Once all the good programs are gone would C-USA or The Mountain Weak Conference not have parity with the Sun Belt?

Then the process of building begins anew and in 20 years we may well see UTSA or UAB as the new BCS busters or whatever the monoploy is called by then. Or perhaps they will further sub-divide FBS with the Big 6 conferences being Tier 1 and everyone else (C-USA, MWC, WAC, SunBelt, MAC) being Tier 2 with seperate playoffs and championships for each.


Either way I think UT, Alabama, USC, and a few others will find a way to screw the rest of us.

(02-10-2012 03:52 AM)willhclark Wrote:  Once all the good programs are gone would C-USA or The Mountain Weak Conference not have parity with the Sun Belt?

I'm pretty sure the East just lost it's 5th and 6th place teams, so I'm not too worried.

I also think that CUSA just lost 3 of its last 6 football champs.

(02-10-2012 06:17 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  I also think that CUSA just lost 3 of its last 6 football champs.

Which is 50%, so you can't say "all the good programs are gone".

We'll be okay. If your school is moving 'up', good for you, but show some class and don't act like C-USA is going to fold without you. We might merge with the MWC, which would keep us above the Belt, or we might take some of the better programs from the Belt, which would also keep us above them.

Thanks for your concern, but kindly GTFO. ECU and USM account for 3 of the last 6 football championships also. Two of those were over Houston. Don't worry about us, we'll be fine.

When ya'll want to come down off that pedestal, come to see us at Dowdy-Ficklen or the Rock and let us remind you what real football looks like.

Parity with Sunbelt ?? Are you friggin serious ?? What kind of parity ?? Sunbelt has one team...North Texas who has ever had a Top 25 finish. Just glancing at a few CUSA holdovers
Tulsa 11 Top 25 finishes
Tulane 7 Top 25 and 1 Top 10 finish
Southern Miss 4 Top 25 finishes
ECU 3 Top 25 finishes and 1 Top 10
Marshall 3 Top 25 finishes and 1 Top 10

Speaking for ECU we have 49k in attendance $30 million Athletic Budget we have knocked off ranked programs like Miami, WVU, VT, NCST, Syracuse, Pitt, TCU, Boise St. etc...What Sunbelt team has ever knocked off a ranked AQ BCS team ??? answer big ZIPPY

There is no parity in history of Top 25 finishes, no parity in Athletic Budgets, no parity in attendance, no parity in recruiting, no parity in quality wins over AQ schools, no parity in TV Contract, no parity in anything with the Sun Belt. Go sell crazy somewhere else

This is one of the dumbest Thread topics.

Completely clueless.

Louisville Syndrome. Highly contagious. Incurable, even by repeated athletic failure.

"all the good teams are gone" Ha! Ha! ECU has a series lead in football over Cent Fla, Memphis, not sure about Houston, we've beaten Boise in one bowl game. How many bcs teams have the NBE beaten?

(02-10-2012 06:57 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  Parity with Sunbelt ?? Are you friggin serious ?? What kind of parity ?? Sunbelt has one team...North Texas who has ever had a Top 25 finish. Just glancing at a few CUSA holdovers
Tulsa 11 Top 25 finishes
Tulane 7 Top 25 and 1 Top 10 finish
Southern Miss 4 Top 25 finishes
ECU 3 Top 25 finishes and 1 Top 10
Marshall 3 Top 25 finishes and 1 Top 10

Speaking for ECU we have 49k in attendance $30 million Athletic Budget we have knocked off ranked programs like Miami, WVU, VT, NCST, Syracuse, Pitt, TCU, Boise St. etc...What Sunbelt team has ever knocked off a ranked AQ BCS team ??? answer big ZIPPY

There is no parity in history of Top 25 finishes, no parity in Athletic Budgets, no parity in attendance, no parity in recruiting, no parity in quality wins over AQ schools, no parity in TV Contract, no parity in anything with the Sun Belt. Go sell crazy somewhere else

For the life of me, I don't understand why ECU was not one of the schools invited into the BE. You guys have great facilities, great attendance, a strong athletic budget, and a winning football program. Is there some kind of long running feud going on that kept you guys out of the BE?

This thread just wreaks of butthurt from the OP over not being able to beat ECU and USM in CUSA championship games.

I'll be very happy to see both Houston and UCF go!

(02-10-2012 07:08 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(02-10-2012 06:57 AM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  Parity with Sunbelt ?? Are you friggin serious ?? What kind of parity ?? Sunbelt has one team...North Texas who has ever had a Top 25 finish. Just glancing at a few CUSA holdovers
Tulsa 11 Top 25 finishes
Tulane 7 Top 25 and 1 Top 10 finish
Southern Miss 4 Top 25 finishes
ECU 3 Top 25 finishes and 1 Top 10
Marshall 3 Top 25 finishes and 1 Top 10

Speaking for ECU we have 49k in attendance $30 million Athletic Budget we have knocked off ranked programs like Miami, WVU, VT, NCST, Syracuse, Pitt, TCU, Boise St. etc...What Sunbelt team has ever knocked off a ranked AQ BCS team ??? answer big ZIPPY

There is no parity in history of Top 25 finishes, no parity in Athletic Budgets, no parity in attendance, no parity in recruiting, no parity in quality wins over AQ schools, no parity in TV Contract, no parity in anything with the Sun Belt. Go sell crazy somewhere else

For the life of me, I don't understand why ECU was not one of the schools invited into the BE. You guys have great facilities, great attendance, a strong athletic budget, and a winning football program. Is there some kind of long running feud going on that kept you guys out of the BE?

Well in fairness there have been 3 Big East expansion cycles. The first in 1991 was where ECU came the closest. The acting Big East Commissioner at that time was in close contact with ECU, VT, WVU, Miami and Temple during the whole process. My cousin was then ECU Athletic Director Dave Hart. He worked closely especially with WVU and VT about that expansion process. The Big East Commissioner made his decision which was Miami and WVU as a no brainer but believe it or not ECU came down to the wire with Temple and VT. At the time ECU and VT were almost mirror images as an Athletic program but with ECU just having a 11-1 #9 finish. VT attendance was around 25-30k as was ECU's. VT won out with Academics and a couple other intangibles but the Big East Commissioner was at least respectful and gave Dave Hart a personal phone call to tell him how close it was at the end between ECU, VT and Temple and how much respect he had for the ECU Athletic program.
The 2003,2004 expansion cycle ECU Football was in the gutter with John Thompson and our whole Athletic Administration and even Academic leadership was in a bad place. Big East was also looking towards Basketball in that expansion round and needed a Florida School to replace Miami so we were just not in the cards.

This expansion cycle I honestly thought ECU would make it in based on the loses and needs of the Big East especially when they lost Football superstar WVU. Not that we are anywhere close to WVU but we are a Football first, crazy fanbase that if given the opportunity would grow big time. I completely understand Boise St..Football credibility...Houston..great history and great market...UCF...great market and potential and well its Florida...after that I get a little foggy with the Big East choices especially San Diego St and Navy. But if anything it provided closure for ECU fans as we now know without a shadow of a doubt under the current leadership of the Big East we are probably not going to ever be invited.

Since the C-USA/Sun Belt topic has been brought up ...

COLUMN: C-USA/Sun Belt merger?

This discussion should be fun ...

I'm not sure you know what the word "program" means. If "program" means one hit wonder that can't draw flies, you hit the nail on the head.

The Big East now has 9 CUSA teams, and CUSA has 8. I'm sure we still don't play anybody to hear the bammers tell it.

Shrug.

I think that the stability of the Big East is not something I'd like to be betting on. CUSA has its problems, sure... but the Big East? Yeesh.

I mean, parity is a bit much. The bottom dwellers and somewhat the mid (depending on the year) are on par, but the top teams of CUSA are still ahead, and quite a bit ahead some years. It should stay this way with the recruiting classes USM and ECU pulled down .

(02-10-2012 07:57 AM)Southern Miss Alum Wrote:  Since the C-USA/Sun Belt topic has been brought up ...

COLUMN: C-USA/Sun Belt merger?

This discussion should be fun ...

Well, the writer of that article is coming from the So. Alabama point of view. Yes that merger would be good for So. Alabama and the Sun Belt, not so good for the CUSA schools. He doesn't mention the better tv deal and bowls that CUSA has. Even sports writers apparently don't understand the idea of divisions and instead continue to harp on the travel "nightmare" that will haunt the Alliance. Multiple AD's in both the MWC and CUSA have stated how travel will not be affected due to competing within divisions. The Alliance is for the benefit of tv negotiations and stability.

(02-10-2012 03:52 AM)willhclark Wrote:  Once all the good programs are gone would C-USA or The Mountain Weak Conference not have parity with the Sun Belt?

Then the process of building begins anew and in 20 years we may well see UTSA or UAB as the new BCS busters or whatever the monoploy is called by then. Or perhaps they will further sub-divide FBS with the Big 6 conferences being Tier 1 and everyone else (C-USA, MWC, WAC, SunBelt, MAC) being Tier 2 with seperate playoffs and championships for each.


Either way I think UT, Alabama, USC, and a few others will find a way to screw the rest of us.

If they do split it, you can be assured that the BE will be in Tier 2.

CUSA is still light years ahead of the Sun Belt. Will has forgotten than his program, for all of their nice mid season football rankings, has done exactly JACK in ANY sport over the past couple decades.

One thing's for sure....you'll have to find a replacement for the term 'COOGing it!"


Southern Miss, ECU, and Tulsa good enough to be in most BCS leagues...Marshall ain't far off. Can you imagine those four programs with BCS money coming in? Southern is already better consistently than the two BCS programs in their state.