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One of the WVU boards is filled with rumors about the Mountaineers upcoming football vistit to UC being moved to Paul Brown Staduim....UC fans...have you been hearing this too?


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02-13-2005 08:49 PM
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Sorry, when I first saw the tag I thought that the game would be shown between the Lawrence Welk Show and Masterpiece Theater. :laugh:
02-13-2005 08:58 PM
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I was scratching my head with that one as well. Since when does Public Broadcasting system show college football games? :heehee:

Now that I understand what he was trying to say. I would hope UC would consider playing at least one big game each year at Paul Brown Stadium.

It makes them, and the BE a more attractive commodity. But only the games likely to draw big numbers. You certainly wouldn't want to play SU, UConn, or RU in PBS at this time.

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That would be stupid, since the last time the bearcats played WVU in Cincy, about 28,000 showed up, and many of those were WVU fans.
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The Bearcats have indeed had an attendance problem in terms of football. I believe three factors play heavily into that 1) no tradition in terms of college football; 2) lack of any 'good' rivals outside of Louisville; and 3) Nippert itself.

Paul Brown Stadium would definitely 'fill-up' against the likes of tOSU (for obvious reasons), PSU, and ND. And while WVU isn't likely to fill it up until Cincy becomes more of a 'winner', it certainly is an attractive enough venue to more likely get TV.

As for only 28,000 in PBS, well what's the difference between 28,000 there and 28,000 in Raymond James?

It's not as though the Bulls have any great attendance track record either.

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Paul Brown Holds 65,000 and Nippert Holds 32,000 with the added seats in the endzone. In the past our AD Bob Goin has said that they would only move a game to Paul Brown if it were a huge game. We only played in Paul Brown Once when we lost to Eventual National Champ Ohio St. in 2002. I haven't heard anything yet, but I can check with my sources about this
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There's no recent news regarding our football team's schedule or venue, but then it's Cincinnati. Reds, Bengals, and Basketball pretty much dominate the entire sports coverage in the newspaper this time of the year.
Personally, I don't think the UC-WVU game will be moved to PBS, at least not right away in 2005. It probably costs money for the university to use PBS for the game (rent, maintainance, etc.), plus whatever concession money that's generated. I have a hard time seeing a dramatic increase in the fan interest for this coming season simply because the team is rather young/inexperienced and expectation is not as high. If the game draws 30-35k in attendance, I'd much rather see it played at Nippert. For one, the atmophere would be much much greater at a sold out stadium than a less than half-filled one (tell me which one would be more attractive to TV). Second, Nippert is one of the oldest stadiums and is also a great place to watch a game. Last but not least, UC would probably want to take every chance possible to showcase its campus to fellow Big East schools and the nation with its 80+ million dollar Varsity Village being close to completion when football season starts in the fall.
So, unless the projected attendance will be 45k+, I don't know if it's all that economical and attractive to move any games to PBS. But that's just my humble opinion.
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USFBullSpit Wrote:That would be stupid, since the last time the bearcats played WVU in Cincy, about 28,000 showed up, and many of those were WVU fans.
No it wouldn't be stupid because there's a difference between playing West Virginia a few years ago with a iffy UC team and a West Virginia team that nobody knew would be good OOC and playing a good West Virginia team this year, in one of our first Big East games, under a new coach who has a national championship and finished 7-5 with a bowl win. There's a difference between then and now.
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omnicarrier Wrote:The Bearcats have indeed had an attendance problem in terms of football. I believe three factors play heavily into that 1) no tradition in terms of college football; 2) lack of any 'good' rivals outside of Louisville; and 3) Nippert itself.

Paul Brown Stadium would definitely 'fill-up' against the likes of tOSU (for obvious reasons), PSU, and ND. And while WVU isn't likely to fill it up until Cincy becomes more of a 'winner', it certainly is an attractive enough venue to more likely get TV.

As for only 28,000 in PBS, well what's the difference between 28,000 there and 28,000 in Raymond James?

It's not as though the Bulls have any great attendance track record either.

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Thank you! And trust me if UC announced that they would be playing West Virginia at Paul Brown stadium it would draw fans. It would draw far more then 28,000 people.
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Is it possible that the WVU@ UC game could be the Bearcats first BE league game....that would be a milestone game in a sense and combine that with WVUs traveling fan base....hopefully attendance would be +38k and may require a move to PBS



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omnicarrier Wrote:The Bearcats have indeed had an attendance problem in terms of football. I believe three factors play heavily into that 1) no tradition in terms of college football; 2) lack of any 'good' rivals outside of Louisville; and 3) Nippert itself.
Nippert is not the reason why the fans don't show up. In fact, I think most UC fans would prefer to play at Nippert instead of at PBS. The crowd is closer to the field, the stadium is on campus, and there is a lot of bars within walking distance of the stadium. PBS is a different story, where you have to take a water taxi across the river to go to any decent bars, and they are big chain bars instead of the local bars around campus. The only thing PBS has going for it is better tailgating, but UC has been working on this over the past few years and continue to try to make the tailgating experience better at UC.

The 29,000 (28,806) that showed up in 2002 was pretty much a sellout that year because they had removed the endzone seats by the scoreboard for the current work going on at that end of the stadium. The capacity is listed at "near 30,000", but I have not seen an exact number that will fit without the 5,000 seats in that endzone. I can tell you, there weren't any seats to be found, and a lot of people were standing behind the south end of the endzone due to the stadium being so packed.

All that said, I can't see UC moving the game to PBS this year. They want to build a fan base of people who will go to Nippert first and foremost, so moving the very first NBE game (or at least the first big name from the NBE) would seem to be a dumb idea. I don't expect any game to be moved unless the team is in the top 10 (Louisville, possibly this year) or a team is going to bring enough people to push the attendance to 45K or higher.

I'm looking forward to the construction around the stadium to finish, as I think that can only help with the attendance around the stadium. A handful of season ticket holders I know have been complaining about how bad it is to get into the stadium (although I don't seem to have any problems going in from the south side), so who knows how many casual fans are not coming due to the construction right now...
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I doubt they would announce the move to PBS this early. Last time UC played at PBS I believe Oktoberfest was also going on downtown. If they could match that up again that would be awesome.
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Fanatical Wrote:I doubt they would announce the move to PBS this early. Last time UC played at PBS I believe Oktoberfest was also going on downtown. If they could match that up again that would be awesome.
That was a long weekend of drinking! Last game ever at Riverfront Stadium, UC vs. OSU at PBS, Oktoberfest... quite a bit of liver damage over 3 days :)
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don't see it happening....it didn't sellout at nippert the last time.....and it wasn't an iffy uc team...that was the only conference champion team we had....and i believe the game was right after we almost upset osu at pbs......whoever mentioned"nippert itself" as the problem is either an idiot or hasn't been on uc's campus...uc fans love nippert and i don't know any uc fans who wants to take the games away from campus....maybe for a notre dame, osu, or michigan, the game would be moved to pbs...i think you will see nippert expanded to 40,000 in the future, which will accomodate anticipated crowds.
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mlbUC Wrote:
Fanatical Wrote:I doubt they would announce the move to PBS this early. Last time UC played at PBS I believe Oktoberfest was also going on downtown. If they could match that up again that would be awesome.
That was a long weekend of drinking! Last game ever at Riverfront Stadium, UC vs. OSU at PBS, Oktoberfest... quite a bit of liver damage over 3 days :)
That was a great day! (with the exception of UC losing).

My brother-in-law and I started with Oktoberfest, food and drink. Then scalped a couple of blue seat tickets (for $10) to the next to last Reds game at Riverfront, followed up by the UC-OSU game.

I told my wife afterward that the only thing missing was a round of golf in the morning. :)
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Actually, the 2nd to last game was on Saturday night. The early game was the game from Friday night that got rescheduled due to fear or rain (but it never happened). I had tickets to Friday nights game, then to Sunday's game, with UC on Saturday. I ended up being able to turn in the early game on Saturday for tickets in GABP the next year.
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mlbUC Wrote:Actually, the 2nd to last game was on Saturday night. The early game was the game from Friday night that got rescheduled due to fear or rain (but it never happened). I had tickets to Friday nights game, then to Sunday's game, with UC on Saturday. I ended up being able to turn in the early game on Saturday for tickets in GABP the next year.
That's right - I forgot about the rainout. That's why we were able to get a couple of tickets for so little.
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UC, don't underestimate the value of a HOME game.
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Let's fill up Nippert first, and then worry about PBS.

Nippert will need to be expanded somehow to 40,000.

But Nippert is a great place, and UC is a great campus. I would hate for UC to play at PBS. I would allow an exception for OSU... I guess.
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