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RE: Alumni Association.
Here's another interesting take.......

There's an Alumni Association office in the old Wallwood Union.
They have a staff, and promote WMU and themselves.
They take trips to Florida, California, Mexico?,Chicago, Grand Rapids (they have a benefactor), etc, etc
Why isn't it simply called a Public Relations Office?

There is not an "Association of WMU Alumni"..........
The former President of the SE Michigan Chapter was once threatened, "Remember your just a volunteer !",
and I was told once an "official" of the GR Chapter was "fired" ? (Can a volunteer be fired?)
Unless your classified as a Major Donor your opinion and mine really doesn't matter.
"W don't care what you think, just send money!" Right...............

Let's forget all the past, and call everyone a "Family" ?? Right............
Efforts to discuss this topic has been throughly squashed by eliminating Alumni Chapters.

Family Values? Whose Family?
01-01-2012 07:33 PM
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RE: Alumni Association.
All this behavioral bs starts at the top, our board is appointed, everything else stems from that. How would you govern if you had a guaranteed job and paycheck?
01-01-2012 07:38 PM
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RE: Alumni Association.
Actually, the Alumni Board is "nominated", but must pass inspection by "you know who".

However, you are correct. It's the same thing as being appointed.
01-01-2012 07:47 PM
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RE: Alumni Association.
So Hoover, you're passionate about this, and it seems rightfully so. They've frustrated you and others it sounds.

There has always been a feeling just the opposite of "inclusiveness" in the WMU Community, like you said, "just send money" is the prevailing attitude that you get from those guys, including the WMU Alumni leaders.

What happens to them after this play? Do they stay intact and rule the new "Family"? Why did this happen, (compelling event)?
01-01-2012 07:49 PM
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RE: Alumni Association.
The irony is a lot of the people they think have money, don't.

There's a local guy who played baseball at WMU, who once had a successful insurance business. He had health problems and from outward appearances it appears he's lost or gone through much/most of his money (he lives up the street from me). They fawn over this guy like he's going to give them a million when he dies. It's not there.

Some of the biggest contributors to WMU have been retired educators. Most have made a steady paycheck for 40 years and have enough of a pension so they don't have to rob their savings.

They'd be more successful if they tried getting small amounts from many rather than trying to get the mother load from a few.
01-01-2012 09:07 PM
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(12-31-2011 03:51 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  Bottom line, if your chapter wants to be taken seriously you and the association have got to do a better job of presenting/selling yourself in these events. The guy running it did the best he could, but you really need some people with serious connections and organizational skills.

Yep, I think what the AA needs to do is kind of have a brainstorming session amongst those who have put on events and who want to put on events. Case in point, a few years ago, I wanted to have an Alumni outing to the Nationals. I was hoping the AA would front us money for 20 tickets (I could have easily sold 20 tickets), but they wouldn't. At the time, since I couldn't afford an iPhone, I couldn't afford to front 20 tickets (I wouldn't now, out of principle). I know last year a woman in San Diego had an outing at a Padres game, I kept meaning to email her to find out how she organized it and stuff, but I never did.

I've put on a few small events over the years for DC alums. Usually for football games. I'd have hosted one for the scUM and Central games, but I was out of town for weddings both weekends. I usually keep them small, call a bar, see if they will give us drink specials and reserve a few tables. I might do a winter reception this year, have it at a swank restaurant, order some hors d'oeuvres and have a bucket for cash donations for the food.
01-02-2012 03:08 PM
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RE: Alumni Association.
Except for a few of the faithful, such as yourself there has been little effort by the "Wallwood Hall Gang" to support an
Association of Alumni". The emphasis has been on self promotion.
Keeping the upstart alumni under control has been a major goal.
If one thinks of the alumni as being a member of the elite Adversary Group, students, faculty, administration, and yes those troublesome alumni.
everything falls into place.
In the aforementioned question, "Why the change?", I can only guess a person of some prominence was spoken to in a "condescending manner" or ignored.
So, lets forget the past, reinvent the wheel, and call it a "Family"?
We certainly DON"T want a FOCUS GROUP! My sources tell me the Board wields a big rubber stamp.

PT Barnum said What?
01-02-2012 05:16 PM
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RE: Alumni Association.
Quote:Keeping the upstart alumni under control has been a major goal.

Sounds about right, nothing has changed. It's a weird dynamic that flies in the face of what you would think they should be doing. To be clear, it's not LIMITED to the Alumni Association, trust me. Hard to be a supporter in these tough times, I do it for personal reasons, not because of my allegiance to the people who put themselves in charge.
(This post was last modified: 01-02-2012 05:26 PM by DesertBronco.)
01-02-2012 05:26 PM
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RE: Alumni Association.
Fellows you need to be updated, as there has been significant changes in the alumni association in the past year. Our new Vice President of Development, Jim Thomas is now in charge and there are dramatic changes happening every day. There has been changes in the alumni staff and events are easier to produce. If you were at the Bronco Bash in Detroit, you would have noticed one of them. This event was s huge success. They intended to host 1,500 persons at the Motor City Casino and the final count when it was done was near 2,500 persons in attendance. I could not find a seat to eat, and so I stood, while renewing acquaintances all afternoon, with avid Bronco fans. The cost of $10 per person was insane for the food and program. In this fans eyes, it was a huge success and it is due to Jim Thomas, and his associate Jim Small.

These two are making a lot of changes and we see them everyday. I was shocked to hear here that they have suspended "alumni dues" as reported on this web site. But knowing both Jim Thomas, and Jim Small it is not surprising. Jim Small is a master at "name branding". You see his ideas all of the time, he created with "Cannon Cup" competition between WMU and CMU this fall. The Bronco Bash at the Detroit Motor City Casino is another.

It is time for Bronco fans, and especially alumni to become acquainted with its school and know how good the university really is. A good weekly primer of reading would be going to "www.mywmu.com" and looking at all of the successes of WMU (another brain child of Jim Thomas and Jim Small). While it is true that I'm one of the most loyal Bronco alumni, the changes that are happening are great, and I would hope that we all can embrace these and quit, harping on the little things that pull so many of our alumni into the pity pit and continue on tearing donw so many people that have served our great university.

Those teachers and coaches of mine that criticized me, were not my enemy, they were pushing me to get the most out of myself.

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01-03-2012 12:24 PM
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RE: Alumni Association.
That's Show Bis..........
You can fool some of the people some of the time...............

Now what?
01-03-2012 01:41 PM
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