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RE: C-USA & MWC dissolving to merge 2013: Affects new BE teams' buyouts?
(02-13-2012 04:12 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
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(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.
It's 4,864 miles between ECU and Hawaii, further than it is between ECU and London, England. LOL! 05-stirthepot
They could always add a few miles to it (to put it mildly), and play the game in Hong Kong, to try to corner the Chinese market...
Calipari wanted to do this in CBB when he was at Memphis.
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RE: C-USA & MWC dissolving to merge 2013: Affects new BE teams' buyouts?
(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Except that Rutgers probably has a larger market than the entire west side of the new MW/CUSA conference combined. There is no similarity between the two leagues other than they both go coast to coast. By that measure the New Big East is also similar to the NFL.
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(02-13-2012 08:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  [Image: 6022046_d8198afadc_m.jpeg]
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(02-13-2012 08:55 PM)attackfrog Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Except that Rutgers probably has a larger market than the entire west side of the new MW/CUSA conference combined. There is no similarity between the two leagues other than they both go coast to coast. By that measure the New Big East is also similar to the NFL.

If we're smart we add Air Force, BYU, Temple and ECU now. If BYU won't come bring on UMass. Keep them completely at bay. Speaking as an Eastern college sports guy being in a conference with Navy, Temple, UConn, ECU, UMass, Cincy, Louisville, USF and UCF doesn't look so bad.
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(02-13-2012 09:57 PM)brista21 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 08:55 PM)attackfrog Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Except that Rutgers probably has a larger market than the entire west side of the new MW/CUSA conference combined. There is no similarity between the two leagues other than they both go coast to coast. By that measure the New Big East is also similar to the NFL.

If we're smart we add Air Force, BYU, Temple and ECU now. If BYU won't come bring on UMass. Keep them completely at bay. Speaking as an Eastern college sports guy being in a conference with Navy, Temple, UConn, ECU, UMass, Cincy, Louisville, USF and UCF doesn't look so bad.

If we could pull BYU(HUGE) and ECU (or USM) to get to 14. That would be solid. or add USM and Temple or Air Force to get to 16.

If we go to 16 and you got to add USM at some point right? They could really do some good with more money. And would clearly be the best team in MS.
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The Big East took six quality programs from CUSA and the MWC. No frickin' way is the Alliance anywhere close to the level of the Big East.
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(02-13-2012 10:10 PM)PATiger Wrote:  The Big East took six quality programs from CUSA and the MWC. No frickin' way is the Alliance anywhere close to the level of the Big East.

HELL NO
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(02-13-2012 04:22 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Man, am I glad we got invited to the BEast! Our deadline to ink the new alliance deal was next Monday, Feb. 20. Just in time.

I'm happy for you guys as well! That conference has fail written all over it! Welcome aboard!

Even though we were already gone... Ditto's. 02-13-banana
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No reason to knock the Alliance. It's making the best of a bad situation.
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(02-13-2012 10:19 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  No reason to knock the Alliance. It's making the best of a bad situation.

I agree and hope it works out as best it can for them
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(02-13-2012 10:34 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 10:19 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  No reason to knock the Alliance. It's making the best of a bad situation.

I agree and hope it works out as best it can for them

I agree, I hope they are successful in creating this new conference. I don't agree that they are comparable with the New BE, but I do hope they become viable.
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(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

This is false. The BE fan support, level of competition, TV and market value, and in every other way is superior to MountUSA. Seriously, have you seen the attendance figures of the bottom of the MountUSA. It makes USF's attendance look like Michigan's, and USF only averages about 45K a game. MountUSA has no one that can match the value of Louisville, cincy, Rutgers, Boise, UConn, USF, etc. etc.
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(02-13-2012 04:10 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.

It's 4,864 miles between ECU and Hawaii, further than it is between ECU and London, England. LOL! 05-stirthepot

The University of London is joining the Alliance as a "football-only" member.

Association football, of course.
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(02-13-2012 11:25 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:10 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.

It's 4,864 miles between ECU and Hawaii, further than it is between ECU and London, England. LOL! 05-stirthepot

The University of London is joining the Alliance as a "football-only" member.

Association football, of course.

Since Portsmouth is about to go into bankruptcy and will probably be relegated to League 1, I say they should make a run at them. ECU @ Portsmouth at Fratton Park would be nuts.
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(02-13-2012 11:33 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 11:25 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:10 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.

It's 4,864 miles between ECU and Hawaii, further than it is between ECU and London, England. LOL! 05-stirthepot

The University of London is joining the Alliance as a "football-only" member.

Association football, of course.

Since Portsmouth is about to go into bankruptcy and will probably be relegated to League 1, I say they should make a run at them. ECU @ Portsmouth at Fratton Park would be nuts.

I don't think Pompey could compete with ECU
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(02-13-2012 11:41 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 11:33 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 11:25 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:10 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.

It's 4,864 miles between ECU and Hawaii, further than it is between ECU and London, England. LOL! 05-stirthepot

The University of London is joining the Alliance as a "football-only" member.

Association football, of course.

Since Portsmouth is about to go into bankruptcy and will probably be relegated to League 1, I say they should make a run at them. ECU @ Portsmouth at Fratton Park would be nuts.

I don't think Pompey could compete with ECU

yea, plus it wouldnt look good for the conference when Fratton Park gets repo'd.
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Btw, my saying that I'm glad we're out of C-USA wasn't meant as a knock on the alliance, but rather a declaration of joy for our new conference. I wish MountUSA well, but anybody who would prefer them over the BE isn't thinking straight.

The line is drawn between the haves and have nots, to some degree, between the BEast and the new conference (the line otherwise known as the BCS), and we crossed the river just before the drawbridge was pulled up.

Btw, I think it will be more difficult to pull ECU, USM or any other team from the Alliance, b/c they are all signing contracts for the new conference, as we discuss this. Our deadline was next Monday. I imagine there will be steep exit fees. JMO, though.

I feel badly for ECU and USM and Temple. They still might make it, but I think it just got harder, for at least the first two, anyway.
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Yeah. It seemed like the sourest of grapes when I saw people on the Memphis/C-USA board suggesting that C-USA or the Alliance was a better option than BE before we got the invite, but now that we're on the inside looking out the notion seems even more laughable.

I think the Alliance can be a positive move for the schools involved and there are plenty of schools I respect who'll be members of it, but the only comparison is the strategy, not the overall strength/benefits.
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(02-13-2012 08:55 PM)attackfrog Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Except that Rutgers probably has a larger market than the entire west side of the new MW/CUSA conference combined.

Rutgers has a very small market penetration, which is what matters. This merged conference basically duplicates the NBE.
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(02-13-2012 10:19 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  No reason to knock the Alliance. It's making the best of a bad situation.

Yep, and that's another way it is similar to the NBE.
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