(01-12-2012 05:09 AM)emu79 Wrote:  The two most glaring needs are a shooting guard and a point guard. We turn the ball over and over again. Look at NIU and this game and count the turnovers especially from the "point" guards.

The SG will come October 15, 2012 with Harrison becoming eligible.

I still say Ray Lee could be a big pick up because he can control a game and play the two positions you cite, PG and SG.

(01-11-2012 09:46 PM)emu steve Wrote:  BTW, Riley had a good game.

Five points, 10 rebounds, and two blocks in 26 minutes.

(Balkema had the other 14 minutes).

If I lived in Michigan I'd go to the games just to watch Riley develop.

He is going to be a good one.

If 5 points meets your standards for a "good game," you have low standards. Got to hand it to you, you are easily pleased.

I'm willing to be more patient with Riley Bob he has this year and then two more, I'd like to see slow but steady improvement in his stats this year.

As to Harrison and Bryant next year and their production? I would expect them to improve rebounding and hopefully scoring.

(01-12-2012 07:50 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I'm willing to be more patient with Riley Bob he has this year and then two more, I'd like to see slow but steady improvement in his stats this year.

As to Harrison and Bryant next year and their production? I would expect them to improve rebounding and hopefully scoring.

I get that and I understand that Riley is a work in progress but let's not forget, this guy was highly coveted coming out of high school, he played for Syracuse, he is a legitimate 7 footer. On what planet could 5 points, 10 boards, 2 blocks against a subpar team be considered a good game? Will he get better? I believe he will, but he is not there yet.

I think Harrison is going to be a good scorer next year and Bryant is very athletic. I am expecting good things of those 3 playing together next year.

Two quick thoughts:

1) Riley is not a focal point for the offense at this time. The offense doesn't go through him and on the plays where he ends up with the ball he is almost immediately double teamed.

2) The atmosphere in the Convo was great last night. The student section being moved has really helped add to the noise factor. Although I'm not a fan of the "Bull sh#*" chant that has become standard on unfavorable calls. Not exactly what I want my 1 and 3 year old to hear.

(01-12-2012 07:45 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 09:46 PM)emu steve Wrote:  BTW, Riley had a good game.

Five points, 10 rebounds, and two blocks in 26 minutes.

(Balkema had the other 14 minutes).

If I lived in Michigan I'd go to the games just to watch Riley develop.

He is going to be a good one.

If 5 points meets your standards for a "good game," you have low standards. Got to hand it to you, you are easily pleased.

I have a good friend who coined the term: "Things"

Things for a center are: Sum of points + rebounds + blocks.

Rebounds + blocks are pretty valuable for a center.

That said, as others have suggested, and from what I can see, Riley's problems on offense are not his problems but a bogged down offense which does not lend itself to many easy points.

Riley should have two dunks a game and he'll never get it with this offense.

I'd like to see him get 2 dunks, 2 other FBs, and say 2 FTs. Ten points is fine for him.

I'd love to see him become another Zeke Marshall (Arkon) who as a junior is developing nicely.

(01-11-2012 09:32 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 08:04 PM)EMUAARON Wrote:  Whoa! Derek Thompson is no longer on the team.

Who broke the story?

Chad Bush mentioned it on air.

(01-12-2012 08:45 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-12-2012 07:45 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 09:46 PM)emu steve Wrote:  BTW, Riley had a good game.

Five points, 10 rebounds, and two blocks in 26 minutes.

(Balkema had the other 14 minutes).

If I lived in Michigan I'd go to the games just to watch Riley develop.

He is going to be a good one.

If 5 points meets your standards for a "good game," you have low standards. Got to hand it to you, you are easily pleased.

I have a good friend who coined the term: "Things"

Things for a center are: Sum of points + rebounds + blocks.

Rebounds + blocks are pretty valuable for a center.

That said, as others have suggested, and from what I can see, Riley's problems on offense are not his problems but a bogged down offense which does not lend itself to many easy points.

Riley should have two dunks a game and he'll never get it with this offense.

I'd like to see him get 2 dunks, 2 other FBs, and say 2 FTs. Ten points is fine for him.

I'd love to see him become another Zeke Marshall (Arkon) who as a junior is developing nicely.

You're probably right. In a lot of ways, Murphy's offense is as responsible for holding Riley to 5 points as much as CMU. I hope he doesn't get frustrated. I'm a supporter of coach Murphy, but a team starving for points could really use a 7 footer getting some easy buckets. I don't know if a 5 foot jump hook is in Riley's repotoire yet, but I have to believe it is and it is a much higher percentage shot than having guards launch jumpers. Not to mention, getting the big guy to the line on a consistent basis would really help.

Agree, Bob.

I just hope Riley, Bryant and Harrison can understand the concept of "delay of gratification'. Sometimes waiting is all one can do.

It will come NEXT season.

I don't know what it will take to turbo charge the offense but I don't see it coming this year.

If we start jacking up threes, the other team will get the rebounds and run like hell on us.

We definitely need a fast break offense to get Riley some easy, exciting points.

As others have indicated, it is so EASY for the other team to double Riley and force us to shot the trey which is 'easier said than done' on this team.

I have high hopes for next season.

(01-12-2012 08:18 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(01-12-2012 07:50 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I'm willing to be more patient with Riley Bob he has this year and then two more, I'd like to see slow but steady improvement in his stats this year.

As to Harrison and Bryant next year and their production? I would expect them to improve rebounding and hopefully scoring.

I get that and I understand that Riley is a work in progress but let's not forget, this guy was highly coveted coming out of high school, he played for Syracuse, he is a legitimate 7 footer. On what planet could 5 points, 10 boards, 2 blocks against a subpar team be considered a good game? Will he get better? I believe he will, but he is not there yet.

one thing about Riley is he was highly touted, but there were still major question marks about him in HS. does he care? can he play tough? what will it be like when he goes up against guys the same size? he was a guy with all the tools but still question marks.

(01-12-2012 09:45 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  You're probably right. In a lot of ways, Murphy's offense is as responsible for holding Riley to 5 points as much as CMU. I hope he doesn't get frustrated. I'm a supporter of coach Murphy, but a team starving for points could really use a 7 footer getting some easy buckets. I don't know if a 5 foot jump hook is in Riley's repotoire yet, but I have to believe it is and it is a much higher percentage shot than having guards launch jumpers. Not to mention, getting the big guy to the line on a consistent basis would really help.

i hear you Bob. Like you and Steve are saying, teams are doubling Riley right away. No offense to Green, Dailey and Strickland, but other teams know they're shooting a low percentage on 3s, so defenders slack off of those guys. once we have a couple players hitting outside shots we'll know what our bigs are capable of. it's impossible to get the ball inside when the defenders aren't concerned about you shooting an open 3.

(01-12-2012 09:40 AM)EMUAARON Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 09:32 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 08:04 PM)EMUAARON Wrote:  Whoa! Derek Thompson is no longer on the team.

Who broke the story?

Chad Bush mentioned it on air.

I did not hear Chad mention it. My bad, I missed it and therefore take back my criticism of Chad and Jeff. I did however, hear him mention EMUAaron on the air! Aaron, you got a little airtime, congrats. : )

(01-12-2012 10:03 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(01-12-2012 09:40 AM)EMUAARON Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 09:32 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 08:04 PM)EMUAARON Wrote:  Whoa! Derek Thompson is no longer on the team.

Who broke the story?

Chad Bush mentioned it on air.

I did not hear Chad mention it. My bad, I missed it and therefore take back my criticism of Chad and Jeff. I did however, hear him mention EMUAaron on the air! Aaron, you got a little airtime, congrats. : )

haha! thanks. it was great to hear my name on the air.

they mentioned it early in the first half but didn't offer an explanation. i don't expect to find out what happened through the normal channels (SID, radio, etc) but maybe Dennis or Steve will find out and drop a friendly message on here.

TRYING TO FIND OUT BUT MURPHY AND STAFF ARE PRETTY TIGHT LIPPED ABOUT THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM. DOUBT WE'LL EVER FIND OUT THE REAL REASON.

I WILL SAY THAT THE KD HAS BEEN A DISSAPOINTMENT IN MY MIND AND HAS BEE GETTING LESS AND LESS PT. I'M SURE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THE STARTING PERIMETER PLAYERS ARE NOW: LAMPLEY, HARPER AND STRICKLAND (A WALK ON)

BEING TIGHT LIPPED PROVIDES VERY LITTLE PR ABOUT THE B BALL PROGRAM AND RECRUITING AS WELL. AYONE HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS SUBJECT?

A LOT OF OTHER PROGRAMS HAVE EBSITES DEVOTED TO THE TEAM AND RECRUITING IN PARTICULAR.

Repetitive but true, in my opinion we will only see great improvement next year when we get a point guard who takes care of the ball and is an outside scoring threat. Is Ross that guy? Lee might fit the bill but are bigger schools going to be after him if he has a solid senior season?

(01-12-2012 11:00 AM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  A LOT OF OTHER PROGRAMS HAVE EBSITES DEVOTED TO THE TEAM AND RECRUITING IN PARTICULAR.

What this is, as I'm sure most know, is a FAN, NOT associated with the school who takes on the role of publisher, editor, moderator or whatever term one wants to use of the website.

It only makes sense if the person has the abilities, interest, energies, etc. to do it.

The success of the site is dependent on that person's abilities to get all the information which is hard to obtain.

We apparently don't have any such person.

Scout.com would love to have such a person for the EMU site.

Most of the Scout.com recruiting analysts don't post on the EMU site because it is virtually dead.

(01-11-2012 10:05 PM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  Thanks Superfan

Being a keen observer what do you think Murphy and Co need recruiting wise???

Guards big time

(01-12-2012 01:25 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 10:05 PM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  Thanks Superfan

Being a keen observer what do you think Murphy and Co need recruiting wise???

Guards big time

October 15, 2012.

(01-12-2012 01:25 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 10:05 PM)Dennis Hoopster Wrote:  Thanks Superfan

Being a keen observer what do you think Murphy and Co need recruiting wise???

Guards big time

Agree 100%, doesn't seem like our guards are quick enough, very little penetration and suspect shooters. Way too many turnovers.

(01-12-2012 09:40 AM)EMUAARON Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 09:32 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-11-2012 08:04 PM)EMUAARON Wrote:  Whoa! Derek Thompson is no longer on the team.

Who broke the story?

Chad Bush mentioned it on air.

Derek is a very good student and I heard a very good person, so I'd toss out academics and personal conduct in a heartbeat.

Second semester started this week and maybe he isn't going to be a student this semester.

I wonder if Derek is dropping out of school for a semester, or completely or heaven forbid changing schools.

If he was transferring again he should not have played beyond the end of 1st semester, I believe.

The only thing I can guess, is that he transferred home because of family health issues.

For a player with a family member being seriously ill being a student, player and son is a pretty full plate.