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ACC has 16 team model w/ ND and UConn ready
http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/02/repor...ame-uconn/

Excerpt: Desmond Carter Hartford Courant
UConn, with multiple championships in men's and women's basketball, and its football, soccer and baseball programs on the rise, is the biggest brand name left and might look more at home in a conference such as the ACC as opposed to the new Big East. Sources told The Courant recently that the ACC has a 16-team model in place with its first choices being Notre Dame and UConn, but with Notre Dame maintaining its independent position there is no rush to go to 16. If the ACC can't convince Notre Dame, Rutgerscould get the call with UConn, but sources say there is no rush there, either.
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RE: ACC has 16 team model w/ ND and UConn ready
(02-15-2012 09:36 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/02/repor...ame-uconn/

Excerpt: Desmond Carter Hartford Courant
UConn, with multiple championships in men's and women's basketball, and its football, soccer and baseball programs on the rise, is the biggest brand name left and might look more at home in a conference such as the ACC as opposed to the new Big East. Sources told The Courant recently that the ACC has a 16-team model in place with its first choices being Notre Dame and UConn, but with Notre Dame maintaining its independent position there is no rush to go to 16. If the ACC can't convince Notre Dame, Rutgerscould get the call with UConn, but sources say there is no rush there, either.

Of course, the only people who continue to make this claim are Uconn fans/media - always referring to that old standby: "sources." When something like this is reported outside of the Uconn media/fan bubble (and is not sourced from that said bubble), I think we can then pay attention to it.
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I'm sure the ACC has a plan for if Notre Dame wants to join. I have a plan if the ACC wants to fire Swofford and hire me as commissioner, too! LOL.
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(02-15-2012 12:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I'm sure the ACC has a plan for if Notre Dame wants to join. I have a plan if the ACC wants to fire Swofford and hire me as commissioner, too! LOL.

It would be better I'm sure.

Honestly you could get a poo throwing monkey from the zoo and do the job that Tarhole Johnny has done.
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RE: ACC has 16 team model w/ ND and UConn ready
Is there a conference that doesn't have a plan for ND to join? I bet the Ivy League has a plan for ND to join.

What say we test that theory? I'll bring a video camera, you bring the monkey. Anybody have a box of poo??
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Guessing we're going to have to deal w/ these rumors for the next 12-13 years. 03-banghead

Can't seeing the league expanding before the next TV Deal negotiations unless ND is part of the frame.
02-15-2012 04:31 PM
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RE: ACC has 16 team model w/ ND and UConn ready
ND ain't going anywhere anytime soon....but there's no real rush (and I don't see the need) to add Rutgers and UConn
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I agree, the Irish are going nowhere... football independent and Big East for all else. As for the Huskies, UConn has bigger issues to worry about with its student athlete grades, violations, coaching concerns, and whatever to even think about moving to the ACC at this point.
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(02-15-2012 11:44 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  I agree, the Irish are going nowhere... football independent and Big East for all else. As for the Huskies, UConn has bigger issues to worry about with its student athlete grades, violations, coaching concerns, and whatever to even think about moving to the ACC at this point.

...in men's basketball. All other 21 sports are clean, in case you weren't aware.

There is obviously nothing to this rumor. If there were, Herbst would be prancing around to every news outlet within 100 miles of Storrs announcing UConn's willingness to explore "other conference options."
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RE: ACC has 16 team model w/ ND and UConn ready
(02-15-2012 11:54 AM)Eagle78 Wrote:  
(02-15-2012 09:36 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/02/repor...ame-uconn/

Excerpt: Desmond Carter Hartford Courant
UConn, with multiple championships in men's and women's basketball, and its football, soccer and baseball programs on the rise, is the biggest brand name left and might look more at home in a conference such as the ACC as opposed to the new Big East. Sources told The Courant recently that the ACC has a 16-team model in place with its first choices being Notre Dame and UConn, but with Notre Dame maintaining its independent position there is no rush to go to 16. If the ACC can't convince Notre Dame, Rutgerscould get the call with UConn, but sources say there is no rush there, either.

Of course, the only people who continue to make this claim are Uconn fans/media - always referring to that old standby: "sources." When something like this is reported outside of the Uconn media/fan bubble (and is not sourced from that said bubble), I think we can then pay attention to it.

Gotta sell papers somehow. It's simply irresponsbible journalism. I don't think UConn is permanently locked out of the ACC, but if ND does make a move, they will probably choose who is #16. Their basketball and olympic sports coaches will obviously prefer UConn, but football would prefer Rutgers due to their market. And I doubt ND moves anywhere unless they absolutely have to.

If the endgame for all major conferences is 16, UConn will be fine. I'm not too worried about us at the moment.
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(02-16-2012 05:40 PM)uconnbaseball Wrote:  
(02-15-2012 11:54 AM)Eagle78 Wrote:  
(02-15-2012 09:36 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2012/02/repor...ame-uconn/

Excerpt: Desmond Carter Hartford Courant
UConn, with multiple championships in men's and women's basketball, and its football, soccer and baseball programs on the rise, is the biggest brand name left and might look more at home in a conference such as the ACC as opposed to the new Big East. Sources told The Courant recently that the ACC has a 16-team model in place with its first choices being Notre Dame and UConn, but with Notre Dame maintaining its independent position there is no rush to go to 16. If the ACC can't convince Notre Dame, Rutgerscould get the call with UConn, but sources say there is no rush there, either.

Of course, the only people who continue to make this claim are Uconn fans/media - always referring to that old standby: "sources." When something like this is reported outside of the Uconn media/fan bubble (and is not sourced from that said bubble), I think we can then pay attention to it.

Gotta sell papers somehow. It's simply irresponsbible journalism. I don't think UConn is permanently locked out of the ACC, but if ND does make a move, they will probably choose who is #16. Their basketball and olympic sports coaches will obviously prefer UConn, but football would prefer Rutgers due to their market. And I doubt ND moves anywhere unless they absolutely have to.

If the endgame for all major conferences is 16, UConn will be fine. I'm not too worried about us at the moment.

I wouldn't be too sure about ND football wanting Rutgers due to their market, not if what I heard about BiG expansion a few years ago is accurate.

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Rutgers blew their chances to do anything with Notre Dame when they declined to play the Irish in the Meadowlands.

UConn will not be invited to join the ACC.
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(02-16-2012 08:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  Rutgers blew their chances to do anything with Notre Dame when they declined to play the Irish in the Meadowlands.

UConn will not be invited to join the ACC.

The latter is likely truth because ND ain't giving up independence, but if the Irish did decide to join the ACC, I firmly believe UConn is a "lock" to be #16 (unless something totally unrealistic/otherworldly were to happen where either Penn State or Texas were willing to come in with the Irish).

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If Notre Dame decide to join the ACC and they said they want East Carolina to be the 16th team... well hello Pirates! (my point is, NO ONE IS A LOCK to be #16).

Maybe Penn State will come to their senses and become #16. Maybe Swofford will be hit by an orange vehicle and his replacement will get Houston and Southern Miss...
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Louisville would be better than Rutgers or Connecticut.
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(02-17-2012 12:16 PM)snowycuse Wrote:  Louisville would be better than Rutgers or Connecticut.

^^^ Most intelligent comment with the words "Rutgers" and "Connecticut" in it.
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Rutgers pulls ahead of UConn by getting an SEC team(Arkansas) north of the Mason-Dixon line.
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(02-17-2012 01:32 PM)wildthing202 Wrote:  Rutgers pulls ahead of UConn by getting an SEC team(Arkansas) north of the Mason-Dixon line.

I wouldn't consider Rutgers an Arkansas by any means. The closest school to an SEC school is PSU.
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(02-17-2012 11:49 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If Notre Dame decide to join the ACC and they said they want East Carolina to be the 16th team... well hello Pirates! (my point is, NO ONE IS A LOCK to be #16).

Maybe Penn State will come to their senses and become #16. Maybe Swofford will be hit by an orange vehicle and his replacement will get Houston and Southern Miss...

As per your first statement, if we go on the assumption that #15 is ND (which is very unlikely anyway), then UConn is as near a lock as one could get for #16.

If we go on the assumption that Penn State became #15 (which is even more unlikely than ND as #15), then Rutgers would be as near a lock as one could get for #16.

The only scenarios that changes the above is ND and Penn State (their administrations, which are subject to change, really, really, really, seem not to like each other) or ND and Texas (their administrations, which are subject to change, seem really, really, really to like each other).

But it's all virtually moot, since ND loves being independent for football; PSU loves the CIC and the BTN; and Texas loves being in control of whatever conference they are in.

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(02-17-2012 05:46 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(02-17-2012 01:32 PM)wildthing202 Wrote:  Rutgers pulls ahead of UConn by getting an SEC team(Arkansas) north of the Mason-Dixon line.

I wouldn't consider Rutgers an Arkansas by any means. The closest school to an SEC school is PSU.

I believe he was referring to Rutgers getting a match-up with Arkansas, not being like Arkansas. 03-wink

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