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(02-04-2012 07:11 PM)58-56 Wrote:  They had better hope the atheists are right.

I wouldn't bet on them...

(02-04-2012 04:46 PM)blazr Wrote:  

(02-04-2012 10:41 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  The problem is the average Alabamian votes by school colors and keeps these retards in power. rtr

Exactly. Yes, the average Alabamian cares not one whit about the majority of what the BOT does. But when they see/hear/read anything negative against the Board or any group with Baby Bear named as a member, they perceive that as an attack on Bama. I'm not sure how many al.com comments we need to read or callers to Finebaum we need to hear before the message gets through that for nearly 70% of this state the BOT is "us" and UAB & UAH (plus their fans, supporters, and Aubies) are "them."

Taking UAB and UAH out of the argument. Do you honestly think the Bama to Auburn ratio in the state is 70-30? No doubt more Bama fans but not that wide of a gap.

(02-04-2012 07:22 PM)Matrix Wrote:  

(02-04-2012 07:11 PM)58-56 Wrote:  They had better hope the atheists are right.

I wouldn't bet on them...

The atheists, or the Gumps?

(02-04-2012 08:18 PM)stc Wrote:  

(02-04-2012 04:46 PM)blazr Wrote:  

(02-04-2012 10:41 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  The problem is the average Alabamian votes by school colors and keeps these retards in power. rtr

Exactly. Yes, the average Alabamian cares not one whit about the majority of what the BOT does. But when they see/hear/read anything negative against the Board or any group with Baby Bear named as a member, they perceive that as an attack on Bama. I'm not sure how many al.com comments we need to read or callers to Finebaum we need to hear before the message gets through that for nearly 70% of this state the BOT is "us" and UAB & UAH (plus their fans, supporters, and Aubies) are "them."

Taking UAB and UAH out of the argument. Do you honestly think the Bama to Auburn ratio in the state is 70-30? No doubt more Bama fans but not that wide of a gap.

You underestimate how many bandwagon Alabama fans there are. I mean after their 41st N.C. this year how couldn't casual fans become fans of the tide.

More Gump fans, but Barners have more teeth overall.

(02-04-2012 09:58 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(02-04-2012 09:20 AM)Pence Wrote:  Good. Keep shining the light.

At the same time, it's obvious they don't really care what we think.

They don't have to care. The public will not tolerate the media going after the BOT (which they perceive as being connected with THE university and, therefore, football) and any politician taking up the standard against the Cronies risks his/her job when the next election comes around.

So, blazr, what do you suggest UAB and UAH people do? Just take it? Or fight them? You seem like a naysayer.

The metro Jeffco area has always been considered by Auburn fans to be a Crimson Tide stronghold. That was their reasoning for pulling all but the Iron Bowl back to campus and later even that game was moved. At one time, occasionally Legion Field hosted an Alabama game at 1:00 and an Auburn game that night, or vice versa -- a double header. (The city was considered such a football "hotbed" that Miss State once played a night home game at Legion Field to get greater attendance.)

Montgomery is seen by many as an Auburn stronghold and Mobile also for awhile. There are other parts of the state that are seen by the "other side" as favoring the opposing school. In general, the farther north, the more crimson and the farther south, the more blue. Since both teams now play all their home games on their own campuses, this idea of area loyalty has really become a contentious issue for their fans around the state.

(02-04-2012 08:18 PM)stc Wrote:  Taking UAB and UAH out of the argument. Do you honestly think the Bama to Auburn ratio in the state is 70-30? No doubt more Bama fans but not that wide of a gap.

Yep. It was from polling done by an outside group in 2010. The question was intended to identify the percentage of the population in the state that are college football fans versus the numbers in the latest census on people with college degrees (they phrased the question that way to get a more truthful answer than just "Are you a college football fan?" - it didn't ask "Auburn or Alabama" specifically because they used the same study for every state, but it was worded so that people would answer most passionately...I posted it on the main board but it's too late - early - to go find the link).

(02-04-2012 11:35 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  

(02-04-2012 09:58 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(02-04-2012 09:20 AM)Pence Wrote:  Good. Keep shining the light.

At the same time, it's obvious they don't really care what we think.

They don't have to care. The public will not tolerate the media going after the BOT (which they perceive as being connected with THE university and, therefore, football) and any politician taking up the standard against the Cronies risks his/her job when the next election comes around.

So, blazr, what do you suggest UAB and UAH people do? Just take it? Or fight them? You seem like a naysayer.

Which UAB and UAH people? People like you and me? I would hope we fight in whatever way available to us...and whatever way seems appropriate. If you mean business leaders who might be sympathetic to our cause, they have a lot more to lose...I wouldn't attempt to suggest to them what they should personally risk.

If you mean people employed at UAH and UAB, now the amount to lose just increased a hundred fold. Most all of us know how they personally feel. Many have had no qualms posting on here what Dr. Garrison, for example, should do. Some have communicated that to her in writing. But if you were face to face with her then what would you demand that she put on the line right now? What if that meeting was not at her office but at her home?

We saw from St. John's candid and incredibly arrogant letter how these people react when unexpectedly threatened...and that's only what you saw in public. Now take it behind closed doors. Also take it from someone with decades experience navigating Alabama politics to the Gump listening to Finebaum that you want to support our cause.

So, in this case, what's a naysayer? Someone who thinks that if Garrison walked into a BOT meeting with $100 million cash and every TV camera and newspaper in tow the BOT as now constructed would still deny UAB an on-campus stadium? Then yes, I'm a naysayer. I also know that reconstructing the Board or splitting away, if either were to ever happen, is going to come at a bloody cost to UAB, UAH, or both...a cost from which, quite frankly, the schools may never recover. What is the endgame here, Dragon? We fight now because they are in our house. We pushed back a bit last Fall and they responded more forcefully than they should have been allowed to and that should not stand without protest. But the scenarios that I see here, with the odds of each...I just don't see an "official" path that leads to anything very pleasant for us or Huntsville.

We have to fight dirty behind the scenes. We must have political help and I am told that ball is rolling. You dare not say too much as they now watch this board after November.

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