http://cfn.scout.com/2/1156688.html

NORTH
NIU
WMU
Toledo
Ohio
Marshall
ECU

SOUTH
Southern Miss
Tulane
UAB
Rice
Tulsa
UTEP

wouldn't it be easier for the mac to just take marshall and ecu and go to 16?
west: niu, ball state, wmu, cmu, emu, toledo, bg, miami
east: ecu, marshall, ohio, akron, kent, buffalo, temple, mass

(02-08-2012 11:04 AM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  wouldn't it be easier for the mac to just take marshall and ecu and go to 16?
west: niu, ball state, wmu, cmu, emu, toledo, bg, miami
east: ecu, marshall, ohio, akron, kent, buffalo, temple, mass

OR

west: niu, ball state, wmu, cmu, emu, toledo, bg, southern miss
east: ohio, miami, akron, kent, buffalo, temple, mass, ecu,

(02-08-2012 11:04 AM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  wouldn't it be easier for the mac to just take marshall and ecu and go to 16?
west: niu, ball state, wmu, cmu, emu, toledo, bg, miami
east: ecu, marshall, ohio, akron, kent, buffalo, temple, mass

No because we want to keep Miami's 2 fan a@@ out of it.

(02-08-2012 11:22 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 11:04 AM)e-bethMSU Wrote:  wouldn't it be easier for the mac to just take marshall and ecu and go to 16?
west: niu, ball state, wmu, cmu, emu, toledo, bg, miami
east: ecu, marshall, ohio, akron, kent, buffalo, temple, mass

No because we want to keep Miami's 2 fan a@@ out of it.

i don't know what this comment means

(02-08-2012 10:54 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://cfn.scout.com/2/1156688.html

NORTH
NIU
WMU
Toledo
Ohio
Marshall
ECU

SOUTH
Southern Miss
Tulane
UAB
Rice
Tulsa
UTEP

If we really want to play this game, UTEP and Rice (maybe even Tulsa) head to the Mountain West. Two, maybe three more MAC teams go into this conference. For that matter, make it a 14 team conference and add four, maybe five more MAC teams.


But realistically, I don't see it happening. There is potential for the MAC to lose a couple of teams, but I think that's it and the rest stay in the MAC, keeping it the "little engine that could." Small conference regionally close with very similar budgets and level of play on the field.

(02-08-2012 10:54 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://cfn.scout.com/2/1156688.html

NORTH
NIU
WMU
Toledo
Ohio
Marshall
ECU

SOUTH
Southern Miss
Tulane
UAB
Rice
Tulsa
UTEP

+1

CUSA is in a better position bowl wise than the MAC with a chance at signing the Independence, Belk and Go Daddy. Having Toledo, WMU along with Ohio and Marshall would probably give the conference the LCB.

Bowls

1) Sun (ACC is going to upgrade to Pinstripe)
2) Belk (with ECU should have a shot over the BE)
3) Independence (should be able to get this over the MWC)
4) Go Daddy (should be able to get this over the MAC)
5) Hawaii Bowl (vs. MWC)
6) LCB (vs. MAC Champ)

(02-08-2012 11:35 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 10:54 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://cfn.scout.com/2/1156688.html

NORTH
NIU
WMU
Toledo
Ohio
Marshall
ECU

SOUTH
Southern Miss
Tulane
UAB
Rice
Tulsa
UTEP

If we really want to play this game, UTEP and Rice (maybe even Tulsa) head to the Mountain West. Two, maybe three more MAC teams go into this conference. For that matter, make it a 14 team conference and add four, maybe five more MAC teams.


But realistically, I don't see it happening. There is potential for the MAC to lose a couple of teams, but I think that's it and the rest stay in the MAC, keeping it the "little engine that could." Small conference regionally close with very similar budgets and level of play on the field.

I can't see it either. The merger is still going to happen because 16 teams spanning East to West would have more collective TV/Bowl power than CUSA merging with a small MAC core.

this concept has been floating around these boards for at least 5 yrs now.
I agree UTEP ends up in MWC with NoTex, Tulsa also if Air Force joins BE.
AS for Merger: Rice, UAB & Tulane bring nothing to the table, East Car ends up in BE.
SoMiss & Marshall have no market. tough all these schools have some assets, none justify that footprint.

FIU. ArkSt & LousT become part of SW
Buff & Akron in NE

I've always respected WMU's football program. That would be a solid addition.

Yea cause the last time NIU went running to anohter conference it worked out really well..

(02-08-2012 10:54 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://cfn.scout.com/2/1156688.html

NORTH
NIU
WMU
Toledo
Ohio
Marshall
ECU

SOUTH
Southern Miss
Tulane
UAB
Rice
Tulsa
UTEP

Honestly why would any MAC team go to CUSA at this point? Aside from the half members, and even that is in question.

The money is not that much better, the travel is 100 times worse, enjoy sending you're womens tennis teams to El Paso, and the bowl situation has been getting better for the mack over the past couple of years.

(02-08-2012 12:09 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Yea cause the last time NIU went running to anohter conference it worked out really well..

(02-08-2012 10:54 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://cfn.scout.com/2/1156688.html

NORTH
NIU
WMU
Toledo
Ohio
Marshall
ECU

SOUTH
Southern Miss
Tulane
UAB
Rice
Tulsa
UTEP

Honestly why would any MAC team go to CUSA at this point? Aside from the half members, and even that is in question.

The money is not that much better, the travel is 100 times worse, enjoy sending you're womens tennis teams to El Paso, and the bowl situation has been getting better for the mack over the past couple of years.

What? The Big West conference was kicka**.

Seriously, it would have to make NIU think twice, even moreso than the other MAC schools. I agree, CUSA is not worth the added travel costs at this point.

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/34753656

Well, if the "alliance" is going through, why is CUSA calling Temple?

I think the MWC may nix the "alliance" CUSA is scrambling.

(02-08-2012 12:24 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/34753656

Well, if the "alliance" is going through, why is CUSA calling Temple?

I think the MWC may nix the "alliance" CUSA is scrambling.

And again, does Temple leave the A10 for CUSA? They would be idiots to do so at this point..

Leaving The MAC 2 Million Dollars, Leaving the A10 500 thousand, Increase in *gross* revenue 600K per year, sending every non revenue sport you have from PA to Texas, Alabama, and lord knows where else..... Priceless..

I just cant believe the Owls would bolt the A10 for CUSA so that leaves football only.

(02-08-2012 12:27 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 12:24 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/34753656

Well, if the "alliance" is going through, why is CUSA calling Temple?

I think the MWC may nix the "alliance" CUSA is scrambling.

And again, does Temple leave the A10 for CUSA? They would be idiots to do so at this point..

Leaving The MAC 2 Million Dollars, Leaving the A10 500 thousand, Increase in *gross* revenue 600K per year, sending every non revenue sport you have from PA to Texas, Alabama, and lord knows where else..... Priceless..

I just cant believe the Owls would bolt the A10 for CUSA so that leaves football only.

Don't forget that CUSA has their own buyout fee which is equivalent to paying 5 years worth of TV revenue.

Memphis has to pay CUSA 6.13 million to leave for the Big East. Why would Temple want to increase buyout fees by moving to CUSA?

McMurphy is by far the most accurate source. If Temple thought they had the BE invite in the bag and was stunned that Memphis was selected that means they are next in line. CUSA has long coveted Temple for many years so really contact news is nothing new on their front.

The only way the alliance can better itself at this point is to add a couple schools in the eastern timezone. FIU and Temple FB-Only would fit bit the bill but why would Temple want to double dip on buyout fees? The alliance may even want to raise its buyout to 10 or 15 million. It sounds like a risky move for Temple who doesn't plan to be in the alliance very long if they can help it.

The one big thing that CUSA has is better bowl tie ins. With 4 to 5 teams bowl eligible on a regular basis it would be nice if MAC teams didn't have to wait to pick up secondary bids.

(02-08-2012 12:09 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Yea cause the last time NIU went running to anohter conference it worked out really well..

(02-08-2012 10:54 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://cfn.scout.com/2/1156688.html

NORTH
NIU
WMU
Toledo
Ohio
Marshall
ECU

SOUTH
Southern Miss
Tulane
UAB
Rice
Tulsa
UTEP

Honestly why would any MAC team go to CUSA at this point? Aside from the half members, and even that is in question.

The money is not that much better, the travel is 100 times worse, enjoy sending you're womens tennis teams to El Paso, and the bowl situation has been getting better for the mack over the past couple of years.

(02-08-2012 12:37 PM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 12:27 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 12:24 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/34753656

Well, if the "alliance" is going through, why is CUSA calling Temple?

I think the MWC may nix the "alliance" CUSA is scrambling.

And again, does Temple leave the A10 for CUSA? They would be idiots to do so at this point..

Leaving The MAC 2 Million Dollars, Leaving the A10 500 thousand, Increase in *gross* revenue 600K per year, sending every non revenue sport you have from PA to Texas, Alabama, and lord knows where else..... Priceless..

I just cant believe the Owls would bolt the A10 for CUSA so that leaves football only.

Don't forget that CUSA has their own buyout fee which is equivalent to paying 5 years worth of TV revenue.

Memphis has to pay CUSA 6.13 million to leave for the Big East. Why would Temple want to increase buyout fees by moving to CUSA?

McMurphy is by far the most accurate source. If Temple thought they had the BE invite in the bag and was stunned that Memphis was selected that means they are next in line. CUSA has long coveted Temple for many years so really contact news is nothing new on their front.

The only way the alliance can better itself at this point is to add a couple schools in the eastern timezone. FIU and Temple FB-Only would fit bit the bill but why would Temple want to double dip on buyout fees? The alliance may even want to raise its buyout to 10 or 15 million. It sounds like a risky move for Temple who doesn't plan to be in the alliance very long if they can help it.

I think CUSA would at least have to lower their buyouts. Obviously it wasn't enough to keep teams from going to the Big East anyway. And no one will join a conference in flux with that kind of buyout fee.

(02-08-2012 12:09 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Yea cause the last time NIU went running to anohter conference it worked out really well..

(02-08-2012 10:54 AM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  http://cfn.scout.com/2/1156688.html

NORTH
NIU
WMU
Toledo
Ohio
Marshall
ECU

SOUTH
Southern Miss
Tulane
UAB
Rice
Tulsa
UTEP

Actually NIU left to go Independent, not join a conference. When that didn't work out they had to join the only conference they could get to take them in at the time.

(02-08-2012 02:16 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  Actually NIU left to go Independent, not join a conference. When that didn't work out they had to join the only conference they could get to take them in at the time.

Yep. That better describes the blunder.

LK: Your are funny...nah, you wouldn't want the MAC's all time winningest football program (Miami) in your new lil' conference, now would you?