This thread is full of laughs...
First a UAB fan pulls out a poll from 5 YEARS ago to make a point about Notre Dame and Penn State being the most popular teams in the Big East Markets. Perhaps I can look for a poll that shows Alabama or Auburn to be the most popular team in Birmingham but what would it prove?
Then a UCF fan shows up to take swipes at the Big East for not having enough teams. Wonder who hes pushing for Big East membership. If this poster is the typical UCF fan I hope the Big East NEVER considers that school. Give me Florida Atlantic or Florida A&M anyday.
CJ

cuseroc Wrote:'Dude" The discussion was about the BE and how the bcs was making it easy for the BE to continually qualify. He comes out of the blue once again about the MWC and how they are the same as the BE "dude" . Its one thing to promote your own conference, but when you admit publicly that your conference basically is not very good and has no shot at an automatic bcs bid and start to promote another conference that does have a shot, well that is as pathetic as me going on an ACC board and promoting the SEC, because I know that my conference is not as good as the ACC. That would be kinda sad "dude'. Can you understand this reasoning "dude"? I wanted to know why he keeps bringing up the MWC, he replied with his answer.
Anyway since UABGrad answered my question as to why he promotes the MWC on this BE board, we went on to a more civil discussion. I even asked his opinion about the new BCS automatic qualifications. So its obvious that we had moved on from there. Why did you feel the need to rehash what we had already finished discussing? It seems that you are the one that ruined this thread "dude".

Bingo! Couldn't have said it better myself! :)

That's the point I've been, and others have been, trying to get across to the UAB and other C-USA fans who are wondering why we are telling them what we are telling them. I seriously got tired of trying to explain it, this explained the point perfectly. :D

And this is a BE board so I don't know why cuseroc (although he's entitled to ask whatever questions he like) wants UABGrad to expound on why CUSA is not worthy on a BE board.[QUOTE]


Try to keep up "dude". If its ok for UAB (a Cusa fan) to explain why MWC is bcs worthy on a BE board, and you have been championing his cause and sticking up for him in doing this, Then why isnt it ok for me to ask that same Cusa fan to explain why Cusa is not bcs worthy on this BE board? :bang: You must like to double talk. :stupid:

HiddenDragon Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:

UABGrad Wrote:

cuseroc Wrote:'Dude"  The discussion was about the BE and how the bcs was making it easy for the BE to continually qualify.  He comes out of the blue once again about the MWC and how they are the same as the BE "dude" .  Its one thing to promote your own conference,  but when you admit publicly that your conference basically is not very good and has no shot at an  automatic bcs bid  and start to promote another conference that does have a shot, well that is as pathetic as me going on an ACC board and promoting the SEC, because I know that my conference is not as good as the ACC.  That would be kinda sad "dude'. Can you understand this reasoning "dude"?

The topic was on the new BCS criteria.

I never said C-USA wasn't very good. I simply stated I don't think we have a chance to get an auto bid in 2008.

I'm not promoting any conference. Do you really think anyone reads this board that has input on the the BCS decisions?

I guess discussing topics about the future of the NCAA and the BCS is pathetic. It's much more interesting to pound our chest and smack we are better than you.

Well why dont you think its possible for CUSA to get an auto bid in 2008?

I'm glad UABGRad corrected you. It seems that people really do forget sometimes what the original topic was all about it get a little sidetrack when they feel someone is trying to slight their conference.

And this is a BE board so I don't know why cuseroc (although he's entitled to ask whatever questions he like) wants UABGrad to expound on why CUSA is not worthy on a BE board.

So what he doesn't think CUSA is BCS worthy. It's his opinion dude. But it's apparent he thinks the MWC is more worthy and he explain he reasoning for that. He also thinks the MWC and BE may have some similiarities and it's obvious some of you dont agree. And that's fine. The topic was going along fine until you started questioned UABGrad motives.

You're calling someone pathetic because he can set aside his conferences ties and talk about another conference? You're calling him pathetic because he can think outside of the CUSA box? You're calling him pathetic because he feels CUSA is not BCS worthy?

It's OK for BE people to think CUSA is not BCS worthy but not OK for a CUSA posters to think the same? You're the pathetic one dude.

Now I'll take my leave while U find something to say to belittle with.

Go UAB!

Obviously the BE is bcs worthy since the BE is part of the bcs right? And No I do not think Cusa is going to be bcs conference. But at least I agree with UAB, the MWC is light years ahead of CUSA.

I was not questioning UABGrads motives. I thought it was strange that a CUSA fan is interested in the MWC. You look it a lot of threads on this board, and he's always bringing up the MWC. I wanted to know why. He explained it and that was the end of it. We went on from there. Then you had to step in and rehash. But CatsClaw set you straight. I still think its pathetic. If you cant see that it is then you are pathetic too. I mean if I were a regular poster on an ACC board, and the posters there were talking about how great their conference is and how they easily meet the new bcs criteria, I would not feel the need to bring up the SEC and how they are just as good and how they may meet the bcs criteria as good or better than the ACC, because I know that the Acc is a better fb conference than the BE. To do so would be pathetic. But thats what UAB Grad did. Its like he cant stand to see us talk about the positives of our conference, so he has to throw something out there so that our heads wont get too big. And you are just as pathetic because you pretend that you cant see why he is so patheitic.

What do you think would happen to him if he went on the killerfrogs board talking up the MWC and how they are better qualified to be bcs than CUSA? In fact I would like to see him do that.

HiddenDragon Wrote:

Maize Wrote:Why C-USA will not get a bid in 2008, one no Dominate school and 2 they have Rice, Tulsa, SMU and a 0-11 UCF to drag down their overall conference strength.

That is not the reason. The reason is because we will not be giving a fair chance to obtain it.

What you're doing is taking stabs at the four schools you mentioned. Really easy to do these days isn't it Maize.

Go UAB!

HD I said from the BEGINNING that C-USA should have stuck to 9 members. If you did IMO TCU would still be part of C-USA and you would have just had to add Marshall and UCF for the Florida market.

When Louisville, Army, USF and UC left you still had 7 schools including TCU and USM.

If your conference would have look like this then you would have a better shot and a BCS berth and you would not have handed the MWC a loaded gun in TCU. I know you now bash the Horned Frogs but they are a good program that will do well in that league.

What C-USA should have been after we departed:
TCU
Southern Miss
Memphis
Houston
Tulane
UAB
East Carolina
Marshall
UCF

That would have been a very good and solid conference in both Football and Basketball. In football you would have build around USM, Memphis, Marshall and TCU. In basketball you would have build around UAB and Memphis. Plus you would not have the dead weight at the bottom holding you down.

HiddenDragon Wrote:

Maize Wrote:Why C-USA will not get a bid in 2008, one no Dominate school and 2 they have Rice, Tulsa, SMU and a 0-11 UCF to drag down their overall conference strength.

That is not the reason. The reason is because we will not be giving a fair chance to obtain it.

What you're doing is taking stabs at the four schools you mentioned. Really easy to do these days isn't it Maize.

Go UAB!

You should be able to get the same chance that the MWC gets. But Maize is right. USM and Memphis maybe good along with Utep. But CUSA has too many really bad teams in the middle and at the bottom.

cuseroc Wrote:Obviously the BE is bcs worthy since the BE is part of the bcs right? And No I do not think Cusa is going to be bcs conference. But at least I agree with UAB, the MWC is light years ahead of CUSA.

I was not questioning UABGrads motives. I thought it was strange that a CUSA fan is interested in the MWC. You look it a lot of threads on this board, and he's always bringing up the MWC. I wanted to know why. He explained it and that was the end of it. We went on from there. Then you had to step in and rehash. But CatsClaw set you straight. I still think its pathetic. If you cant see that it is then you are pathetic too. I mean if I were a regular poster on an ACC board, and the posters there were talking about how great their conference is and how they easily meet the new bcs criteria, I would not feel the need to bring up the SEC and how they are just as good and how they may meet the bcs criteria as good or better than the ACC, because I know that the Acc is a better fb conference than the BE. To do so would be pathetic. But thats what UAB Grad did. Its like he cant stand to see us talk about the positives of our conference, so he has to throw something out there so that our heads wont get too big. And you are just as pathetic because you pretend that you cant see why he is so patheitic.

What do you think would happen to him if he went on the killerfrogs board talking up the MWC and how they are better qualified to be bcs than CUSA? In fact I would like to see him do that.

Good grief. How many times do I have say I personally want the BE to remain the BCS. Believe it or not there are fans that want what is best for college football. Discussing the issues has nothing to do with what I want to see happen. I wouldn't hesitate to post anything I post here, on any board Iparticipate in, or that matter say in any conversation. Killerfrogs is not a place to discuss issues anymore.

The reason I don't think C-USA has a chance to get an autobid in 2008 is based on recent history of the average champion rating, the top 25's and the overall rpi average. In 6 years maybe we will be having this conversation about C-USA.

I don't know why you want to make personal attacks but don't expect them in return from me.

I don't know what you're going to gain coming over to the Big East board and being combative with the Big East fans and then use the excuse of being "objective" and giving an "outsiders" view. I'm excited about the New Big East, and I'm concentrating on that, as are Big East fans. I could care less about the MWC. Big East fans could care less about the conference. Just let them take care of their business and we'll take care of ours. Besides, I never knew the logic thrown around by people that the MWC can improve, N-CUSA has upside and can improve, but that you're crazy if you think the New Big East has upside and can improve.

Holy Lord my head hurts from reading this thread!

I'll happily admit that I revel in the fact that the BCS is installing guidelines that favor the Big East. After all the bull**** we've had to hear from the C-DOA (Couldn't resist) peanut gallery cncerning how hostile the other 5 power conferences would be towards us the retro inclusion of Louisville's 04 BCS ranking is frankly icing on the cake. Clowns like Topboob and various other haters can take a big bite of this BCS shite sandwich chew slowly and swallow.

So I got set straight by Cat? Dude u'r so juvenile it isn't even funny. Both of U don't have the balls to say U simply didn't like someone from another conference comparing what you and others think are apples to oranges.

Pure and simple. Even though he wasn't talking smack and originally started a thread from a newspaper atricle concerning the new BCS formula, you took offense to it simply because he was comparing a BCS conference to a conference with BCS potential. Then amazingly you guys had to get CUSA in on the discussion when it they wasn't even mentioned in the initial thread.

Quote:Obviously the BE is bcs worthy since the BE is  part of the bcs right?  And No I do not think Cusa is going to be bcs conference. But at least I agree with UAB, the MWC is light years ahead of CUSA.

He never said the BE wasn't worthy. And he never said CUSA was worthy. Hell you brought CUSA up.

Quote:I was not questioning UABGrads motives.  I thought it was strange that a CUSA fan is interested in the MWC.  You look it a lot of threads on this board, and he's always bringing up the MWC.  I wanted to know why. He explained it and that was the end of it. We went on from there. Then you had to step in and rehash. But CatsClaw set you straight. I still think its pathetic.  If you cant see that it is then you are pathetic too.  I mean if I were a regular poster on an ACC board, and the posters there were talking about how great their conference is and how they easily  meet the new bcs criteria, I would not feel the need to bring up the SEC and how they are just as good and how they may meet the bcs criteria as good or better than the ACC, because I know that the Acc is a better fb conference than the BE.  To do so would be pathetic.  But thats what UAB Grad did.  Its like he cant stand to see us talk about the positives of our conference, so he has to throw something out there so that our heads wont get too big.  And you are just as pathetic because you pretend that you cant see why he is so patheitic.

So U thought it was strange he did that but was he wrong or was he posting smack? No. So what was the freaking problem? I step in with Cat because I was asking him why he thought it what UABGrad was doing was silly. He answered my questions (sort of) and I then left it at that. You felt the need to injected some more and to get that last word in and you'll accomplish that. Whatever you would feel the need to do is your perrogative. You keep saying UABGrad can stand to see U guys talk about the positives about your conference but point out anywhere in this thread that he had giving U that impression.

And who in their right mind can keep NBE posters from getting the "BIG HEAD"? Stop it already. :laugh:

Quote:What do you think would happen to him if he went on the killerfrogs board talking up the MWC and how they are better qualified to be bcs than CUSA?  In fact I would like to see him do that. 

I dont know what they would think but I know what they would say.............Welcome to the smart side. This is too hilarious!

:laugh:

I vote we simply ban any fan associated with a CUSA school. That is a simply way to end all this "objective threads" with "questions from outsiders" and "impartial parties". Some one up the thread said, go to Killerfrogs and do this or do that. Do it and the sensitive, prick ECU moderator there will ban you. The same clown ruless the CUSA board on this system the same way..So I say ban them all....Screw their Midmajor programs and let them rot outside the BCS. Hows that for being objective. Now run along and play your games in empty stadiums on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday nights and leave us to discuss playing for a BCS Championship. Ohhh....BTW I got banned for making fun of college baseball on killerfrogs...LMAO.
I wear the badge proudly.
CJ

CardinalJim Wrote:I vote we simply ban any fan associated with a CUSA school. That is a simply way to end all this "objective threads" with "questions from outsiders" and "impartial parties". Some one up the thread said, go to Killerfrogs and do this or do that. Do it and the sensitive, prick ECU moderator there will ban you. The same clown ruless the CUSA board on this system the same way..So I say ban them all....Screw their Midmajor programs and let them rot outside the BCS. Hows that for being objective. Now run along and play your games in empty stadiums on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday nights and leave us to discuss playing for a BCS Championship. Ohhh....BTW I got banned for making fun of college baseball on killerfrogs...LMAO.
I wear the badge proudly.
CJ

yeah, ban 'em like you do at the "the ville". :rolleyes:

CardinalJim Wrote:I vote we simply ban any fan associated with a CUSA school. That is a simply way to end all this "objective threads" with "questions from outsiders" and "impartial parties". Some one up the thread said, go to Killerfrogs and do this or do that. Do it and the sensitive, prick ECU moderator there will ban you. The same clown ruless the CUSA board on this system the same way..So I say ban them all....Screw their Midmajor programs and let them rot outside the BCS. Hows that for being objective. Now run along and play your games in empty stadiums on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday nights and leave us to discuss playing for a BCS Championship. Ohhh....BTW I got banned for making fun of college baseball on killerfrogs...LMAO.
I wear the badge proudly.
CJ

LOL! Tell us how you REALLY feel?

HiddenDragon Wrote:So I got set straight by Cat?  Dude u'r so juvenile it isn't even funny.  Both of U don't have the balls to say U simply didn't like someone from another conference comparing what you and others think are apples to oranges.

Pure and simple.  Even though he wasn't talking smack and originally started a thread from a newspaper atricle concerning the new BCS formula, you took offense to it simply because he was comparing a BCS conference to a conference with BCS potential.  Then amazingly you guys had to get CUSA in on the discussion when it they wasn't even mentioned in the initial thread. 

Quote:Obviously the BE is bcs worthy since the BE is  part of the bcs right?  And No I do not think Cusa is going to be bcs conference. But at least I agree with UAB, the MWC is light years ahead of CUSA.

He never said the BE wasn't worthy. And he never said CUSA was worthy. Hell you brought CUSA up.

Quote:I was not questioning UABGrads motives.  I thought it was strange that a CUSA fan is interested in the MWC.  You look it a lot of threads on this board, and he's always bringing up the MWC.  I wanted to know why. He explained it and that was the end of it. We went on from there. Then you had to step in and rehash. But CatsClaw set you straight. I still think its pathetic.  If you cant see that it is then you are pathetic too.  I mean if I were a regular poster on an ACC board, and the posters there were talking about how great their conference is and how they easily  meet the new bcs criteria, I would not feel the need to bring up the SEC and how they are just as good and how they may meet the bcs criteria as good or better than the ACC, because I know that the Acc is a better fb conference than the BE.  To do so would be pathetic.  But thats what UAB Grad did.  Its like he cant stand to see us talk about the positives of our conference, so he has to throw something out there so that our heads wont get too big.  And you are just as pathetic because you pretend that you cant see why he is so patheitic.

So U thought it was strange he did that but was he wrong or was he posting smack? No. So what was the freaking problem? I step in with Cat because I was asking him why he thought it what UABGrad was doing was silly. He answered my questions (sort of) and I then left it at that. You felt the need to injected some more and to get that last word in and you'll accomplish that. Whatever you would feel the need to do is your perrogative. You keep saying UABGrad can stand to see U guys talk about the positives about your conference but point out anywhere in this thread that he had giving U that impression.

And who in their right mind can keep NBE posters from getting the "BIG HEAD"? Stop it already. :laugh:

Quote:What do you think would happen to him if he went on the killerfrogs board talking up the MWC and how they are better qualified to be bcs than CUSA?  In fact I would like to see him do that. 

I dont know what they would think but I know what they would say.............Welcome to the smart side. This is too hilarious!

:laugh:

Hey, "dude" stop twisting things around. First of all some one else mentioned CUSA , and I just took it from there. If you cant stand to see us talk about how weak CUSA is, then dont read our posts on this BE board. Thats your problem "dude", you are so upset that your crummy little school is stuck in a weak CUSA plain and simple. You CUSA folks are inferior to us BE folks There, I had enough "balls" to say that. Now if you cant stand seeing this kind of stuff on our BE board, then run along and dont say anything else. Just run along little one. Try to make the best of your situation in your weak CUSA.

Like I said, juvenile.

HiddenDragon Wrote:Like I said, juvenile.

The only person juvenile around here is you. You seriously need to calm down and stop taking all of this personally because nothing that I posted even hinted at being personal. I never even bashed anybody.

HiddenDragon Wrote:Like I said, juvenile.

I guess you really told me.

here's something juvenile for you: CUSA is sooo yucky! :laugh:

Cat's_Claw Wrote:

HiddenDragon Wrote:Like I said, juvenile.

The only person juvenile around here is you. You seriously need to calm down and stop taking all of this personally because nothing that I posted even hinted at being personal. I never even bashed anybody.

Now I'm taking things personally. I need to calm down. What in the hell R U talking about. Give me a freakin break. U guys are a piece of work. Did I accuse U of taking anything personal Cat?

I would respect you more by just telling me to get the heck off your board. Don't worry about it. I'm gone and thank god for the ignore button.

U da man Cat. U R da man!