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Bortles or Gabbert?

State your reasoning. Poll open to anyone familiar with both Quarterbacks, not just UCF fans.
02-15-2012 04:19 PM
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There isn't a good reason not to go with Bortles. We know that he plays well on Saturdays. He can throw his way out of a blitz. He scared off one of the most successful UCF QBs ever. He fits well with our offense and crappy o-line.

My only concern is whether he is clutch. That was a choke at the end of the USM game. But he's just a freshman and he's played relatively well at the end of other games.

The only points I can see for Gabbert is that his brother is a mediocre NFL QB and he was higher rated coming out of high school. I think we've all seen enough to know that performance on the field counts more than recruiting stars and in my book, transfers are bad until proven good.

All aboard the Bortles bandwagon.
02-16-2012 11:57 AM
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Same here, but I hope O'Leary has learned from last year. If Bortles is doing bad, there's no reason not to put Gabbert in. We just have to find a happy medium between what he did with the QB's and what he did with Latavius, Weaver, and Brynn... that was a nightmare..
02-16-2012 12:42 PM
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Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but when did doing things by committee become so popular? I would just prefer a RB that got 80% of the touches and a QB that gets 100% of non mop-up duty.

I feel like that's the way most successful teams operate. Let your skill players get into a groove.
02-16-2012 01:21 PM
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I'll be the first to admit that I was excited at the prospect of 3 skill running backs taking snaps. I'll also be the first to admit that we over-estimated the skills of Ronnie Weaver and Brynn Harvey. Ronnie more so. Brynn showed sparks of brilliance but it was Latavius that held the offense on his back.

I hope to see rotations of Latavius and Storm next season with Brynn acting as a solid second string. Latavius has the size and the blocking skills to run the dual RB set with Storm likely taking the larger chunk of the snaps.
02-16-2012 02:06 PM
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I voted for Bortles simply because I haven't seen Gabbert play yet in Orlando. If Bortles wins out in camp, and if history is any indicator, I suspect Gabbert will get his chance by the 3rd or 4th game of year when Bortles just isn't getting the job done. Knowing O'Leary, however, I suspect he'll turn this into a 2 QB rotation system all season, and that's sure to drive any Knights fan nuts.
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I hope O'Leary doesn't need to do that again...

If we were running a dual threat QB in tandem with Bortles as a pocket passer with mobility, tandem playbook aka the Wild Knight, then i'd be for it... but we lost our Dual threat QB recruit to Auburn...
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Both have 3 years of eligibility left. I think it will be interesting to see if Gabbert sticks around if Blake beats him for the job. Bortles could be something special. Gabbert could be a prima donna. If I were the coach, I would put experience ahead of potential, but I fear GOL is just going to ruin it all for us by trying to placate both players - and as he said late last year, when two QB's are competing, one usually leaves. I'm afraid GOL won't manage this well.
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I hope we aren't cursed to a good freshman appearance for QBs, with the following year being mediocre...

But I voted Bortles because he seems to be what we need: a great pocket presence with nominal scrambling ability.
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Not having seen Gabbert play I dont know how well he fits GOL's system. Blake was made for a GOL offense though and he showed it last year. Not to mention that Gabbert is a year behind in learning the system.

Like others, I dont want to see the ping pong effect with QB's, but it is asanine to stay with a QB who is struggling because "he needs the chance to prove himself".
02-17-2012 08:08 PM
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I can't think of a good reason not to start Bortles at this point. I just don't have enough information about Gabbert. Spring practice will tell us more.
02-18-2012 01:02 AM
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(02-17-2012 06:59 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I hope we aren't cursed to a good freshman appearance for QBs, with the following year being mediocre...

But I voted Bortles because he seems to be what we need: a great pocket presence with nominal scrambling ability.

It is my opinion that Godfrey's slump was a direct result of two things.

-Terrible O-Line (as shown in the terrible run offense)
-C-USA DC's figuring out how to contain him.

The combination of poor pocket protection, poor pocket presence, no run block, and inaccurate deep balls plus exceptional pass rush... it had nowhere to go but bad. I think Bortles will be able to excel even more once we get the Oline stabilized.
02-18-2012 01:07 AM
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Gabbert is not getting a lot of love. That makes sense, though, since we don't really know that much about him except that he apparently didn't like his prospects to start at Mizzou. Or Louisville.

This article didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy.

Read the comments, too.
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(02-18-2012 01:07 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  It is my opinion that Godfrey's slump was a direct result of two things.

-Terrible O-Line (as shown in the terrible run offense)
-C-USA DC's figuring out how to contain him.

The combination of poor pocket protection, poor pocket presence, no run block, and inaccurate deep balls plus exceptional pass rush... it had nowhere to go but bad. I think Bortles will be able to excel even more once we get the Oline stabilized.

I would add a third reason why Godfrey slumped in 2011, but it's related to your 2nd reason of the DC's figuring him out. It's his size. He's no bigger than a slot receiver, and C-USA keeps getting bigger and bigger each year. The schedule he faced in 2011 was tougher and bigger. The linebackers and DB's were able to keep him from getting to the outside practically all season. Gone were the explosive plays we saw a lot of in 2010 when he was turned lose like a mad man. GOL should have recognized this sooner and found a way to get him and Bortles in the game at the same time by running reverses or quick screens to get Godfrey the ball in open space. Godfrey would have made a great slot receiver, but I guess he insisted on being an undersized QB. I wish him luck at FAU or wherever he lands. Maybe in a smaller conference he'll rediscover that explosive move to the outside.
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Godfrey was great on opening drives, then faltered later in the second and third quarters. That leads me to believe that he was good at executing the scripted plays, but maybe failed to remember the on-the-fly play calls. His suspension for this spring was academics-related (unofficially), so i wonder if he stopped preparing as much.

Three issues I saw with Godfrey:
1. Inability to sell the play-action - many times his hand-off was pulled a yard or two away from the RB, so the pass rush wasn't fooled and the DB's weren't fooled.
2. Size was not as much of an issue as was the loss of feel for pocket pressure - he had a hard time recognizing where the protection had broken down and took a fe too many sacks.
3. He fell down a lot - even going back to his freshman season there were many times when Godfrey woudl juke himself out of his shoes and have to fall forward without even being touched.

I wish him luck at FAU. Carl Pelini should be able to get more out of him than GOL could.
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Bortles Experience
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