I agree with rabidTU.

The last round of raids made sense because those schools were definitely getting a better deal. We think the 3 schools leaving this time are making a huge mistake. Have fun in the BE. Don't forget to write those checks when you leave. We'll find teams that are like 2004 UCF and SMU to replace you if need be.

I wish them all well until we meet on the field, court, or diamond.

(10-30-2011 01:34 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-30-2011 12:44 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  

(10-30-2011 12:35 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  Do you really have to ask this question???? It is a very simple answer.

I'm curious to know the answer.

Jealousy...

(10-30-2011 12:26 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  What's with all the hate toward UCF, UH, and SMU?

While I understand that the remaining schools don't want those schools to leave the conference, can you blame them for leaving if they do get invites? ECU, USM, Marshall, Memphis, or the rest would also move if they got an invite. I haven't seen any disrespect from UCF, UH, or SMU. Most of those fans are happy to have been part of C-USA, they're not bashing C-USA.

I have seen disagreement over the Alliance, but I don't see any reason for animosity. The Alliance could possibly earn an AQ bid one day (which I am doubtful of), or it could create a new subdivision like I-AA, it's a gamble but it could payoff. Reasonable people can disagree about the Alliance, so why the hate?

I haven't seen UCF, UH, or SMU looking down on C-USA. Most of them like C-USA and the remaining schools. Personally I'd like ECU, Memphis, Marshall, and USM to be conference mates in a new eastern conference (or big east). I've also enjoyed playing the west schools.

Calling the schools traitors for doing what is in their best interest and something that your own schools would do seems ridiculous. Can't we all just get along?

No one is blaming these schools for looking at different conference options... all of us have.

1) The problem on this board is that some of the fans of these schools bloat about their program like they were chosen to go to the Big East because they were/are better quality programs. Quite simply, they aren't. They are only getting a look from the Big East because the Big East is falling apart and are desperately trying to replace teams. Your team only fits because they happen to like your program's market. Some of these school's fans need to drop the arrogance in their comments and show some respect.

2) There is no team in CUSA currently or in the future that couldn't beat any/all of the Big East's teams. Most of the fans outside of UCF, SMU, and Houston don't view the Big East as a promotion... it's a lateral move at best. So, excuse my lack of enthusiasm towards these schools which hijack our boards and want to discuss the topic constantly. We really don't care.

The Big East is now the post-realignment MAC with an AQ bid. Sometimes they have a really good team that goes on to do great things. Most of the time they get the crap kicked out of them by everyone else.

Not much to say. When a sad and pathetic excuse for a AQ BCS Conference such as the New Big East sends you an invite you have to say yes. Just the reality of what College Sports has become. In the messageboard world it is expected that you get a hand full of douche bags from the schools invited that want to rub it into the noses of those left behind. Lot of good posters from the schools that are leaving so you have to take that into consideration as well. CUSA will move on as will the Big East. Lot of pieces still to be moved around so I have no doubt that a few schools who think they are moving on to bigger and better will watch their new Conference mates move on to what they think are bigger and better options in the near future. I am happy that UH, SMU and UCF are getting a shot. Quite frankly it makes me frustrated when the talking heads say a league like CUSA or MWC does not deserve AQ BCS Status but the new Big East with 6 CUSA schools now gets to keep one. The only thing that really makes me scratch my head with the new Big East is the addition of 3 Military Schools for FB only when they add nothing of real quality.

Jesus Christ, how many times do we have to hear, "if your team got an invite you would leave too" crap or "why can't all get along stuff".

When does this useless thread gets moved to the smackboard?

(10-30-2011 01:46 PM)noskcaj001 Wrote:  

(10-30-2011 12:26 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  What's with all the hate toward UCF, UH, and SMU?

While I understand that the remaining schools don't want those schools to leave the conference, can you blame them for leaving if they do get invites? ECU, USM, Marshall, Memphis, or the rest would also move if they got an invite. I haven't seen any disrespect from UCF, UH, or SMU. Most of those fans are happy to have been part of C-USA, they're not bashing C-USA.

I have seen disagreement over the Alliance, but I don't see any reason for animosity. The Alliance could possibly earn an AQ bid one day (which I am doubtful of), or it could create a new subdivision like I-AA, it's a gamble but it could payoff. Reasonable people can disagree about the Alliance, so why the hate?

I haven't seen UCF, UH, or SMU looking down on C-USA. Most of them like C-USA and the remaining schools. Personally I'd like ECU, Memphis, Marshall, and USM to be conference mates in a new eastern conference (or big east). I've also enjoyed playing the west schools.

Calling the schools traitors for doing what is in their best interest and something that your own schools would do seems ridiculous. Can't we all just get along?

No one is blaming these schools for looking at different conference options... all of us have.

1) The problem on this board is that some of the fans of these schools bloat about their program like they were chosen to go to the Big East because they were/are better quality programs. Quite simply, they aren't. They are only getting a look from the Big East because the Big East is falling apart and are desperately trying to replace teams. Your team only fits because they happen to like your program's market. Some of these school's fans need to drop the arrogance in their comments and show some respect.

2) There is no team in CUSA currently or in the future that couldn't beat any/all of the Big East's teams. Most of the fans outside of UCF, SMU, and Houston don't view the Big East as a promotion... it's a lateral move at best. So, excuse my lack of enthusiasm towards these schools which hijack our boards and want to discuss the topic constantly. We really don't care.

Point #1 is nothing but the truth. How many other schools have we heard about in rumors? MD? Notre Dame? Penn St.?

I agree with point #2. I can agree with being excited for moving to a new conference, but damn...we still have games going on.

I think one key point is being overlooked. If UCF, SMU & Houston would all sign a pact w/ all CUSA & MWC teams to agree to stay today, then all of CUSA & MWC would win. The Big East would be sunk. CUSA/MWC would beAQ & have new bigger TV contract. Therefore, the rest of CUSA is paying a big price for these 3 teams to leave. That is a big source of anger.

No jealousy here. In fact, if any of them went to the Big XII, I'd be the 1st to congratulate them. BUT to me, the BE has been the biggest symbol of what is wrong with college athletics. It started with bball, and now i hear them crying about what is being done to them, but the hypocrates do the same.

When the MWC was probing about UTEP joining, UTEP DID NOT forget what happened in the past. I think the same will apply here.

What does this guy have to do with anything?

you know it also has to do with company. If you disregard cash, tv appearances, bowl opportunities, and everything within college football politics, ask any team if they'd rather play in front ~3,000 fans at UAB, Rice, Tulane, or UL, Boise, Rutgers, etc.

(10-30-2011 12:26 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  What's with all the hate toward UCF, UH, and SMU?

While I understand that the remaining schools don't want those schools to leave the conference, can you blame them for leaving if they do get invites? ECU, USM, Marshall, Memphis, or the rest would also move if they got an invite. I haven't seen any disrespect from UCF, UH, or SMU. Most of those fans are happy to have been part of C-USA, they're not bashing C-USA.

I have seen disagreement over the Alliance, but I don't see any reason for animosity. The Alliance could possibly earn an AQ bid one day (which I am doubtful of), or it could create a new subdivision like I-AA, it's a gamble but it could payoff. Reasonable people can disagree about the Alliance, so why the hate?

I haven't seen UCF, UH, or SMU looking down on C-USA. Most of them like C-USA and the remaining schools. Personally I'd like ECU, Memphis, Marshall, and USM to be conference mates in a new eastern conference (or big east). I've also enjoyed playing the west schools.

Calling the schools traitors for doing what is in their best interest and something that your own schools would do seems ridiculous. Can't we all just get along?

I agree WOW at the hate. I guess UCF will not miss CUSA either, since we showed up at CUSA we have been treated like crap by other programs and their fans. Its OK, the tide will turn and those UCFers who are blindly nice will not be as much.

No wonder the old CUSA programs look down upon CUSA members. In my world when someone got the promotion we were both up for, you just say good luck.

You got to remember the people who you are hating on will have voting rights in the next wave of expansion. Shortsighted hatred I say.

(10-30-2011 03:28 PM)the1sttransport Wrote:  you know it also has to do with company. If you disregard cash, tv appearances, bowl opportunities, and everything within college football politics, ask any team if they'd rather play in front ~3,000 fans at UAB, Rice, Tulane, or UL, Boise, Rutgers, etc.

Your comparing the bottom teams in CUSA to the last two "good" teams in the Big East and the perennial BCS buster in the WAC/MWC. Doesn't work like that.

Playing at ECU or USM is just as good as playing at UofL or Rutgers.

(10-30-2011 03:12 PM)Tulsafanzz Wrote:  I think one key point is being overlooked. If UCF, SMU & Houston would all sign a pact w/ all CUSA & MWC teams to agree to stay today, then all of CUSA & MWC would win. The Big East would be sunk. CUSA/MWC would be AQ & have new bigger TV contract. Therefore, the rest of CUSA is paying a big price for these 3 teams to leave. That is a big source of anger.

I see it as a classic prisoner's dilemma, if we get the invite and don't go, someone else will. Whether it is ECU, USM, Memphis, or Temple. And I do honestly believe the Alliance will be more negative than positive. I'm hopeful it will pay off for everyone, but very very skeptical. The BE while risky is AQ for now, and for UCF, we get to renew the rivalry with USF.

(10-30-2011 01:40 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  I wish them all well until we meet on the field, court, or diamond.

Yeah, I don't really care. We've been down this road before. Many called us CDOA. Yet here are, better bowls, better TV contract, and deep into the season the chance that two ranked teams will meet in our CG.

Rebuilding is not easy. Will be harder this time. But nothing has been easy for Southern Miss football. Nothing.

(10-30-2011 01:17 PM)knightalum74 Wrote:  I understand the frustration for some of you USM fans, but all of these decisions are way above our pay grade....

You don't have a clue about our frustration. Not a clue. If you did, you would not have never author'd this thread.

(10-30-2011 04:42 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(10-30-2011 01:40 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  I wish them all well until we meet on the field, court, or diamond.

Yeah, I don't really care. We've been down this road before. Many called us CDOA. Yet here are, better bowls, better TV contract, and deep into the season the chance that two ranked teams will meet in our CG.

Rebuilding is not easy. Will be harder this time. But nothing has been easy for Southern Miss football. Nothing.

Yet you guys just keep on winning with the smallest athletic budget in the conference. If there was any justice in the kingdom of football USM and ECU would be the first tickets punched to an AQ conference. No one can reasonably argue with that.

(10-30-2011 03:29 PM)Krights_Kross Wrote:  You got to remember the people who you are hating on will have voting rights in the next wave of expansion. Shortsighted hatred I say.

That proves you must be 14? 13???

Fans on message boards don't have a say, one way or the other.

Good grief.

The bottom line is UCF, Houston and SMU fans have, for years, bemoaned the inequities of the BCS AQ system just like the rest of us. The opportunity is in front of us all to actually kill an AQ football conference but instead of taking advantage of that opportunity they join that which they have railed against.

If no CUSA or MWC team would join the Big East they would be out of business as a football conference. Louisville, USF, Rutgers, Uconn and Cincinnati would have to come, hat in hand, asking for our help. Letting that opportunity slip away due to 3 schools being too blind to see it is the real source of frustration (at least for me).