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Honest Question
Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
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CajunT
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
The short answer to you is no, it would not. The Cajuns are bowl eligible now and short of crashing into a wall, we will win at least 2 more games. New Orleans Bowl representatives were in attendance for the North Texas game and made it clear to our administration UL is their first choice. They are not obligated to take the Sun Belt Champion. You see attendance actually does matter, as does season ticket sales. So save your money, I hear its squirrel season anyway.
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 10:37 AM)CajunT Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
The short answer to you is no, it would not. The Cajuns are bowl eligible now and short of crashing into a wall, we will win at least 2 more games. New Orleans Bowl representatives were in attendance for the North Texas game and made it clear to our administration UL is their first choice. They are not obligated to take the Sun Belt Champion. You see attendance actually does matter, as does season ticket sales. So save your money, I hear its squirrel season anyway.
What are the point of tie breakers and finishing first and second then if you aren't guaranteed a bowl? Isn't it that the first and second finisher have to be in a bowl and then the New Orleans Bowl can take who they want? If that's the case, then I can see why the New Orleans Bowl would want the Cajuns, because you would for sure put more in attendance than anyone else in the conference. In fact, I think that was what ULM was told if the ULL hadn't beaten us last year in the last game. I believe we would have been in the New Orleans Bowl and FIU would have been in Detroit. I guess that is the scenario that would occur if what I described above would happen this year.
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 10:37 AM)CajunT Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
The short answer to you is no, it would not. The Cajuns are bowl eligible now and short of crashing into a wall, we will win at least 2 more games. New Orleans Bowl representatives were in attendance for the North Texas game and made it clear to our administration UL is their first choice. They are not obligated to take the Sun Belt Champion. You see attendance actually does matter, as does season ticket sales. So save your money, I hear its squirrel season anyway.
and instead of answering the man's question with you opinion and letting it go at that you have to come across and smarmy and insulting. Good Lord!!
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 10:51 AM)InjunJohn Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:37 AM)CajunT Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
The short answer to you is no, it would not. The Cajuns are bowl eligible now and short of crashing into a wall, we will win at least 2 more games. New Orleans Bowl representatives were in attendance for the North Texas game and made it clear to our administration UL is their first choice. They are not obligated to take the Sun Belt Champion. You see attendance actually does matter, as does season ticket sales. So save your money, I hear its squirrel season anyway.
and instead of answering the man's question with you opinion and letting it go at that you have to come across and smarmy and insulting. Good Lord!!
InjunJohn stated, totally ignoring the last sentence of his post, "Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire."
A dig is a dig bubba! Thanks
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 11:07 AM)CajunT Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:51 AM)InjunJohn Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:37 AM)CajunT Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
The short answer to you is no, it would not. The Cajuns are bowl eligible now and short of crashing into a wall, we will win at least 2 more games. New Orleans Bowl representatives were in attendance for the North Texas game and made it clear to our administration UL is their first choice. They are not obligated to take the Sun Belt Champion. You see attendance actually does matter, as does season ticket sales. So save your money, I hear its squirrel season anyway.
and instead of answering the man's question with you opinion and letting it go at that you have to come across and smarmy and insulting. Good Lord!!
InjunJohn stated, totally ignoring the last sentence of his post, "Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire."
A dig is a dig bubba! Thanks
Fair enough...but it is a recurring habit with you CajunT. Just my personal opinion, bubba!! Thanks
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 10:37 AM)CajunT Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
The short answer to you is no, it would not. The Cajuns are bowl eligible now and short of crashing into a wall, we will win at least 2 more games. New Orleans Bowl representatives were in attendance for the North Texas game and made it clear to our administration UL is their first choice. They are not obligated to take the Sun Belt Champion. You see attendance actually does matter, as does season ticket sales. So save your money, I hear its squirrel season anyway.
And you wonder why nobody likes ULL fans
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RE: Honest Question
You guys have a little success and you turn into complete douchebags. A little humility goes a long ways.
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 11:51 AM)warhawk09 Wrote: You guys have a little success and you turn into complete douchebags. A little humility goes a long ways.
Let's see here, we "FINALLY" appear to be turning the corner in all facets as a complete athletic program, yet we are lucky to win every game. Kinda tiresome if you ask me.
ULM will never be selected for a bowl bid before the Cajuns even if both are eligible. But we are not the only school that would be selected over ULM either, MT, Troy and stAte would be as well. It has to do with butts in the seats. Last year with a bowl bid on the line, at home, against your biggest rival, in front of the New Orleans Bowl Committee you guys had 9000 in the seats with about 1000 being Cajun fans. That poor showing of fan support is a severe detractor for a bowl committee.
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 12:03 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (10-21-2011 11:51 AM)warhawk09 Wrote: You guys have a little success and you turn into complete douchebags. A little humility goes a long ways.
Let's see here, we "FINALLY" appear to be turning the corner in all facets as a complete athletic program, yet we are lucky to win every game. Kinda tiresome if you ask me.
ULM will never be selected for a bowl bid before the Cajuns even if both are eligible. But we are not the only school that would be selected over ULM either, MT, Troy and stAte would be as well. It has to do with butts in the seats. Last year with a bowl bid on the line, at home, against your biggest rival, in front of the New Orleans Bowl Committee you guys had 9000 in the seats with about 1000 being Cajun fans. That poor showing of fan support is a severe detractor for a bowl committee.
False, NO Bowl reps were not at that game and there were no where near 1,000 ULL fans. True that ULL would be selected over ULM for the NO Bowl.
Enjoy your success, but be civil about about it and more people might be willing to credit you for it.
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RE: Honest Question
Geeze........another ULL vs ULM food fight............
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 12:06 PM)MG61 Wrote: Geeze........another ULL vs ULM food fight............
And look once again who starts this crap. The original poster asked a legitimate question and it turned into this
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
Without getting into the UL vs UL debate, here is the way it works
First Pick New Orleans Bowl. They can pick from any bowl eligible team
Second Pick Go Daddy Bowl They must select the champion if the NO bowl doesnt pick them. If the NO Bowl takes the champ, Go Daddy gets choice of all available bowl teams
Champion is only Belt team guaranteed a conference bowl tie in
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 12:06 PM)warhawk09 Wrote: (10-21-2011 12:03 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote: (10-21-2011 11:51 AM)warhawk09 Wrote: You guys have a little success and you turn into complete douchebags. A little humility goes a long ways.
Let's see here, we "FINALLY" appear to be turning the corner in all facets as a complete athletic program, yet we are lucky to win every game. Kinda tiresome if you ask me.
ULM will never be selected for a bowl bid before the Cajuns even if both are eligible. But we are not the only school that would be selected over ULM either, MT, Troy and stAte would be as well. It has to do with butts in the seats. Last year with a bowl bid on the line, at home, against your biggest rival, in front of the New Orleans Bowl Committee you guys had 9000 in the seats with about 1000 being Cajun fans. That poor showing of fan support is a severe detractor for a bowl committee.
False, NO Bowl reps were not at that game and there were no where near 1,000 ULL fans. True that ULL would be selected over ULM for the NO Bowl.
Enjoy your success, but be civil about about it and more people might be willing to credit you for it.
According to our AD and play by play guy the NO Bowl committee were at the game.
I am civil, and my previous post was not meant to be a flame, but bowls are money makers for most cities so they want schools who brings the most fans and ULM has had problems in that department. Not a single ULM fan can dispute that fact, honestly I do not know what you guys can do to improve on your attendance either. Hopefully it works out for you guys, because it looks good for the conference.
If and this is a big if, the Cajuns can win the next two on the road, y'all come down to Lafayette and we will show you how it's done.
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 12:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
Without getting into the UL vs UL debate, here is the way it works
First Pick New Orleans Bowl. They can pick from any bowl eligible team
Second Pick Go Daddy Bowl They must select the champion if the NO bowl doesnt pick them. If the NO Bowl takes the champ, Go Daddy gets choice of all available bowl teams
Champion is only Belt team guaranteed a conference bowl tie in
Thank you for answering my question. That's honestly all I was wanting and was not wanting to start another fight. If that is the case, the I would agree that the Cajuns are a lock for the NOLA Bowl. And for the record, but Hotwire comment was not really a dig on the Cajuns, but a dig on the fact that they had already reserved there rooms with six games left in the season and a lot still on the table.
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 12:28 PM)Arrowhead Wrote: (10-21-2011 12:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
Without getting into the UL vs UL debate, here is the way it works
First Pick New Orleans Bowl. They can pick from any bowl eligible team
Second Pick Go Daddy Bowl They must select the champion if the NO bowl doesnt pick them. If the NO Bowl takes the champ, Go Daddy gets choice of all available bowl teams
Champion is only Belt team guaranteed a conference bowl tie in
Thank you for answering my question. That's honestly all I was wanting and was not wanting to start another fight. If that is the case, the I would agree that the Cajuns are a lock for the NOLA Bowl. And for the record, but Hotwire comment was not really a dig on the Cajuns, but a dig on the fact that they had already reserved there rooms with six games left in the season and a lot still on the table.
I have not reserved a room yet, but I will if and when the Cajuns win another game; hopefully tommorow. I think 7 wins is a NO Orleans lock, not necessarily 6. There are still a lot of games to play but I like our chances at getting 8 or more wins.
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RE: Honest Question
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 11:46 AM)warhawk09 Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:37 AM)CajunT Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
The short answer to you is no, it would not. The Cajuns are bowl eligible now and short of crashing into a wall, we will win at least 2 more games. New Orleans Bowl representatives were in attendance for the North Texas game and made it clear to our administration UL is their first choice. They are not obligated to take the Sun Belt Champion. You see attendance actually does matter, as does season ticket sales. So save your money, I hear its squirrel season anyway.
And you wonder why nobody likes ULL fans
And you wonder why everyone wants to get the hell away from ULM, major cry babies!
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RE: Honest Question
(10-21-2011 12:28 PM)Arrowhead Wrote: (10-21-2011 12:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-21-2011 10:15 AM)Arrowhead Wrote: Ok, I know it is foregone conclusion that the Cajuns are in the New Orleans Bowl, but what happens if the Troy game was the turning point for ULM and ULM was to win out and finishes 8-4 with one conference loss? Hypothetically let's say that ASU loses one conference game or goes undefeated and the Cajuns lose to ULM and ASU. In this scenario, ASU has the tie breaker over ULM. Who goes where? Logic says the New Orleans Bowl takes ULM, a Louisiana school, and ASU goes to Mobile. What about the Cajuns. Wouldn't this knock them out of the NOLA Bowl? I know its a lot of ifs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Buying rooms from Cajun fans for New Orleans would be cheaper than Hotwire. :)
Without getting into the UL vs UL debate, here is the way it works
First Pick New Orleans Bowl. They can pick from any bowl eligible team
Second Pick Go Daddy Bowl They must select the champion if the NO bowl doesnt pick them. If the NO Bowl takes the champ, Go Daddy gets choice of all available bowl teams
Champion is only Belt team guaranteed a conference bowl tie in
Thank you for answering my question. That's honestly all I was wanting and was not wanting to start another fight. If that is the case, the I would agree that the Cajuns are a lock for the NOLA Bowl. And for the record, but Hotwire comment was not really a dig on the Cajuns, but a dig on the fact that they had already reserved there rooms with six games left in the season and a lot still on the table.
Once again playing ignorant! Yea it wasn't a dig, whatever.
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