Roberta, You've been told before. Current domestic production is linked to Bush, not your Obamffoon. It takes 5-6 years for new oil wells to be brought online. Let me make it perfectly clear for you, Obaffoon has done more to harm domestic production than help it.
Facts really are not your cup of tea.
I would agree that much of current increase is due to Bush. That doesn't mean that Obama has done nothing to increase production. He did something just the other day for one thing. Kind of strange it hasn't been mentioned on here.
Perhaps you could mention it so we'd know what the h*ll you are talking about.
Maybe you should look it up? I am not surprised that Fox or the rightwing media hasn't reported on it though.
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02-26-2012 10:24 PM |
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 10:24 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:50 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:34 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:26 PM)RobertN Wrote: Do you just spout FoxNews/Republican party BS or do you actually believe that he has done nothing to increase domestic production?
Roberta, You've been told before. Current domestic production is linked to Bush, not your Obamffoon. It takes 5-6 years for new oil wells to be brought online. Let me make it perfectly clear for you, Obaffoon has done more to harm domestic production than help it.
Facts really are not your cup of tea.
I would agree that much of current increase is due to Bush. That doesn't mean that Obama has done nothing to increase production. He did something just the other day for one thing. Kind of strange it hasn't been mentioned on here.
Perhaps you could mention it so we'd know what the h*ll you are talking about.
Maybe you should look it up? I am not surprised that Fox or the rightwing media hasn't reported on it though.
He has done nothing. If you wish to disagree, tell what he has done.
He has done some things that people who don't know anything about energy may claim will help. But they won't.
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2012 10:34 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
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RobertN
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 10:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:24 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:50 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:34 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: Roberta, You've been told before. Current domestic production is linked to Bush, not your Obamffoon. It takes 5-6 years for new oil wells to be brought online. Let me make it perfectly clear for you, Obaffoon has done more to harm domestic production than help it.
Facts really are not your cup of tea.
I would agree that much of current increase is due to Bush. That doesn't mean that Obama has done nothing to increase production. He did something just the other day for one thing. Kind of strange it hasn't been mentioned on here.
Perhaps you could mention it so we'd know what the h*ll you are talking about.
Maybe you should look it up? I am not surprised that Fox or the rightwing media hasn't reported on it though.
He has done nothing. If you wish to disagree, tell what he has done.
Even if I posted articles on what he has done, you still wouldn't believe it or find some fault in what he has done so why waste my time?
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02-26-2012 10:35 PM |
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Owl 69/70/75
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 10:35 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:24 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (02-26-2012 09:50 PM)RobertN Wrote: I would agree that much of current increase is due to Bush. That doesn't mean that Obama has done nothing to increase production. He did something just the other day for one thing. Kind of strange it hasn't been mentioned on here.
Perhaps you could mention it so we'd know what the h*ll you are talking about.
Maybe you should look it up? I am not surprised that Fox or the rightwing media hasn't reported on it though.
He has done nothing. If you wish to disagree, tell what he has done.
Even if I posted articles on what he has done, you still wouldn't believe it or find some fault in what he has done so why waste my time?
Why don't you try and see? It'd be a new experience for you to post something factual.
Obama has done things that he and/or some of his supporters have claimed will help energy. But they won't. If that's what you're talking about, then I understand where you are coming from. But it won't help with energy.
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02-26-2012 10:39 PM |
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RobertN
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 10:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:35 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:24 PM)RobertN Wrote: (02-26-2012 10:03 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Perhaps you could mention it so we'd know what the h*ll you are talking about.
Maybe you should look it up? I am not surprised that Fox or the rightwing media hasn't reported on it though.
He has done nothing. If you wish to disagree, tell what he has done.
Even if I posted articles on what he has done, you still wouldn't believe it or find some fault in what he has done so why waste my time?
Why don't you try and see? It'd be a new experience for you to post something factual.
Obama has done things that he and/or some of his supporters have claimed will help energy. But they won't. If that's what you're talking about, then I understand where you are coming from. But it won't help with energy.
I am talking about oil "exploration"(I friggin' hate that word. Just call it drilling!) not alternatives.
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
But Obama has not DONE anything.
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02-26-2012 11:11 PM |
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-26-2012 11:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: But Obama has not DONE anything.
that's the rightwing talking point. Now do some research and learn the truth.
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