(01-14-2012 03:58 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 10:18 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  MD and NJ are smaller states so the quantity is not there,

Yes, I think I wrote exactly that.

Which is why it's nuts for a relatively distant state to try to start recruiting here (as in I live in Maryland) and compete against UMd, Rutgers, Pitt, Temple, PSU, UVa, Syracuse and Buffalo (and other MAC teams) as well as Towson, Princeton, Delaware, Villanova, Columbia, Cornell, Lehigh and perhaps even Delaware St.

Meanwhile, UMaine has a competitive IAA team every year, and the rest of NE has a population that should be tapped into.

D-1 recruits per state including ratio of recruits/total players in state

(01-14-2012 03:58 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 10:18 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  MD and NJ are smaller states so the quantity is not there,

Yes, I think I wrote exactly that.

Which is why it's nuts for a relatively distant state to try to start recruiting here (as in I live in Maryland) and compete against UMd, Rutgers, Pitt, Temple, PSU, UVa, Syracuse and Buffalo (and other MAC teams) as well as Towson, Princeton, Delaware, Villanova, Columbia, Cornell, Lehigh and perhaps even Delaware St.

Meanwhile, UMaine has a competitive IAA team every year, and the rest of NE has a population that should be tapped into.

Not sure why it's nuts when Toledo is much further away and their last two starting running backs came from New Jersey. As for Maryland, there is some good talent that slips through the cracks. I live in Virginia, but know some high school coaches in Maryland and I've seen some film on kids that struggled to get a DI FBS look and they were just as good if not better than the average MAC recruit.

(01-14-2012 04:28 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:58 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 10:18 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  MD and NJ are smaller states so the quantity is not there,

Yes, I think I wrote exactly that.

Which is why it's nuts for a relatively distant state to try to start recruiting here (as in I live in Maryland) and compete against UMd, Rutgers, Pitt, Temple, PSU, UVa, Syracuse and Buffalo (and other MAC teams) as well as Towson, Princeton, Delaware, Villanova, Columbia, Cornell, Lehigh and perhaps even Delaware St.

Meanwhile, UMaine has a competitive IAA team every year, and the rest of NE has a population that should be tapped into.

Not sure why it's nuts when Toledo is much further away and their last two starting running backs came from New Jersey. As for Maryland, there is some good talent that slips through the cracks. I live in Virginia, but know some high school coaches in Maryland and I've seen some film on kids that struggled to get a DI FBS look and they were just as good if not better than the average MAC recruit.

Brian,

You are correct regarding the talent in the mid-atlantic region. A lot of talent ends up slipping to FCS unlike in Ohio. Ohio has so many MAC programs that take that lower level D-1A talent. However, in the mid-atlantic most of that talent ends up in the CAA which is always a strong FCS conference...

(01-14-2012 04:56 PM)templefan1 Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 04:28 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:58 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 10:18 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  MD and NJ are smaller states so the quantity is not there,

Yes, I think I wrote exactly that.

Which is why it's nuts for a relatively distant state to try to start recruiting here (as in I live in Maryland) and compete against UMd, Rutgers, Pitt, Temple, PSU, UVa, Syracuse and Buffalo (and other MAC teams) as well as Towson, Princeton, Delaware, Villanova, Columbia, Cornell, Lehigh and perhaps even Delaware St.

Meanwhile, UMaine has a competitive IAA team every year, and the rest of NE has a population that should be tapped into.

Not sure why it's nuts when Toledo is much further away and their last two starting running backs came from New Jersey. As for Maryland, there is some good talent that slips through the cracks. I live in Virginia, but know some high school coaches in Maryland and I've seen some film on kids that struggled to get a DI FBS look and they were just as good if not better than the average MAC recruit.

Brian,

You are correct regarding the talent in the mid-atlantic region. A lot of talent ends up slipping to FCS unlike in Ohio. Ohio has so many MAC programs that take that lower level D-1A talent. However, in the mid-atlantic most of that talent ends up in the CAA which is always a strong FCS conference...

That will change the day, whenever it is, that Delaware, JMU, ODU, Charlotte, etc. decide to move up to FBS.

(01-14-2012 04:04 PM)templefan1 Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:58 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 10:18 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  MD and NJ are smaller states so the quantity is not there,

Yes, I think I wrote exactly that.

Which is why it's nuts for a relatively distant state to try to start recruiting here (as in I live in Maryland) and compete against UMd, Rutgers, Pitt, Temple, PSU, UVa, Syracuse and Buffalo (and other MAC teams) as well as Towson, Princeton, Delaware, Villanova, Columbia, Cornell, Lehigh and perhaps even Delaware St.

Meanwhile, UMaine has a competitive IAA team every year, and the rest of NE has a population that should be tapped into.

D-1 recruits per state including ratio of recruits/total players in state

I find it hard to believe that PA only has 16K players. They're pretty serious about football there.

Nevertheless, NH, RI, and VT remain untapped, and ME almost as such.

(01-14-2012 06:58 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 04:04 PM)templefan1 Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:58 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 10:18 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  MD and NJ are smaller states so the quantity is not there,

Yes, I think I wrote exactly that.

Which is why it's nuts for a relatively distant state to try to start recruiting here (as in I live in Maryland) and compete against UMd, Rutgers, Pitt, Temple, PSU, UVa, Syracuse and Buffalo (and other MAC teams) as well as Towson, Princeton, Delaware, Villanova, Columbia, Cornell, Lehigh and perhaps even Delaware St.

Meanwhile, UMaine has a competitive IAA team every year, and the rest of NE has a population that should be tapped into.

D-1 recruits per state including ratio of recruits/total players in state

I find it hard to believe that PA only has 16K players. They're pretty serious about football there.

For the most part, outside of Pittsburgh and Philly the state of Pennsylvania is very rural.

(01-14-2012 09:33 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-13-2012 09:53 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  Sent a contact email to ESPN and neither site lists UMass.
We'll have 20 recruits on campus this weekend. Charley Molnar made many interesting comments but on recruiting, comments that he will focus on Massachusetts first, then down to New Jersey and Maryland and then the East Coast.

Ever seen players from MD or NJ? Yes, there is the occasional Ron Dayne or Darnell Dockett, but neither state produces a lot of football talent.

Better off trying to be the premier New England program, and recruit MA, ME NY, PA heavily, try to develop some network FL and CA, and find the occasional gem from CT, VT, RI, NH.

Uhh MD and NJ put out alot more talent than u think. Good number of big time recruits from NJ every season so im not sure what your talking about.

NJ has more NFL players than MI, IL, VA, SC, NC, AL, TN, and MS. You probably shouldn't laugh.

(01-15-2012 03:25 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  NJ has more NFL players than MI, IL, VA, SC, NC, AL, TN, and MS. You probably shouldn't laugh.

When you factor in NJ, PA, and MD/DC, Northern VA...you have a very good recruiting area to tap if you are a MAC level program. Sure, the BCS schools take a lot of the big talent. In the case of Temple, there really isn't a lot of competition for the MAC level talent. If the CAA ever goes D-1A, that will change and the amount of FBS recruits will jump in the Mid-Atlantic region...

(01-14-2012 06:58 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 04:04 PM)templefan1 Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:58 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 10:18 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  MD and NJ are smaller states so the quantity is not there,

Yes, I think I wrote exactly that.

Which is why it's nuts for a relatively distant state to try to start recruiting here (as in I live in Maryland) and compete against UMd, Rutgers, Pitt, Temple, PSU, UVa, Syracuse and Buffalo (and other MAC teams) as well as Towson, Princeton, Delaware, Villanova, Columbia, Cornell, Lehigh and perhaps even Delaware St.

Meanwhile, UMaine has a competitive IAA team every year, and the rest of NE has a population that should be tapped into.

D-1 recruits per state including ratio of recruits/total players in state

I find it hard to believe that PA only has 16K players. They're pretty serious about football there.

Nevertheless, NH, RI, and VT remain untapped, and ME almost as such.

PA has 26,000+

Recruiting services are projecting over 400 Division 1 FB signees in Florida this year.

Akron's recruiting is picking up, now that we have a coach that knows what he's doing. Rob Ianello was a pretty terrible recruiter when he didn't have a rand name school and a better head coach than himself to sell the players on.

(01-15-2012 03:05 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  Akron's recruiting is picking up, now that we have a coach that knows what he's doing. Rob Ianello was a pretty terrible recruiter when he didn't have a rand name school and a better head coach than himself to sell the players on.

I'll guess that Akron's class will have a southern twang to it.

(01-15-2012 03:08 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 03:05 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  Akron's recruiting is picking up, now that we have a coach that knows what he's doing. Rob Ianello was a pretty terrible recruiter when he didn't have a rand name school and a better head coach than himself to sell the players on.

I'll guess that Akron's class will have a southern twang to it.

Coach Bowden's recent recruits are all from Ohio. Out of the 14 commitments, the farthest south anyone is is from New Jersey. We haven't even offered anyone from Florida or the South, dad-gummit.

(01-15-2012 03:36 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 03:08 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 03:05 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  Akron's recruiting is picking up, now that we have a coach that knows what he's doing. Rob Ianello was a pretty terrible recruiter when he didn't have a rand name school and a better head coach than himself to sell the players on.

I'll guess that Akron's class will have a southern twang to it.

Coach Bowden's recent recruits are all from Ohio. Out of the 14 commitments, the farthest south anyone is is from New Jersey. We haven't even offered anyone from Florida or the South, dad-gummit.

I'd be surprised if that doesn't change by signing day. Wasn't he most recently in Alabama? I would expect to see at least a few AL & MS recruits in your recruiting class.

(01-15-2012 10:51 AM)templefan1 Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 03:25 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  NJ has more NFL players than MI, IL, VA, SC, NC, AL, TN, and MS. You probably shouldn't laugh.

When you factor in NJ, PA, and MD/DC, Northern VA...you have a very good recruiting area to tap if you are a MAC level program.

Uh huh. That's why UMd and UVa have been such powerhouses lately.

Of course I actually live in the area that we're talking about, so I'm sure some guy from Mass knows it far more than I.

We picked up another Mass kid, Vondell Langston. ESPN 2 star grade 74.

From Boston ESPN page.

Quote:Everett High senior running back/linebacker Vondell Langston told ESPNBoston.com this afternoon that he has verbally committed to UMass for the fall of 2012.

New UMass tight ends coach Shane Waldron walked into Everett High's athletic office at the end of the school day Friday and told Langston that a scholarship offer was on the table for him. It was the first scholarship offer for Langston -- who said he also had the Minutemen high on his list under former coach Kevin Morris -- and the 6-foot-1, 210-pounder wasted no time accepting the offer right on the spot.

link

(01-15-2012 09:31 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 10:51 AM)templefan1 Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 03:25 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  NJ has more NFL players than MI, IL, VA, SC, NC, AL, TN, and MS. You probably shouldn't laugh.

When you factor in NJ, PA, and MD/DC, Northern VA...you have a very good recruiting area to tap if you are a MAC level program.

Uh huh. That's why UMd and UVa have been such powerhouses lately.

Of course I actually live in the area that we're talking about, so I'm sure some guy from Mass knows it far more than I.

He probably does, he is coaching football for a living...

Just because UVA and UMD have had a couple of bad years doesn't mean the talent isn't there in those states. It may mean they just weren't getting the talent. PSU, WVU, VT, Pitt, Rutgers and most of the BE and ACC recruits those areas...

I will stand by it that there is a lot of MAC level talent in those areas that currently go to JMU, ODU, Del, and other CAA schools...

The ACC has underperformed in football the talent is there. From another thread the ACC has the 2nd highest number of NFL players despite the ACC's poor showing. SO it would not surprise me if those states are producing talent but it is not giving them wins.

(01-15-2012 09:31 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 10:51 AM)templefan1 Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 03:25 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  NJ has more NFL players than MI, IL, VA, SC, NC, AL, TN, and MS. You probably shouldn't laugh.

When you factor in NJ, PA, and MD/DC, Northern VA...you have a very good recruiting area to tap if you are a MAC level program.

Uh huh. That's why UMd and UVa have been such powerhouses lately.

Of course I actually live in the area that we're talking about, so I'm sure some guy from Mass knows it far more than I.

Torch, I live in the area too and know several high school coaches. The feeling from the high school coaches for a long time has been that Maryland doesn't do a good job of recruiting their best talent. That is why they have not been very good. Virginia, well it's Virginia. They have some pretty high academic standards and Virginia Tech is going to get many of the better prospects from the DC area over Virginia for two reasons, football name recognition and many of the more marginal academic kids can get into VaTech but not Virginia. Of course Virginia has also been stupid for many years and not offered many good players in their own backyard.

Perfect example is Ryan Williams from Manassas, VA. A lot of people wanted this kid out of high school and he was a 4 star prospect. Maryland offered, but wasn't even a factor. Virginia didn't even offer. It came down to Virginia Tech, Boston College, and Notre Dame and he chose VaTech. He skipped his senior season and was drafted in the NFL.

Look at VaTech's roster. It is full of kids from VA, MD, and DC.