(10-31-2011 09:51 PM)UCFL Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 09:45 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 09:18 PM)UCFL Wrote:  Why can't ECU just let the Big East decide if they want you. Why must you plead to get in? Obviously it didn't work in the past, and it probably won't work now. All it does is damage CUSA and the remaining members.

This is funny coming from a ucf fan. They have all but done the kneel and bob for any and every big east person or official for about 4 years now.

For what its worth, Southern Miss deserves the Big East way more than ECU. You both are in small markets, but Southern Miss has put a much better quality program on the field year in and year out.

And for whats its worth, UCF has NEVER had its senators make a public statement like this. The weekly ramblings of TH are even more painful to read as a CUSA member.

Year in and Year out???? I don't think so...But I agree USM deserves in be included. Using your standard UCF is the one that does not "deserve" to be included. Also it is clear you are just trolling in this thread and having a good time watching all the ECU fans get riled up. Your little games when it comes to ECU are starting to get a little old. It is just laughable that a fan from UCF of all schools has the nerve to try and run smack....

I know I have been warned for neg repping UCFL, but he deserved every - I gave him. He hasn't done anything but troll for weeks now, and deserves to be banned if this is all he is going to contribute to the board.

(10-31-2011 09:04 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 08:50 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 08:35 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 08:19 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I get so tired of seeing this type of sh!t. I sometime wish you guys would just go ahead and get out so the rest of us can move on. This kind of sh!t is distracting as hell for the rest of the league. These kind of actions show no respect for the conference as a whole. I'm just in shock that a lot of you still want to go to a conference ran by basketball playing schools that will not retain BCS status after 2013. Even if you do go to the Big East you cant get there until 2013....same time the AQ is leaving. Have fun.

It is all about money and perception. Although the "New Big East" will not be a juggernaut of a conference it will still be better from top to bottom than the CUSA/MWC merger and the money will still be substantially better. Also Memphis and Temple have had their politicians get involved as well. So it is not just ECU....The bottom line, if you are not included now it may never happen. Even though there is a good chance the Big East will remain unstable it is a chance that needs to be taken.

The "money and perception" left with Pitt, Syracuse, TCU, and WVU. That's the reality and that's not including Louisville and UConn trying there best to get out.

You are right to a certain extent but the Big East will still be higher profile and will provide its members with more money as well.

I disagree that the football side will be looked upon as higher profile. Not in the long-term.

I don't blame ECU - they're in the east.
I don't blame UCF - they don't need to be smackin it, though (neither did Louisville, although they had a few skins; cincy and usf smacked it too, and that was more absurd than UCF doing it).

I hate to drag all of UCF into this because of one poster, but I can think of more reasons for almost every school in the conference to be BCS over UCF. I'll just name the other two that are going to leave.

1. Houston: football history, Heisman winner, has been ranked 15 times with the highest being 4th, 4 members of the collegiate football HOF, and basketball history. Also in the nations 4th largest city where if they do well enough, they can play in Reliant or the Astrodome. May I say that they also should've been in the Big 12 to begin with?

2. SMU: football history, 3 national championships, Heisman winner, and 10 college HOF members. Just outside the 9th largest city in the nation where when they go against certain opponents, they can use Cowboys Stadium or the Cotton Bowl. If they didn't get caught with huge violations they may have held the SWC together or at least gone to the Big 12.

3. UCF: Decent sized city with a couple of theme parks.

(10-31-2011 09:18 PM)UCFL Wrote:  Why can't ECU just let the Big East decide if they want you. Why must you plead to get in? Obviously it didn't work in the past, and it probably won't work now. All it does is damage CUSA and the remaining members.

Why can't you stop trolling? ECU is doing what is best for ECU. Piss Off is you don't like it. Are our State leaders doing this for votes, yes, but they can't lie that ECU in the BE (with a posible AQ bid) with the other 4 BCS schools in the state would good for Eastern NC's economy and the economy of the entire state. Studies have been done to see what the economic impact of the State's Universities, ECU has had about a 3 billion dollar posotive impact of the State's economy. ECU in a posible AQ confrence would be goo for the State, Easten NC, Pitt Country, and Greenville. They are looking out for NC. Are you stupid enough to think that Government officails wouldn't get invovled to help schools from their state. We weren't the first, Va. Governer went to bat for VPI, Texas helped Baylor stop the Pac-10 from stealing 6 teams from the B-12. Others will get envovled.

You needed to stop this crap, Terry Holland has been right so far, go read his letters again, listen to his interviews. Two weeks ago he said he thought the BE would lose one more school and guess what, hello WVU.

If you have a problem with Gov. Purdue, Sen. Burr, Sen. Hagan, or Terry Holland, their office e-mails are easy to find, go b@tch to them. We are just fans and at the end of the day, we aren't calling the shots. We can't sit around and wait, action is needed. What we fans and TH really want is a simple yes or no, we are sick and tired of the BE d@cking us around. If we aren't what the BE wants, then they should just say it, then we can move on.

As for what I think, I'd say no to the BE, F-them, they pound sand for all I care. ECU, USM, UCF, UH, SMU, Boise, are all good enough to be BCS programs and could do well. But, even if we were to have a "airport" meeting and form a new confrence. Just an example: Boise, UH, SMU, Tulsa, USM, ECU, UCF, Navy, AF, Memphis, Temple, and BYU. We still wouldn't be given AQ status, we still would be looked at as nothing more than "the best of the rest". Blowing up a AQ confrence and picking up a few of the "leftovers" is the only all of us could get AQ status and that's remote at best. All of us have one problem, we weren't there at the start, our programs don't go back to the 1890s to the 1910s, we aren't the "old guard" and they don't want us at the table and will only let so many at the table, ECU is doing what we have to do to get one of those seats.

On a side note, I'd love to see UNC Charlotte take ECU's CUSA spot if they forfeit it due to travel costs.

(10-31-2011 09:35 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 07:28 PM)UCFL Wrote:  The Presidents of the Big East Conference
Universities and Colleges
Re: East Carolina University – Interest in the Big East Conference
Ladies and Gentlemen:
We are writing as three state-wide North Carolina elected officials – its Governor and its two United States Senators – and in support of the effort of East Carolina University (“ECU”) to become a member of the Big East Conference. In this effort, we speak – along with a majority of North Carolinians – with one voice.

Our State has a strong tradition of public universities with both excellent academic records and deep commitments to intercollegiate athletics. ECU, as fully described in the letter from University of North Carolina system President Tom Ross, follows in that tradition.
ECU is an institution whose presence would serve to strengthen the Big East as a conference by bringing its deep ties to the entire State of North Carolina into the Big East fold.

ECU, by virtue of its growing academic reach, its proven track record in football and other intercollegiate sports, and its ardent fan base throughout North Carolina, is a school that can and will serve the Big East well.
We would very much appreciate your serious consideration of East Carolina University.

Govenor's Letter to the Big East

Hate this for you ECU guys. Having these three involved in anything assures it's failure.

(10-31-2011 09:32 PM)UCFL Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 09:24 PM)whitey Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 09:18 PM)UCFL Wrote:  Why can't ECU just let the Big East decide if they want you. Why must you plead to get in? Obviously it didn't work in the past, and it probably won't work now. All it does is damage CUSA and the remaining members.

That's OK we OWN you in FB & the only reason you got an invite is you are in a big city. The funny thing is no one in Orlando gives a crap about you. You don't deserve an invite & you know it.

Actually, UCF and Houston bring BCS points. ECU does not have any.

You do realize that BCS points are accumulated through all games over a # of years right? It's not just rankings that give you BCS Points and Houston hasn't finished a season ranked since the last time ECU did (though I fully expect them to finish this year ranked) which was long before the period that counts. I'm also fairly certain that BCS points count for the conference they are gained in. So I'm not sure anyone is bringing BCS points to the BE.

(10-31-2011 10:52 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  3. UCF: Decent sized city with a couple of theme parks.

And, some of those theme parks are owned by the same company (Disney) that owns ESPN's a** (I'd say they own ESPN's soul, but for that to be true, ESPN would need to have a soul)

(10-31-2011 09:04 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 08:50 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 08:35 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 08:19 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I get so tired of seeing this type of sh!t. I sometime wish you guys would just go ahead and get out so the rest of us can move on. This kind of sh!t is distracting as hell for the rest of the league. These kind of actions show no respect for the conference as a whole. I'm just in shock that a lot of you still want to go to a conference ran by basketball playing schools that will not retain BCS status after 2013. Even if you do go to the Big East you cant get there until 2013....same time the AQ is leaving. Have fun.

It is all about money and perception. Although the "New Big East" will not be a juggernaut of a conference it will still be better from top to bottom than the CUSA/MWC merger and the money will still be substantially better. Also Memphis and Temple have had their politicians get involved as well. So it is not just ECU....The bottom line, if you are not included now it may never happen. Even though there is a good chance the Big East will remain unstable it is a chance that needs to be taken.

The "money and perception" left with Pitt, Syracuse, TCU, and WVU. That's the reality and that's not including Louisville and UConn trying there best to get out.

You are right to a certain extent but the Big East will still be higher profile and will provide its members with more money as well.

It'll be higher profile until the luster wears off. Reality should set in just about time for the BCS to be renewed.

Why is this thread still here?

(10-31-2011 10:52 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I hate to drag all of UCF into this because of one poster, but I can think of more reasons for almost every school in the conference to be BCS over UCF. I'll just name the other two that are going to leave.

1. Houston: football history, Heisman winner, has been ranked 15 times with the highest being 4th, 4 members of the collegiate football HOF, and basketball history. Also in the nations 4th largest city where if they do well enough, they can play in Reliant or the Astrodome. May I say that they also should've been in the Big 12 to begin with?

2. SMU: football history, 3 national championships, Heisman winner, and 10 college HOF members. Just outside the 9th largest city in the nation where when they go against certain opponents, they can use Cowboys Stadium or the Cotton Bowl. If they didn't get caught with huge violations they may have held the SWC together or at least gone to the Big 12.

3. UCF: Decent sized city with a couple of theme parks.

Do you want to go there? Wow, just cut your throat and jump in shark waters bc post like that will get attn and UCFers who would be good sport 99 percent of time will rub the salt if ECU is NOT invited.

Uh, UCF hasn't been invited yet.

(11-01-2011 07:10 AM)Krights_Kross Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 10:52 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I hate to drag all of UCF into this because of one poster, but I can think of more reasons for almost every school in the conference to be BCS over UCF. I'll just name the other two that are going to leave.

1. Houston: football history, Heisman winner, has been ranked 15 times with the highest being 4th, 4 members of the collegiate football HOF, and basketball history. Also in the nations 4th largest city where if they do well enough, they can play in Reliant or the Astrodome. May I say that they also should've been in the Big 12 to begin with?

2. SMU: football history, 3 national championships, Heisman winner, and 10 college HOF members. Just outside the 9th largest city in the nation where when they go against certain opponents, they can use Cowboys Stadium or the Cotton Bowl. If they didn't get caught with huge violations they may have held the SWC together or at least gone to the Big 12.

3. UCF: Decent sized city with a couple of theme parks.

Do you want to go there? Wow, just cut your throat and jump in shark waters bc post like that will get attn and UCFers who would be good sport 99 percent of time will rub the salt if ECU is NOT invited.

How are you certain that UCF is one of the schools being invited? Message board and ESPN rumors? lol, you (and many others) have fallen for the "looks like we're being invited" trick yet again.

Oh, and btw...what was not honest about nomad's post?

This is just a smack thead and should be moved!!!

(11-01-2011 07:45 AM)ECU_Drummer Wrote:  

(11-01-2011 07:10 AM)Krights_Kross Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 10:52 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I hate to drag all of UCF into this because of one poster, but I can think of more reasons for almost every school in the conference to be BCS over UCF. I'll just name the other two that are going to leave.

1. Houston: football history, Heisman winner, has been ranked 15 times with the highest being 4th, 4 members of the collegiate football HOF, and basketball history. Also in the nations 4th largest city where if they do well enough, they can play in Reliant or the Astrodome. May I say that they also should've been in the Big 12 to begin with?

2. SMU: football history, 3 national championships, Heisman winner, and 10 college HOF members. Just outside the 9th largest city in the nation where when they go against certain opponents, they can use Cowboys Stadium or the Cotton Bowl. If they didn't get caught with huge violations they may have held the SWC together or at least gone to the Big 12.

3. UCF: Decent sized city with a couple of theme parks.

Do you want to go there? Wow, just cut your throat and jump in shark waters bc post like that will get attn and UCFers who would be good sport 99 percent of time will rub the salt if ECU is NOT invited.

How are you certain that UCF is one of the schools being invited? Message board and ESPN rumors? lol, you (and many others) have fallen for the "looks like we're being invited" trick yet again.

Oh, and btw...what was not honest about nomad's post?

OK you want to go there. The problem at ECU is Greenville or Green_vile, been there and it fine attm for smaller town schools but when you are used to city... it blows. I don't know if your town folk dress down or just dont' bath much but stale beer and trash that is Greenvile to me. You all need to power wash your entire town including its residents.

Sad thing is its your town but FAU/FIU/Charlotte all will be better expansion programs in 8 years.

(10-31-2011 08:37 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  [quote='Ersatz' pid='7057833' dateline='1320111263']
BE is MUCH better travel for ECU than the current CUSA... almost all our opponents are within 600 miles

Boise and Air force are red herrings for travel. All sports won't go there just football. In Cusa all sports have to go to UTEP. I will miss Cusa if we get the call, but if it comes you have to take it.

(11-01-2011 07:55 AM)Krights_Kross Wrote:  

(11-01-2011 07:45 AM)ECU_Drummer Wrote:  

(11-01-2011 07:10 AM)Krights_Kross Wrote:  

(10-31-2011 10:52 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I hate to drag all of UCF into this because of one poster, but I can think of more reasons for almost every school in the conference to be BCS over UCF. I'll just name the other two that are going to leave.

1. Houston: football history, Heisman winner, has been ranked 15 times with the highest being 4th, 4 members of the collegiate football HOF, and basketball history. Also in the nations 4th largest city where if they do well enough, they can play in Reliant or the Astrodome. May I say that they also should've been in the Big 12 to begin with?

2. SMU: football history, 3 national championships, Heisman winner, and 10 college HOF members. Just outside the 9th largest city in the nation where when they go against certain opponents, they can use Cowboys Stadium or the Cotton Bowl. If they didn't get caught with huge violations they may have held the SWC together or at least gone to the Big 12.

3. UCF: Decent sized city with a couple of theme parks.

Do you want to go there? Wow, just cut your throat and jump in shark waters bc post like that will get attn and UCFers who would be good sport 99 percent of time will rub the salt if ECU is NOT invited.

How are you certain that UCF is one of the schools being invited? Message board and ESPN rumors? lol, you (and many others) have fallen for the "looks like we're being invited" trick yet again.

Oh, and btw...what was not honest about nomad's post?

OK you want to go there. The problem at ECU is Greenville or Green_vile, been there and it fine attm for smaller town schools but when you are used to city... it blows. I don't know if your town folk dress down or just dont' bath much but stale beer and trash that is Greenvile to me. You all need to power wash your entire town including its residents.

Sad thing is its your town but FAU/FIU/Charlotte all will be better expansion programs in 8 years.

Woah, you really hurt me there. Greenville isn't a shiny silver town? What a shock!

Have fun with your glorified tech college in a city with no support. There's a reason ECU outdraws UCF on saturdays, and its not because there isn't anything else to do. Its what a college town is supposed to be. Its small and it revolves around the university.

Then again, maybe the big city model is what we should strive for...you know, 1mil+ population and can't even fill up a brand new 40k+ seat stadium. Trust me though, you'll fit right in with the Big East. The only program that consistently draws a good crowd was WVU, and they're gone. Now you won't feel so bad travelling to other schools and seeing the stadium at 60% capacity on a good day because it will be just like home.

Do you want me to continue?

This just in.......UCFL still doesn't have the stones to change his sig to this year's schedule.

(11-01-2011 10:00 AM)pir84life Wrote:  This just in.......UCFL still doesn't have the stones to change his sig to this year's schedule.

Not surprising. Seems pretty characteristic of most UCF fans. That joker who "wanted to go there" still hasn't returned.