(11-20-2011 07:20 PM)FastCat Wrote:  If Case Keenum is able to put up video game numbers because the level of competition is so poor, then why aren't any other non-AQ teams (or heck AQ teams for that matter) doing it? It should be super easy. The way UH is beating these perceived "lesser" teams by so much is because they are playing at that next level.

A few years ago, that exact argument was made except that it read "Timmy Chang" instead of "Case Keenum" and "Hawaii" instead of "Houston".

It would be fun to watch Houston play a top defensive team like Bama -- would the result be like Hawaii against Georgia, or like Boise State against Oklahoma? We'll never know because Bama won't be in the Sugar Bowl unless there are several bizarre results in the next two weeks.

By the way... there are very few at-large options for the BCS, especially if Va Tech wins the ACC and Okie State wins the Big 12. Stanford is in unless they lose to ND, and maybe even if they lose. Michigan will barely be in the top 14 if they beat Ohio State, and if they lose to OSU, there will be no two-loss Big Ten teams available at-large, on top of the fact that an LSU-Bama matchup prevents the BCS from inviting any other SEC teams.

Boise State vs. Houston in the Sugar Bowl? It could happen. That would be a fun game.

(11-20-2011 10:28 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(11-20-2011 07:20 PM)FastCat Wrote:  If Case Keenum is able to put up video game numbers because the level of competition is so poor, then why aren't any other non-AQ teams (or heck AQ teams for that matter) doing it? It should be super easy. The way UH is beating these perceived "lesser" teams by so much is because they are playing at that next level.

A few years ago, that exact argument was made except that it read "Timmy Chang" instead of "Case Keenum" and "Hawaii" instead of "Houston".

It would be fun to watch Houston play a top defensive team like Bama -- would the result be like Hawaii against Georgia, or like Boise State against Oklahoma? We'll never know because Bama won't be in the Sugar Bowl unless there are several bizarre results in the next two weeks.

By the way... there are very few at-large options for the BCS, especially if Va Tech wins the ACC and Okie State wins the Big 12. Stanford is in unless they lose to ND, and maybe even if they lose. Michigan will barely be in the top 14 if they beat Ohio State, and if they lose to OSU, there will be no two-loss Big Ten teams available at-large, on top of the fact that an LSU-Bama matchup prevents the BCS from inviting any other SEC teams.

Boise State vs. Houston in the Sugar Bowl? It could happen. That would be a fun game.

I seriously hope they don't put Houston against Boise cause it would suck for both schools. Boise deserves to be in the BCS bowl. Boise beat Georgia at Atlanta, which is a very good win now that UGA has won the SEC east. I would like to see Boise play Bama if it is even possible. Remember what UTAH did to Bama a few years ago in the Sugar Bowl?

No one knows what Houston is capable of. I watched them and I think they got one of the best QBs in the country. I would like to see them take on a SEC team.

I think it's fantastic that the odds are great that 2 non BCS teams will be playing in BCS bowls. Don't want to see Houston vs Boise. Boise deserves to play an SEC team and Houston should be matched up with either an ACC or B12 team. If Georgia wins the SEC, Boise should play in the national title game. When you beat the champion of what is widely considered to be the best conference in the nation, you deserve to play in the national title game regardless if you have one loss on your record.

(11-20-2011 10:45 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  I seriously hope they don't put Houston against Boise cause it would suck for both schools.

I don't think that anymore. I initially thought that TCU and Boise were getting shortchanged when they were matched against each other in the Fiesta Bowl a couple of years ago, but I didn't think so after watching the game. The game proved that both of them belonged. I don't think that a non-AQ team needs a "big name" opponent to validate its own place in the game. Each team can validate itself by its own performance on the big stage.

The problem with UH's SOS and not having played a Top 50 team all year (not their fault) comes down to this: do they actually deserve their top ranking and a BCS game, or are they just a good team that has beat up on a bunch of bad teams like Tulane and Rice and survived several close scares against mediocre teams like LaTech and UTEP.

Right now I see the UH for BCS argument as the same one Pelosi made for Obama Care: "We have to let them play in a BCS Bowl to find out if they deserved to play in a BCS bowl!"

We all know the solution to this.

(11-20-2011 10:28 PM)Wedge Wrote:  It would be fun to watch Houston play a top defensive team like Bama -- would the result be like Hawaii against Georgia, or like Boise State against Oklahoma? We'll never know because Bama won't be in the Sugar Bowl unless there are several bizarre results in the next two weeks.

Ugh! I know the number of options for which team we would play in a BCS bowl is limited, but I sure wish folks would quit wishing Bama is the team they'd like to see if we could beat.

Only one team has beaten Bama this year, and Bama practically gave that win away! And if Bama gets to play LSU again, LSU is going down!

Us getting killed by Bama would not be any different than any other "top" team that Bama killed this year already, and really wouldn't answer the question of whether UH was BCS bowl worthy, yet if we got killed by Bama in the Sugar Bowl (hypothetical of course), everyone would be yelling, "See!! They didn't deserve that BCS bowl bid!" The argument isn't whether UH should be in the BCS Champ game, it's whether they deserve a spot in one of the other BCS bowl games.

Please pick another team you'd like to see UH go up against. haha!

if no major upsets happen again, we might see a 'Bama vs LSU rematch although it would really make no sense just for the fact that if 'bama wins, you know people want to see a third one to set the record straight especially if its a close game. I still think 'bamas the only team that has a chance at beating LSU this year.

I love how Houston is a bad team because they play bad teams like Louisiana Tech (2011 WAC champ possibly), UCLA (#2, Pac-12 south champ possibly), SMU (beat a ranked TCU), Rice (beat Purdue), UTEP (strong road team, but at home...).

Grow. Up. #shocker

Houston is not a bad team and deserves an at large spot. The joke starts when people seriously float the idea of them playing for the BCS championship.

(11-21-2011 08:38 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Houston is not a bad team and deserves an at large spot. The joke starts when people seriously float the idea of them playing for the BCS championship.

Houston and Virginia Tech have 2 common foes. Houston beat East Carolina and Marshall by a combined 88 points.

Virginia Tech beat them by a combined 27 points.

So I assume your statement about Houston being a joke for the BCS title game also applies to Virginia Tech, right?

I have another interesting thought:

Would the bowl committees select Boise as an at-large, being ranked so high?

(11-21-2011 09:13 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I have another interesting thought:

Would the bowl committees select Boise as an at-large, being ranked so high?

Anything's possible. But it's doubtful.

Bowls are looking for: 1) fanbases who travel and spend money, and 2) compelling story lines for TV.

See #1 for all the Michigan talk last night on the BCS show.

Assuming it's SEC vs. SEC for the title, then there are 4 spots available.

1 goes to the BE champ.
1 goes to any nonAQ champ who meets the criteria
2 (or 3) go to at-large picks.

If Stanford beats Notre Dame, they should get 1 of the at-large picks.

(11-21-2011 09:04 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(11-21-2011 08:38 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Houston is not a bad team and deserves an at large spot. The joke starts when people seriously float the idea of them playing for the BCS championship.

Houston and Virginia Tech have 2 common foes. Houston beat East Carolina and Marshall by a combined 88 points.

Virginia Tech beat them by a combined 27 points.

So I assume your statement about Houston being a joke for the BCS title game also applies to Virginia Tech, right?

I'm consistent. VT doesn't deserve to play for the title either. But I'm not puffing my chest out about our team, which is the beneficiary of a very weak schedule. Just like UH.

Yeah - I haven't heard a single UH fan argue that UH should be among the Top 2 and playing for the title.

We're just trying to make a BCS bowl game. Haven't played in something like that since the 1984 Cotton Bowl vs. Doug Flutie.

(11-21-2011 08:16 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I love how Houston is a bad team because they play bad teams like Louisiana Tech (2011 WAC champ possibly), UCLA (#2, Pac-12 south champ possibly), SMU (beat a ranked TCU), Rice (beat Purdue), UTEP (strong road team, but at home...).

Grow. Up. #shocker

Houston is not a bad team. They are an untested team this year. Big difference there.

(11-21-2011 04:51 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(11-21-2011 08:16 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I love how Houston is a bad team because they play bad teams like Louisiana Tech (2011 WAC champ possibly), UCLA (#2, Pac-12 south champ possibly), SMU (beat a ranked TCU), Rice (beat Purdue), UTEP (strong road team, but at home...).

Grow. Up. #shocker

Houston is not a bad team. They are an untested team this year. Big difference there.

Not are fault, when you beat OSU, TT, and Miss St. they don't want to renew. Hopefully "if" and when were in the BE, better teams will schedule us.

(11-21-2011 05:00 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  

(11-21-2011 04:51 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  

(11-21-2011 08:16 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I love how Houston is a bad team because they play bad teams like Louisiana Tech (2011 WAC champ possibly), UCLA (#2, Pac-12 south champ possibly), SMU (beat a ranked TCU), Rice (beat Purdue), UTEP (strong road team, but at home...).

Grow. Up. #shocker

Houston is not a bad team. They are an untested team this year. Big difference there.

Not are fault, when you beat OSU, TT, and Miss St. they don't want to renew. Hopefully "if" and when were in the BE, better teams will schedule us.

Never said it was your fault (in fact in one of these threads I explicitly say this is not your fault though I don't think your schedule was made with BCS hopes in mind like Boise does) and in fact if the rumors prove correct you are making an overall improvement to your conference schedule soon (BE right now does not have any really great teams but it is loaded with "good teams" so it would be an improvement over CUSA which has a lot of bottom feeders) which may lead to even better OOC schedules if you want them. Future could be bright.