There HAS to be a balance of quality and markets. that's why I'm proposing Ark St, LaTech + 5 more in large markets. Get CUSA to 16, forget about the merger and let the MWC have the WAC. The MWC has EVERYTHING to gain in this merger, certainly more than we do. CUSA has more markets. I guess you can make the argument that the merger would be a better basketball conference than we have now because of UNLV and UNM.

Honestly there isn't a good option but I think long term we're better off expanding separately and closing some gaps. the merger won't be a long term deal anyway.

(01-24-2012 09:52 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  There HAS to be a balance of quality and markets. that's why I'm proposing Ark St, LaTech + 5 more in large markets. Get CUSA to 16, forget about the merger and let the MWC have the WAC. The MWC has EVERYTHING to gain in this merger, certainly more than we do. CUSA has more markets. I guess you can make the argument that the merger would be a better basketball conference than we have now because of UNLV and UNM.

Honestly there isn't a good option but I think long term we're better off expanding separately. the merger won't be a long term deal anyway.

You admit there are no good options. So why add a bad La Tech and ASU team with no market? They offer NOTHING.

They're the conference champs of the WAC and SBC, that's why. They're light years ahead of Memphis, UAB and Tulane in football success on the field right now. Hell, Ark St throttled Memphis this year. Both have commited to hiring / extending contract with great coaches. With all their flaws that is still a fact. Sure they don't have a lot of history but they appear to be turning the corner.

(01-24-2012 09:17 AM)PATiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 09:16 AM)Observer Wrote:  It would not be unfair to include Monroe, Minden and even Shreveport in La Tech's viewing area. That is substantially more than 59,000.

It would be a lie to claim Monroe, where ULM is located.

Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

Wait. Hold up. Tech is restricted to Ruston, and therefore can't claim Monroe (even though that is our designated TV Market), but you concede that UNT --- which I agree is certainly worthy of CUSA consideration also --- brings ALLLL of DFW??!!! Let's at least be FAIR, PATiger.

If Denton, Texas is to be included in the DFW DMA...as it certainly is...then Ruston, LA (and Lincoln Parish) is most certainly to be included in the Monroe/El Dorado DMA.

Look man, you certainly have the liberty to criticize my University and its short-comings all you want. But try to be fair with the criticism. I just believe if you're going to say it's good for A, it should be good for B-Z.

(01-24-2012 10:00 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  They're the conference champs of the WAC and SBC, that's why. They're light years ahead of Memphis, UAB and Tulane in football success on the field right now. Hell, Ark St throttled Memphis this year. Both have commited to hiring / extending contract with great coaches. With all their flaws that is still a fact. Sure they don't have a lot of history but they appear to be turning the corner.

One year. You don't base adding a school on one year.

Do you have any idea who Ark State just hired as their HC?

(01-24-2012 10:02 AM)BarkonDawgs Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 09:17 AM)PATiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 09:16 AM)Observer Wrote:  It would not be unfair to include Monroe, Minden and even Shreveport in La Tech's viewing area. That is substantially more than 59,000.

It would be a lie to claim Monroe, where ULM is located.

Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

Wait. Hold up. Tech is restricted to Ruston, and therefore can't claim Monroe (even though that is our designated TV Market), but you concede that UNT --- which I agree is certainly worthy of CUSA consideration also --- brings ALLLL of DFW??!!! Let's at least be FAIR, PATiger.

If Denton, Texas is to be included in the DFW DMA...as it certainly is...then Ruston, LA (and Lincoln Parish) is most certainly to be included in the Monroe/El Dorado DMA.

Look man, you certainly have the liberty to criticize my University and its short-comings all you want. But try to be fair with the criticism. I just believe if you're going to say it's good for A, it should be good for B-Z.

Denton County has 662,614 people. That's more than Lincoln, Jackson, Morehouse, Ouachita, and Union parishes COMBINED.

(01-24-2012 10:11 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  Do you have any idea who Ark State just hired as their HC?

Yeah. A guy trying to distance himself from an NCAA investigation at Auburn. A guy whose wife torpedoed any chance of him getting a good job.

(01-24-2012 10:12 AM)PATiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 10:11 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  Do you have any idea who Ark State just hired as their HC?

Yeah. A guy trying to distance himself from an NCAA investigation at Auburn. A guy whose wife torpedoed any chance of him getting a good job.

And???? How does that affect his ability to coach? Seems like Memphis fans are scared of both Ark St and LaTech if you ask me.

(01-24-2012 10:15 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 10:12 AM)PATiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 10:11 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  Do you have any idea who Ark State just hired as their HC?

Yeah. A guy trying to distance himself from an NCAA investigation at Auburn. A guy whose wife torpedoed any chance of him getting a good job.

And???? How does that affect his ability to coach? Seems like Memphis fans are scared of both Ark St and LaTech if you ask me.

The only thing we're scared of is the amount of welfare we'd have to pay them after they torpedoed our television contracts.

(01-24-2012 10:15 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 10:12 AM)PATiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 10:11 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  Do you have any idea who Ark State just hired as their HC?

Yeah. A guy trying to distance himself from an NCAA investigation at Auburn. A guy whose wife torpedoed any chance of him getting a good job.

And???? How does that affect his ability to coach? Seems like Memphis fans are scared of both Ark St and LaTech if you ask me.

No.

We're fixing our football situation. We've all got areas that need improvement.

Throwing rocks at each other doesn't bring anything to the discussion, we've all got weak areas.

(01-24-2012 09:17 AM)PATiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 09:16 AM)Observer Wrote:  It would not be unfair to include Monroe, Minden and even Shreveport in La Tech's viewing area. That is substantially more than 59,000.

It would be a lie to claim Monroe, where ULM is located.

Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

Rice and Houston are both in Houston. Which one gets to claim the market? Monroe is less than a half hour drive along I-20 from Ruston, close enough to Ruston for Monroe to be considered in their market. I know many of the residents of Monroe think so. I think you need to spend some time in N. Louisiana before you begin to speculate on who is actually embarrassing themselves.

(01-24-2012 12:49 PM)Observer Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 09:17 AM)PATiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 09:16 AM)Observer Wrote:  It would not be unfair to include Monroe, Minden and even Shreveport in La Tech's viewing area. That is substantially more than 59,000.

It would be a lie to claim Monroe, where ULM is located.

Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

Rice and Houston are both in Houston. Which one gets to claim the market? Monroe is less than a half hour drive along I-20 from Ruston, close enough to Ruston for Monroe to be considered in their market. I know many of the residents of Monroe think so. I think you need to spend some time in N. Louisiana before you begin to speculate on who is actually embarrassing themselves.

Been there many times. You are the one who should be embarrassed.

I was born and raised in Monroe. Most fans recently have been on the LSU bandwagon (like most of the state). The rest are probably 50/50 between Tech/ULM. But most college football fans in Louisiana tune in to a La Tech game, unless their team is playing at the same time.

(01-24-2012 09:09 AM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 09:04 AM)PATiger Wrote:  Even if La Tech had 100% of their market and UNT and FIU only had 2% of theirs, UNT and FIU would still have more people watching them on television than La Tech.

Simply wrong.

Have a glance at the TV ratings for all of Tech's ESPN games.

actually, that's statistically true...Tech doesn't have a market...

How has this not been moved yet? The first post was smack!

(01-23-2012 11:41 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Louisiana Tech

2010 Endowment - $51,878,741 (source: US News and World Report)

That is incredibly low and can't be right. They must have some other sources of investment not counted for some reason.

(01-24-2012 01:34 PM)uhcoog27 Wrote:  

(01-23-2012 11:41 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Louisiana Tech

2010 Endowment - $51,878,741 (source: US News and World Report)

That is incredibly low and can't be right. They must have some other sources of investment not counted for some reason.

Marshall's in only around $70 mill and Southern Miss' around $81 mill.

(01-24-2012 01:45 PM)Its The Talons Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 01:34 PM)uhcoog27 Wrote:  

(01-23-2012 11:41 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Louisiana Tech

2010 Endowment - $51,878,741 (source: US News and World Report)

That is incredibly low and can't be right. They must have some other sources of investment not counted for some reason.

Marshall's in only around $70 mill and Southern Miss' around $81 mill.

It's right. La Tech would be in dead last and it wouldn't be close.

(01-24-2012 02:10 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 01:45 PM)Its The Talons Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 01:34 PM)uhcoog27 Wrote:  

(01-23-2012 11:41 PM)PATiger Wrote:  Louisiana Tech

2010 Endowment - $51,878,741 (source: US News and World Report)

That is incredibly low and can't be right. They must have some other sources of investment not counted for some reason.

Marshall's in only around $70 mill and Southern Miss' around $81 mill.

It's right. La Tech would be in dead last and it wouldn't be close.

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The NET ASSETS of the Louisiana Tech University Foundation at end of last fiscal year, 6-30-2011, was $34,660,035. Source (Heard, McElroy, & Vestal Certified Public Accountants of Shreveport, La, as reported to the Louisiana State Legislative Auditor on 9-7-2011). One can accept the local cpa firms audit or that of the U.S. News & World Report, take your choice. Edit note: The KPMG LLP cpa firm of Jackson, Ms reported the USM Foundation had NET ASSETS as of 6-30-2011 in the amount of $88,967,814.