(02-07-2012 10:35 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  In regards to BYU... I think if the Big East gets to twelve members for 2013... then they can give BYU more of what they want in TV negotiations to get them too.

I think the fact they're working with Navy (for 2015 entry) around their 8 year CBS deal; shows they can work with BYU on tv rights for their home games for their own network. Remember, BYU athletic Director Tom Holmoe told the Desert News in November, in regards to negotiations ending with the Big East, "we told them that we could sign on right now if we had TV rights for our home games."

If Memphis and say Air Force become the 11th and 12th members (which looks more and more like a possibility now)... then Navy would become 13th or 14th for 2015. Navy's got TV baggage, it seems like as a 13th or 14th member BYU could also carry some baggage too and not be a drag on the deal, only add what it can to it!

(02-07-2012 09:51 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Why would Notre Dame care?

Probably because Notre Dame's AD Jack Swarbrick is the head of the Big East Expansion Committee and has been the guy crisscrossing the country meeting with the schools.

Keep in mind that once Navy's existing contract is over they will be fully integrated into the Big East's football rights. This was a concession they asked for so they could keep that revenue stream going to its conclusion.

(02-08-2012 08:29 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:51 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:30 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Sounds right.....you need to see if you can get AFA on board prior to the September negotiations. The BE should also be working on BYU. Ideally you get both for football only with one joining in 2015 with Navy.

Why AFA would want to continue to play in the new MWC makes no sense to me.

I am sure Navy and Notre Dame both are trying to get AFA to change their mind.

Why would Notre Dame care?

Because ND wants the Big East to be as strong as possible in football so that the conference survives. That way, ND can remain independent in football and play most of its other sports in the BE.

Who do you think is in charge of the Big East expansion committee?

Does anyone else find it odd that the ND AD heads the expansion committee? The way I see it, if they don't play Big East football, they should not be involved in choosing new football members.

ND should include 3 BE FB schools on their schedule even if ooc.
They get the BE brand in other sports so they should give back sometime.

(02-08-2012 08:52 AM)jam2112 Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 08:29 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:51 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:30 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Sounds right.....you need to see if you can get AFA on board prior to the September negotiations. The BE should also be working on BYU. Ideally you get both for football only with one joining in 2015 with Navy.

Why AFA would want to continue to play in the new MWC makes no sense to me.

I am sure Navy and Notre Dame both are trying to get AFA to change their mind.

Why would Notre Dame care?

Because ND wants the Big East to be as strong as possible in football so that the conference survives. That way, ND can remain independent in football and play most of its other sports in the BE.

Who do you think is in charge of the Big East expansion committee?

Does anyone else find it odd that the ND AD heads the expansion committee? The way I see it, if they don't play Big East football, they should not be involved in choosing new football members.

Jack Swarbrick and Father Jenkins did not take the lead by gunpoint.

They were voted by the conference presidents to head up the expansion committee.

Why do you think that occurred?

(02-07-2012 09:51 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Why would Notre Dame care?

The chair of the BE expansion committee is the AD at ND.

(02-08-2012 08:07 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 08:52 AM)jam2112 Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 08:29 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:51 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:30 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Sounds right.....you need to see if you can get AFA on board prior to the September negotiations. The BE should also be working on BYU. Ideally you get both for football only with one joining in 2015 with Navy.

Why AFA would want to continue to play in the new MWC makes no sense to me.
I am sure Navy and Notre Dame both are trying to get AFA to change their mind.

Why would Notre Dame care?

Because ND wants the Big East to be as strong as possible in football so that the conference survives. That way, ND can remain independent in football and play most of its other sports in the BE.
Who do you think is in charge of the Big East expansion committee?

Does anyone else find it odd that the ND AD heads the expansion committee? The way I see it, if they don't play Big East football, they should not be involved in choosing new football members.

Jack Swarbrick and Father Jenkins did not take the lead by gunpoint.
They were voted by the conference presidents to head up the expansion committee.
Why do you think that occurred?

Because the basketball schools and the football schools that think like basketball schools (Cuse and Conn) voted that way.

So should the BE
A) remain at 12/17
B) add two FB only to go to 14/17
C) add 1 fb only and one all sport to go to 14/18
D) add one non fb school 12/18
E) add 2 fb only and one non fb to go 14/18

(02-07-2012 10:41 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:21 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  We'll see what Marinatto says tomorrow, but from my chair:

Air Force becomes the #1 priority. All the rumors suggest that the Navy addition has made Air Force much more agreeable. And the "Alliance" losing Memphis might have an impact on Air Force.

If Air Force happens, then a final run will be made at BYU. If BYU does not want to join Air Force, Boise, Houston, SDSU, Navy etc., then the Big East has a decision to make among:

Temple
East Carolina
Fresno

Red, I have Navy as No. 11 and Memphis as No. 12. If the Big East adds Air Force, they would be No. 13 which almost dictates that you have to go to 14 and pick one of the remaining candidates.

When WV skips out this week Marinatto circles the wagons for Villanova again for 2012 if none of the new comers can move in for 2012.

2012 FB - Rutgers, UConn, Cinn, USF, L'Ville, NOVA, Pitt, Cuse.

2013 FB - All Sports - Rutgers, UConn, Cinn, USF, L'Ville, NOVA, UCF, Houston, SMU, Memphis. FB ONLY - Boise & SD St. (12 teams + a Championship Game).

2015 - Add Navy + BYU or Air Force FB only.

The waiting list still has Air Force if BYU is added, Temple, ECU and Army (long shot) if any other FB teams such as L'Ville, Rutgers, and UConn get invites to the ACC or B-12 depending on the B-12's next moves after WV joins them. The BE could remain a 12 teams by addition and subtraction dependent on the B12 / ACC moves, or go to 14 FB teams when Navy joins in 2015 if no one else leaves after WV, Pitt, and Cuse are gone.

(02-08-2012 10:13 PM)panite Wrote:  When WV skips out this week Marinatto circles the wagons for Villanova again for 2012 if none of the new comers can move in for 2012.

Umm isn't there a whole two year probational period to move up to Division 1 FBS... plus stadium requirements, scholarship levels, etc that they don't meet.

(02-08-2012 10:09 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  So should the BE
A) remain at 12/17
B) add two FB only to go to 14/17
C) add 1 fb only and one all sport to go to 14/18
D) add one non fb school 12/18
E) add 2 fb only and one non fb to go 14/18

The BE should split along bball only members and bball/fball playing members.

Nova can't join anytime soon. When Nova was seriously being considered nearly a year ago.....2014 was pushing it. 2015 or beyond was more likely.

My wishlist would include (in no particular order): BYU, ECU, UNR, AFA.

V

(02-08-2012 11:28 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  My wishlist would include (in no particular order): BYU, ECU, UNR, AFA.

What is UNR?

Nevada-Reno

(02-09-2012 12:00 AM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote:  V

(02-08-2012 11:28 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  My wishlist would include (in no particular order): BYU, ECU, UNR, AFA.

What is UNR?

University of Nevada Reno. The Wolfpack with whats his name..Kapernick or whatnot.

(02-08-2012 10:40 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 10:13 PM)panite Wrote:  When WV skips out this week Marinatto circles the wagons for Villanova again for 2012 if none of the new comers can move in for 2012.

Umm isn't there a whole two year probational period to move up to Division 1 FBS... plus stadium requirements, scholarship levels, etc that they don't meet.

But now that WVU and Pitt have left the conference, only Rutgers remains of the dissenting votes. If Marinatto can push it through quickly enough, the negatives probably won't matter - unless Rutgers can gain enough support to allow their negative stance hold the line against 'nova...

(02-09-2012 10:29 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 10:40 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 10:13 PM)panite Wrote:  When WV skips out this week Marinatto circles the wagons for Villanova again for 2012 if none of the new comers can move in for 2012.

Umm isn't there a whole two year probational period to move up to Division 1 FBS... plus stadium requirements, scholarship levels, etc that they don't meet.

But now that WVU and Pitt have left the conference, only Rutgers remains of the dissenting votes. If Marinatto can push it through quickly enough, the negatives probably won't matter - unless Rutgers can gain enough support to allow their negative stance hold the line against 'nova...

Honestly, I think Marinatto's plan should be just to drop back and punt. His attempts to save the conference on 3rd and long (30) have failed..He gained roughly 7 yards, 23 short of the first. Its 4th down, and this game of conference realignment is not over. Why risk a hailmary in the second quarter? Punt and regroup. The game will continue, the conference will still have a name....no teams of significance, but a name.

(02-07-2012 10:08 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 09:59 PM)TRest3 Wrote:  Or Memphis is in because Louisville is on the way out.

Could be, I believe UofL will leave, most likely right after the WVU is settled, Plus this is the addition that the BB onlies wouldn't hold their noses on and no one was really blocking, anymore atleast, WVU, Pitt, Cuse may have, WVU defently wanted strong FB additions. Those three aren't voting on additions anymore, so no votes against Memphis are gone it seems, so they go in now.

Thanks to you I cant read anything on these threads I just keep staring at Jennifer Tilly.