when Stansbury was leaving - the big 3 coaches (DeChellis, Mullins, Warren) met and decided that one of them must become the next AD. DeChellis would have brought a professional / big time department approach to the position, Mullins was a direct link to the behind the door dealings with the university through his 2nd wife, Warren would have brought great fund raising techniques to the department.

we know how the Mullins technique has worked out. seems like once Brooks, Baker, Clark (the positive influences to the department) left the teams are severely suffering - doesn't look like an All Sports trophy this year.

where would we be with DeChellis or Warren as the AD?

(02-11-2012 03:03 PM)bucfan99 Wrote:  when Stansbury was leaving - the big 3 coaches (DeChellis, Mullins, Warren) met and decided that one of them must become the next AD. DeChellis would have brought a professional / big time department approach to the position, Mullins was a direct link to the behind the door dealings with the university through his 2nd wife, Warren would have brought great fund raising techniques to the department.

we know how the Mullins technique has worked out. seems like once Brooks, Baker, Clark (the positive influences to the department) left the teams are severely suffering - doesn't look like an All Sports trophy this year.

where would we be with DeChellis or Warren as the AD?

Or, if Stanton had of had the foresight, interest, leadership skills, backbone, etc. to retain Stansbury? Of course that's a done deal. Question now, will Noland hire a Stansbury type to get this athletic department turned around? An $11 million a year department MUST have a capable, productive, visionary leader at the helm. Can't imagine Noland letting this present farce go on very long. Would see Mullins retiring soon so that Noland can make a move here.

(02-11-2012 06:10 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 03:03 PM)bucfan99 Wrote:  when Stansbury was leaving - the big 3 coaches (DeChellis, Mullins, Warren) met and decided that one of them must become the next AD. DeChellis would have brought a professional / big time department approach to the position, Mullins was a direct link to the behind the door dealings with the university through his 2nd wife, Warren would have brought great fund raising techniques to the department.

we know how the Mullins technique has worked out. seems like once Brooks, Baker, Clark (the positive influences to the department) left the teams are severely suffering - doesn't look like an All Sports trophy this year.

where would we be with DeChellis or Warren as the AD?

Or, if Stanton had of had the foresight, interest, leadership skills, backbone, etc. to retain Stansbury? Of course that's a done deal. Question now, will Noland hire a Stansbury type to get this athletic department turned around? An $11 million a year department MUST have a capable, productive, visionary leader at the helm. Can't imagine Noland letting this present farce go on very long. Would see Mullins retiring soon so that Noland can make a move here.

If I were Mullins I would voluntarily put it for retirement effective this summer. Noland HAS to know by now what has been going on.

Re: "seems like once Brooks, Baker, Clark (the positive influences to the department) left the teams are severely suffering - doesn't look like an All Sports trophy this year."

Coach Brooks was great and is really missed by the community and the team. He really devoted a lot of time to developing the players he recruited. This year's junors and seniors were recruited and coached by Brooks and are doing well. Zaatini devotes so much to the men that the women's practices and matches are often run by the assitant coaches who don't have the same expertise and experience that Brooks/Zaatini have. Luckily, the conference was weak last year, so the women still maintained the success they developed under Brooks.

Coach Brooks also maintained the courts and worked hard to involve the community in ETSU Women's Tennis. Not suprisingly, he is having a great deal of success working with high level junior players now. One of his players earned a silver ball (2nd place supernational tournament), and several of his players are top ranked in the state in their age divisions.

(02-11-2012 06:10 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(02-11-2012 03:03 PM)bucfan99 Wrote:  when Stansbury was leaving - the big 3 coaches (DeChellis, Mullins, Warren) met and decided that one of them must become the next AD. DeChellis would have brought a professional / big time department approach to the position, Mullins was a direct link to the behind the door dealings with the university through his 2nd wife, Warren would have brought great fund raising techniques to the department.

we know how the Mullins technique has worked out. seems like once Brooks, Baker, Clark (the positive influences to the department) left the teams are severely suffering - doesn't look like an All Sports trophy this year.

where would we be with DeChellis or Warren as the AD?

Or, if Stanton had of had the foresight, interest, leadership skills, backbone, etc. to retain Stansbury? Of course that's a done deal. Question now, will Noland hire a Stansbury type to get this athletic department turned around? An $11 million a year department MUST have a capable, productive, visionary leader at the helm. Can't imagine Noland letting this present farce go on very long. Would see Mullins retiring soon so that Noland can make a move here.

If Stansbury had stayed just a couple more years, I think things would be very different right now.

Some of you people have such little understanding of what goes on at ETSU that it amazes me you say you follow the program.

There has been a push for Fred Warren to be the AD since at least 1997, when Chip Kessler wrote about it in Sports Talk. Frankly, the guy couldn't stand the pay cut. He'd have to share; it's not happening.

Second, my sources tell me DeChellis was contacted about the AD job when Stansbury left, but he turned it down with his eye on Penn State. Stanton, sick of seeing ADs come and go, then decided a longtime coach would be the best bet because he wouldn't be going anywhere. How much of what Mullins has done since then is carrying on Stanton's vision and how much his own, I can't tell you, but I think the Mullins imprint is there.

I can tell you that if these three men did what you say, and that would mean putting aside a lot of egos and different visions, my guess is that ETSU still wouldn't have football. The overwhelming belief of these three men is that football was taking money away from their own departments. The only thing that I think could have been different is if DeChellis had known dropping football would have gotten ETSU kicked out of the SoCon, something Mullins did not know, which shows his total incompetence.

If he had, then the only thing that could have saved football, in hindsight, was if DeChellis valued SoCon membership and could have somehow won internal battles with Mullins and Warren to not leave for a sunny Florida conference, which theoretically benefits sports like tennis, golf, baseball, etc.

But that's unlikely. Remember DeChellis wanted to leave. He had interviewed at Duquesne and College of Charleston in the years before he took the Penn State job.

That's the other thing you have to look at with the athletic director's position, and for that matter coaching positions at ETSU. ETSU is destined to be a stepping stone. Even Sonny Smith, from Roan Mountain, took the first train he could out of this place. The sort of coach who will stay at ETSU will be someone like Murry Bartow, who is just a little too long in the tooth to really go anywhere, Karen Kemp, who had enough modest success and was a likeable enough person that she could keep her job here but never made the NCAAs for her first 10 years on the job and therefore nobody else really wanted her, and David Mullins, who couldn't possibly get an AD job at any other Division I University.

Stansbury wasn't going to stay. Now, Keener Fry may have been able to stay since he was from the area and really did some good things, but it is my guess his vision for athletics (strong football) wasn't what Paul Stanton's vision was (what does it cost?). Hence he went to Wyoming.

The next AD at ETSU, if I could have my perfect selection, would be a guy who has been an AD at a larger school before and therefore knows how to grow a program and is now just sort of willing to get out of the high profile mix for something with less media pressure and the like. That was what I hoped Jim Weaver, late of UNLV, would have been when he was a candidate in the mid-'90s. But he took his name out of the mix (they went with Fry, the fourth choice overall incidentily) and then went to Virginia Tech, and you see what has happened there.

Stansbury would have stayed if he could have moved football outside downtown but Pete P killed the move during an ego rage at a commissioner meeting, otherwise Stansbury would have stayed. Mullins and Dechellis wanted Warren to take the position but Fred was too humble (imagine that!). Warren would have convinced Stanton to keep football, kept ETSU in the SoCon and all sports programs would be much better off (and Mullins would be retired by now). Fred knew and still knows all of the in's and out's of NCAA I athletics and knows how to effectively raise money.

What fantasy world do you live in?

99's post is not accurate.