http://www.testudotimes.com/2011/11/14/2...#storyjump

Men:
Cross country
Track
Swimming & Diving
Tennis

Women:
Swimming & Diving
Water Polo
Tumbling/competitive cheer

Considering you guys had a whopping 27 teams, I don't think this is that big of a deal. It will save a lot of money in the long haul. Plus you still have 20 varsity sports, which is more than most schools.

Boston College has 31.

North Carolina has 27.

Duke has 26.

Virginia has 25.

North Carolina State has 24.

Maryland has 20.

Clemson has 19.

Virginia Tech has 19.

Pittsburgh has 19.

Syracuse has 18.

Georgia Tech has 17.

Florida State has 17.

Wake Forest has 16.

Miami has 15.

Sad to hear but OC22 is right. Maryland has a large number of varsity sports after the cuts. On the surface of it looks bad, but dig deeper and not so much.

UMD will still have 20 sports after these 7 are cut, but the majority of the 7 on the list seem pretty fundamental to me. M & W Swimming/diving plus M & W track/field? C'mon, those are pretty traditional. Even tennis is a little bit of a head scratcher too. I can see eliminating cross country, water polo and competitive cheer/dance, but track & field would be a good strategic sport to keep around considering it can be an opportunity to either work with the football program to develop speedy players or possibly be a sport that the FB team may be able to snag a good WR with blazing speed.

I would think they'd start w/ Field Hockey and gymnastics

(11-14-2011 08:14 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Considering you guys had a whopping 27 teams, I don't think this is that big of a deal. It will save a lot of money in the long haul. Plus you still have 20 varsity sports, which is more than most schools.

Boston College has 31.

North Carolina has 27.

Duke has 26.

Virginia has 25.

North Carolina State has 24.

Maryland has 20.

Clemson has 19.

Virginia Tech has 19.

Pittsburgh has 19.

Syracuse has 18.

Georgia Tech has 17.

Florida State has 17.

Wake Forest has 16.

Miami has 15.

Carolina actually has 28 varsity sports.

(11-14-2011 10:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  Carolina actually has 28 varsity sports.

You guys add one recently?

All's I did to check was look at each universities wiki page.

It sucks to cut the sports as it causes resentment from years of alumni and supporters of those sports within a University no matter the reason (financial I assume).

I'm going to go there and attack the "sacred cow"... so why wouldn't Maryland scuttle Lacrosse? Maybe a lacrosse team is much cheaper to maintain than swimming and track teams, but I see only 4 men teams playing lacrosse and 6 women teams in the ACC standings. But when you look at swimming, it's 10.5 men teams (Miami diving only) and 11 women teams. I'm guessing track has almost 100% school participation too. Why keep the sports that much of the ACC does not support anyways?

(11-15-2011 09:17 AM)miko33 Wrote:  why wouldn't Maryland scuttle Lacrosse?

BLASPHEMY!!!

Never going to happen, not in a million years. LAX is so central to the state culture that the Governor and state legislature would immediately get involved at the slightest whisper of it. Even if no other school in the ACC played lacrosse, Maryland would still field a varsity team to play Hopkins, Navy, Towson, Loyola, UMBC, and Georgetown. That's right, there are 7 in-state (+DC) D1 lacrosse teams.

Field hockey isn't going anywhere either.

I can see keeping women's field hockey, because this is a sport where multiple ACC teams are perennially in the Final Four. Prestige nationally & within the conference, and is a regional favorite (meaning your travel budget for recruitment wouldn't have to be as large).

Swimming/diving seems to make sense - always the first to be dropped probably because of the cost of maintaining the facility for competition.

I don't see dropping track & field & cross-country though. These are sports in which every school in the conference competes and as another poster said, track & field is often used as a second sport for speed training by football players.

(11-15-2011 09:54 AM)Lucy Wrote:  Swimming/diving seems to make sense - always the first to be dropped probably because of the cost of maintaining the facility for competition.

Rumor has it that when the school was going to build a new rec-center about a decade ago, they were given the funding by the state so long as it was built to olympic specifications in the off chance that DC ever got the summer olympics.

(11-15-2011 10:12 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 09:54 AM)Lucy Wrote:  Swimming/diving seems to make sense - always the first to be dropped probably because of the cost of maintaining the facility for competition.

Rumor has it that when the school was going to build a new rec-center about a decade ago, they were given the funding by the state so long as it was built to olympic specifications in the off chance that DC ever got the summer olympics.

Interesting. And now they won't even be using it for anything more than intramurals...

Georgia Tech had swimming/diving back in the day, but dropped it in the mid/late 80s due to funding issues. They only added the sport back after the 1996 Olympics due to having a natatorium on campus b/c of the Olympics.

(11-15-2011 09:51 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 09:17 AM)miko33 Wrote:  why wouldn't Maryland scuttle Lacrosse?

BLASPHEMY!!!

Never going to happen, not in a million years. LAX is so central to the state culture that the Governor and state legislature would immediately get involved at the slightest whisper of it. Even if no other school in the ACC played lacrosse, Maryland would still field a varsity team to play Hopkins, Navy, Towson, Loyola, UMBC, and Georgetown. That's right, there are 7 in-state (+DC) D1 lacrosse teams.

Field hockey isn't going anywhere either.

This is just my opinion, but I think there are certain fundamental sports that every athletic department associated with an FBS program should offer at all costs. Those are:

Football
M/W Basketball
M/W Track and Field
M/W Swimming
Baseball
Softball

Every other sport IMO is either more of a regional sport (hockey) or is a more obscure nature in relation to other sports (Water polo).

(11-15-2011 02:54 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 09:51 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 09:17 AM)miko33 Wrote:  why wouldn't Maryland scuttle Lacrosse?

BLASPHEMY!!!

Never going to happen, not in a million years. LAX is so central to the state culture that the Governor and state legislature would immediately get involved at the slightest whisper of it. Even if no other school in the ACC played lacrosse, Maryland would still field a varsity team to play Hopkins, Navy, Towson, Loyola, UMBC, and Georgetown. That's right, there are 7 in-state (+DC) D1 lacrosse teams.

Field hockey isn't going anywhere either.

This is just my opinion, but I think there are certain fundamental sports that every athletic department associated with an FBS program should offer at all costs. Those are:

Football
M/W Basketball
M/W Track and Field
M/W Swimming
Baseball
Softball

Every other sport IMO is either more of a regional sport (hockey) or is a more obscure nature in relation to other sports (Water polo).

I can't deny that lacrosse is a regional sport (though growing less so every year) but to suggest that Maryland drop lacrosse is ridiculous. Go ask Texas to drop football and see what kind of a reaction you get.

(11-15-2011 03:30 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 02:54 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 09:51 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 09:17 AM)miko33 Wrote:  why wouldn't Maryland scuttle Lacrosse?

BLASPHEMY!!!

Never going to happen, not in a million years. LAX is so central to the state culture that the Governor and state legislature would immediately get involved at the slightest whisper of it. Even if no other school in the ACC played lacrosse, Maryland would still field a varsity team to play Hopkins, Navy, Towson, Loyola, UMBC, and Georgetown. That's right, there are 7 in-state (+DC) D1 lacrosse teams.

Field hockey isn't going anywhere either.

This is just my opinion, but I think there are certain fundamental sports that every athletic department associated with an FBS program should offer at all costs. Those are:

Football
M/W Basketball
M/W Track and Field
M/W Swimming
Baseball
Softball

Every other sport IMO is either more of a regional sport (hockey) or is a more obscure nature in relation to other sports (Water polo).

I can't deny that lacrosse is a regional sport (though growing less so every year) but to suggest that Maryland drop lacrosse is ridiculous. Go ask Texas to drop football and see what kind of a reaction you get.

OK, if lacrosse is so strongly thought of then that's fine. I have 9 sports above, including football, so I think lacrosse could still be kept. I would then cut other programs instead, but when you think Olympic Sports the first sports that come to mind are track and swimming. Also, baseball is likely just on the cusp of being a revenue sport, which would require that softball be kept because of title IX.

(11-15-2011 04:19 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 03:30 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 02:54 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 09:51 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 09:17 AM)miko33 Wrote:  why wouldn't Maryland scuttle Lacrosse?

BLASPHEMY!!!

Never going to happen, not in a million years. LAX is so central to the state culture that the Governor and state legislature would immediately get involved at the slightest whisper of it. Even if no other school in the ACC played lacrosse, Maryland would still field a varsity team to play Hopkins, Navy, Towson, Loyola, UMBC, and Georgetown. That's right, there are 7 in-state (+DC) D1 lacrosse teams.

Field hockey isn't going anywhere either.

This is just my opinion, but I think there are certain fundamental sports that every athletic department associated with an FBS program should offer at all costs. Those are:

Football
M/W Basketball
M/W Track and Field
M/W Swimming
Baseball
Softball

Every other sport IMO is either more of a regional sport (hockey) or is a more obscure nature in relation to other sports (Water polo).

I can't deny that lacrosse is a regional sport (though growing less so every year) but to suggest that Maryland drop lacrosse is ridiculous. Go ask Texas to drop football and see what kind of a reaction you get.

OK, if lacrosse is so strongly thought of then that's fine. I have 9 sports above, including football, so I think lacrosse could still be kept. I would then cut other programs instead, but when you think Olympic Sports the first sports that come to mind are track and swimming. Also, baseball is likely just on the cusp of being a revenue sport, which would require that softball be kept because of title IX.

Most people are not aware of how much swing lax has in maryland.
Case in point: You know the maryland turtle shell helmets? Apparently the football team stole the idea from the lacrosse team: http://twitter.com/#!/RHOFF25/status/105832175856918528

(11-15-2011 04:19 PM)miko33 Wrote:  OK, if lacrosse is so strongly thought of then that's fine.

Maryland is similar to Syracuse in that their 3 main sports are Football, basketball, and Lacrosse. Most schools would probably have baseball or hockey there. Virginia is the same. Duke and North Carolina possibly too.

how much does cutting xc save? I guess if you cut track, then it makes sense to cut xc. Usually the coach and athletes are the saem for xc, indoor and outdoor track. oh well i guess whateer was cut someone would object

I would think soccer would be more of a core sport than swimming.