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Well premature but a reality
http://www.athlonsports.com/college-foot...ing-search
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Ron English, head coach, Eastern Michigan – English has resurrected Eastern Michigan into a MAC West title contender this year. Through eight games, the Eagles are a respectable 5-3. While five wins may not seem like much, the last time Eastern Michigan had more than four wins was in 1995. English may not be on Ohio State’s radar, but he’s due for a shot at a BCS school.
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-28-2011 07:22 AM)Ninkonpoopersnap Wrote: http://www.athlonsports.com/college-foot...ing-search
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Ron English, head coach, Eastern Michigan – English has resurrected Eastern Michigan into a MAC West title contender this year. Through eight games, the Eagles are a respectable 5-3. While five wins may not seem like much, the last time Eastern Michigan had more than four wins was in 1995. English may not be on Ohio State’s radar, but he’s due for a shot at a BCS school.
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No, please, not yet! I hope RE won't jump quickly. He can be a legend at EMU and without him EMU would still be in the dumps. Even now, the job is not finished, and I hope he'll see out his contract, at the very least, and perhaps become a fixture.
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10-28-2011 10:37 AM |
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Bob Wickersham
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RE: Well premature but a reality
Yeah, get used to it. As I said a few weeks ago, the reality in the MAC is that if you are successful and relatively young, you will be in high demand. The days of successful MAC lifers like Herb Deromedi are long gone, unfortunately. Especially at Eastern, where NOBODY thought a turnaround was possible, except us fans.
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10-28-2011 11:36 AM |
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Bob Wickersham
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RE: Well premature but a reality
I thought Ben Braun would stick around and continue his good thing but money talk$, ALWAYS.
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10-28-2011 11:38 AM |
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RE: Well premature but a reality
Ron English is not going anywhere this year. He has done a great job but our SOS was not good. Even if we finish 9-3, he will be back. Now let's concentrate on football :-)
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10-28-2011 12:55 PM |
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-28-2011 12:55 PM)luckeyone1 Wrote: Ron English is not going anywhere this year. He has done a great job but our SOS was not good. Even if we finish 9-3, he will be back. Now let's concentrate on football :-)
Even if he goes 9-3? Let's just say I'd love to find out! And don't get me wrong, I hope you're right... (but I wouldn't bet on it).
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10-28-2011 02:17 PM |
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RE: Well premature but a reality
With a majority of his starters coming back next year (9 on offense, 7 on defense), I think he'll stick around for at least one more season to try and improve on our current success.
(This post was last modified: 10-28-2011 03:01 PM by EagleSam.)
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10-28-2011 02:59 PM |
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-28-2011 11:38 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote: I thought Ben Braun would stick around and continue his good thing but money talk$, ALWAYS.
He won the league title his first full season and stayed ten years I believe. That is a long time and more than we could expect.
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-28-2011 12:55 PM)luckeyone1 Wrote: Ron English is not going anywhere this year. He has done a great job but our SOS was not good. Even if we finish 9-3, he will be back. Now let's concentrate on football :-)
Almost certainly he will be. Ohio State? OSU will want a high profile coach, someone they can steal from another top 30 or 40 program.
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10-28-2011 04:54 PM |
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-28-2011 04:54 PM)ljmhurons Wrote: (10-28-2011 12:55 PM)luckeyone1 Wrote: Ron English is not going anywhere this year. He has done a great job but our SOS was not good. Even if we finish 9-3, he will be back. Now let's concentrate on football :-)
Almost certainly he will be. Ohio State? OSU will want a high profile coach, someone they can steal from another top 30 or 40 program.
I would believe it is silly for us to think that other colleges will not look at Coach English as a option for their football program. I think we should just hope if he does leave EMU that EMU administration replaces him with a coach who has the same energy and commitment to winning that he has.
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10-28-2011 05:42 PM |
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-28-2011 05:42 PM)NUPudge Wrote: (10-28-2011 04:54 PM)ljmhurons Wrote: (10-28-2011 12:55 PM)luckeyone1 Wrote: Ron English is not going anywhere this year. He has done a great job but our SOS was not good. Even if we finish 9-3, he will be back. Now let's concentrate on football :-)
Almost certainly he will be. Ohio State? OSU will want a high profile coach, someone they can steal from another top 30 or 40 program.
I would believe it is silly for us to think that other colleges will not look at Coach English as a option for their football program. I think we should just hope if he does leave EMU that EMU administration replaces him with a coach who has the same energy and commitment to winning that he has.
In 32 games as a head coach he has 7 wins. As DC his defenses at wolverweenieville were great and got dramatically worse. At Louisville the D was weak. It's not a sterling record.
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10-28-2011 09:57 PM |
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RE: Well premature but a reality
It's all about timing and upside of a person. Similar to recruiting you don't look at a kid for where he is currently, but you try to determine what his is upside along with his character, Disciple, love of the game etc...
I am not saying he will leave only that other school will look at him and could ask about interviewing for a HC job..
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10-29-2011 04:46 AM |
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-28-2011 05:42 PM)NUPudge Wrote: (10-28-2011 04:54 PM)ljmhurons Wrote: (10-28-2011 12:55 PM)luckeyone1 Wrote: Ron English is not going anywhere this year. He has done a great job but our SOS was not good. Even if we finish 9-3, he will be back. Now let's concentrate on football :-)
Almost certainly he will be. Ohio State? OSU will want a high profile coach, someone they can steal from another top 30 or 40 program.
I would believe it is silly for us to think that other colleges will not look at Coach English as a option for their football program. I think we should just hope if he does leave EMU that EMU administration replaces him with a coach who has the same energy and commitment to winning that he has.
Lots of guys have energy and commitment to winning. English has integrity, and that's a rarer commodity among big-time coaches.
I would argue that that makes for better prospects of long-term success. In any case, it makes it much easier to root for the man his team.
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10-29-2011 08:41 AM |
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-28-2011 09:57 PM)ljmhurons Wrote: (10-28-2011 05:42 PM)NUPudge Wrote: (10-28-2011 04:54 PM)ljmhurons Wrote: (10-28-2011 12:55 PM)luckeyone1 Wrote: Ron English is not going anywhere this year. He has done a great job but our SOS was not good. Even if we finish 9-3, he will be back. Now let's concentrate on football :-)
Almost certainly he will be. Ohio State? OSU will want a high profile coach, someone they can steal from another top 30 or 40 program.
I would believe it is silly for us to think that other colleges will not look at Coach English as a option for their football program. I think we should just hope if he does leave EMU that EMU administration replaces him with a coach who has the same energy and commitment to winning that he has.
In 32 games as a head coach he has 7 wins. As DC his defenses at wolverweenieville were great and got dramatically worse. At Louisville the D was weak. It's not a sterling record.
Why, then, did Carr want him as his replacement at UM?
He was actually an excellent DC at Michigan. His final season they struggled, largely due to injuries, and partly due to the effects of having a head coach that everyone knew was in his last season.
In his final game, against Florida, when the team was healthy, they were outstanding.
Sure, he's got a lot left to prove at EMU; the bandwagon is a little out of control at the moment. But, I believe there will soon be abundant evidence that he's a top-notch coach.
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-29-2011 04:46 AM)NUPudge Wrote: It's all about timing and upside of a person. Similar to recruiting you don't look at a kid for where he is currently, but you try to determine what his is upside along with his character, Disciple, love of the game etc...
I am not saying he will leave only that other school will look at him and could ask about interviewing for a HC job..
http://www.mlive.com/eagles/index.ssf/20...rse_e.html
He was signed to a 5-year contract.
Wonder if the school can afford to extend and add $ to his contract?
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-28-2011 09:57 PM)ljmhurons Wrote: (10-28-2011 05:42 PM)NUPudge Wrote: (10-28-2011 04:54 PM)ljmhurons Wrote: (10-28-2011 12:55 PM)luckeyone1 Wrote: Ron English is not going anywhere this year. He has done a great job but our SOS was not good. Even if we finish 9-3, he will be back. Now let's concentrate on football :-)
Almost certainly he will be. Ohio State? OSU will want a high profile coach, someone they can steal from another top 30 or 40 program.
I would believe it is silly for us to think that other colleges will not look at Coach English as a option for their football program. I think we should just hope if he does leave EMU that EMU administration replaces him with a coach who has the same energy and commitment to winning that he has.
In 32 games as a head coach he has 7 wins. As DC his defenses at wolverweenieville were great and got dramatically worse. At Louisville the D was weak. It's not a sterling record.
Um, most experts realized he was not inheriting LSU's program when he was hired here. The tried and true "eyeball test" suggests that what he's accomplished so far this year, compared to what he had 2 years ago is pretty amazing, he's weeded out the quitters and has his kind of players now. There are no gimmicks with the program, he's built this thing on toughness.
I will agree that his overrall record may keep him at Eastern a bit longer. Remember the heat Auburn caught when they hired Gene Chizik away from Iowa State with his horrible record? 10-26 would be tough to sell to a fanbase, no matter the circumstances.
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RE: Well premature but a reality
(10-29-2011 08:47 AM)michman83 Wrote: (10-28-2011 09:57 PM)ljmhurons Wrote: (10-28-2011 05:42 PM)NUPudge Wrote: (10-28-2011 04:54 PM)ljmhurons Wrote: (10-28-2011 12:55 PM)luckeyone1 Wrote: Ron English is not going anywhere this year. He has done a great job but our SOS was not good. Even if we finish 9-3, he will be back. Now let's concentrate on football :-)
Almost certainly he will be. Ohio State? OSU will want a high profile coach, someone they can steal from another top 30 or 40 program.
I would believe it is silly for us to think that other colleges will not look at Coach English as a option for their football program. I think we should just hope if he does leave EMU that EMU administration replaces him with a coach who has the same energy and commitment to winning that he has.
In 32 games as a head coach he has 7 wins. As DC his defenses at wolverweenieville were great and got dramatically worse. At Louisville the D was weak. It's not a sterling record.
Why, then, did Carr want him as his replacement at UM?
He was actually an excellent DC at Michigan. His final season they struggled, largely due to injuries, and partly due to the effects of having a head coach that everyone knew was in his last season.
In his final game, against Florida, when the team was healthy, they were outstanding.
Sure, he's got a lot left to prove at EMU; the bandwagon is a little out of control at the moment. But, I believe there will soon be abundant evidence that he's a top-notch coach.
His D was bad because Carr wasn't going to be the coach next year? That's absurd.
Ranked number five in the nation, English's vaunted D gave up nearly 400 yards to Appalachian State, 70 of them coming in the waning moments of the game when they failed to preserve a victory and ASU kicked the winning field goal. There's nothing better than seeing David slay Goliath and cut his head off.
I don't know what your measure is for "outstanding," but in his last game for wolverweenieville, English's D gave up 400 yards and 35 points.
English may yet prove himself to be a good head coach, but it's been slow going at EMU. After two years of measureable regression, he's at least got them pointed in the right direction.
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