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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC Season 2
That scene with the people cringing under the crashed cars as the "herd" of walkers stumbled by was horrific. As was the final scene. Was the kid shot by a hunter?

But why do some of them seem to have some sort of intelligence, when the CDC guy showed the victims that the walkers have nothing more than brain stem activity?
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC Season 2
(10-17-2011 11:33 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  That scene with the people cringing under the crashed cars as the "herd" of walkers stumbled by was horrific. As was the final scene. Was the kid shot by a hunter?

But why do some of them seem to have some sort of intelligence, when the CDC guy showed the victims that the walkers have nothing more than brain stem activity?
The kid was shot by a hunter. The bullet passed through the deer first.

I don't think they have any more intelligence than the most basic animal. They smell or hear something that might be food and they chase it.
10-18-2011 09:48 AM
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC Season 2
(10-17-2011 11:33 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  That scene with the people cringing under the crashed cars as the "herd" of walkers stumbled by was horrific. As was the final scene. Was the kid shot by a hunter?

But why do some of them seem to have some sort of intelligence, when the CDC guy showed the victims that the walkers have nothing more than brain stem activity?

They have basic motor functions/needs. Animal instincts and rudimentary reasoning (trying to open a door) but no higher level brain functions. I think they basically function as pack animals with a drive to eat anything in their way.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC Season 2
(10-18-2011 09:53 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  
(10-17-2011 11:33 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  That scene with the people cringing under the crashed cars as the "herd" of walkers stumbled by was horrific. As was the final scene. Was the kid shot by a hunter?

But why do some of them seem to have some sort of intelligence, when the CDC guy showed the victims that the walkers have nothing more than brain stem activity?

They have basic motor functions/needs. Animal instincts and rudimentary reasoning (trying to open a door) but no higher level brain functions. I think they basically function as pack animals with a drive to eat anything in their way.
I have to explain to people that this isn't your typical horro movie zombie show. There isn't a mysterious spell that causes people to rise from the grave and crave brains. Using a virus that turns people into animals that eventually will decay into nothing makes it a little more "believable". You could replace the virus with bird flu or ebola and the storyline would be similar in that you would try to get away from the infected and everything would break down leaving only those who figured out how to survive.
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So, can the virus only be spread by a bite? I ask because that woman in the RV had that zombie's blood all over her, including right by (in?) her mouth.

That one zombie was "smart" enough to enter the RV, search around, hear tiny sounds and navigate that folding door. The others just went by.

If the hunter had the deer in his scope, surely he/she would have also seen the people behind it?

It probably won't happen (budget), but I would like to see what was happening in other parts of the country and world.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC Season 2
(10-18-2011 10:20 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(10-18-2011 09:53 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  
(10-17-2011 11:33 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  That scene with the people cringing under the crashed cars as the "herd" of walkers stumbled by was horrific. As was the final scene. Was the kid shot by a hunter?

But why do some of them seem to have some sort of intelligence, when the CDC guy showed the victims that the walkers have nothing more than brain stem activity?

They have basic motor functions/needs. Animal instincts and rudimentary reasoning (trying to open a door) but no higher level brain functions. I think they basically function as pack animals with a drive to eat anything in their way.
I have to explain to people that this isn't your typical horro movie zombie show. There isn't a mysterious spell that causes people to rise from the grave and crave brains. Using a virus that turns people into animals that eventually will decay into nothing makes it a little more "believable". You could replace the virus with bird flu or ebola and the storyline would be similar in that you would try to get away from the infected and everything would break down leaving only those who figured out how to survive.

If anyone saw Contagion its the same premise. The effects of society's break down are far worse than the disease
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(10-18-2011 10:38 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  So, can the virus only be spread by a bite? I ask because that woman in the RV had that zombie's blood all over her, including right by (in?) her mouth.

It would seem that ingesting zombie blood would be enough for an infection, but she would have already "turned" had she been infected. Most zombie fiction the blood is enough to cause an infection, remember the scene in 28 Days Later where the zombie blood fell from the crow's mouth into the guys eye?
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What did the CDC guy tell them?
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC Season 2
(10-18-2011 10:38 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  So, can the virus only be spread by a bite? I ask because that woman in the RV had that zombie's blood all over her, including right by (in?) her mouth.

That one zombie was "smart" enough to enter the RV, search around, hear tiny sounds and navigate that folding door. The others just went by.

If the hunter had the deer in his scope, surely he/she would have also seen the people behind it?

It probably won't happen (budget), but I would like to see what was happening in other parts of the country and world.
When they smeared zombie guts on thier clothes in the first season they were very careful not to get it on their skin if they could help it. I think it's likely that skin contact isn't enough but an open wound or sex with a hot zombie would do the trick.

The zombie in the RV heard her and he was sniffing around the door like an animal. He started pushing against the folding door, not turning a lock or knob or anything..

Sure, there are inconsistencies but it's TV and I haven't met a real zombie outside of Ruston so I will allow some license.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC Season 2
Oh, the deer shooting? I don't know where you are from but there is a reason hunters are required to wear orange. When you focus in on a deer in a scope, it's too easy to miss the background objects if they don't really stand out.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC Season 2
(10-18-2011 01:11 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(10-18-2011 10:38 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  So, can the virus only be spread by a bite? I ask because that woman in the RV had that zombie's blood all over her, including right by (in?) her mouth.

That one zombie was "smart" enough to enter the RV, search around, hear tiny sounds and navigate that folding door. The others just went by.

If the hunter had the deer in his scope, surely he/she would have also seen the people behind it?

It probably won't happen (budget), but I would like to see what was happening in other parts of the country and world.
When they smeared zombie guts on thier clothes in the first season they were very careful not to get it on their skin if they could help it. I think it's likely that skin contact isn't enough but an open wound or sex with a hot zombie would do the trick.

The zombie in the RV heard her and he was sniffing around the door like an animal. He started pushing against the folding door, not turning a lock or knob or anything..

Sure, there are inconsistencies but it's TV and I haven't met a real zombie outside of Ruston so I will allow some license.

03-lmfao

If you want to get a read on these zombies, think drunks coming out of a bar at around 3 in the morning....about the same mentality!!! 04-rock04-cheers
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(10-18-2011 11:10 AM)panama Wrote:  
(10-18-2011 10:20 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(10-18-2011 09:53 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  
(10-17-2011 11:33 PM)BMarkey Wrote:  That scene with the people cringing under the crashed cars as the "herd" of walkers stumbled by was horrific. As was the final scene. Was the kid shot by a hunter?

But why do some of them seem to have some sort of intelligence, when the CDC guy showed the victims that the walkers have nothing more than brain stem activity?

They have basic motor functions/needs. Animal instincts and rudimentary reasoning (trying to open a door) but no higher level brain functions. I think they basically function as pack animals with a drive to eat anything in their way.
I have to explain to people that this isn't your typical horro movie zombie show. There isn't a mysterious spell that causes people to rise from the grave and crave brains. Using a virus that turns people into animals that eventually will decay into nothing makes it a little more "believable". You could replace the virus with bird flu or ebola and the storyline would be similar in that you would try to get away from the infected and everything would break down leaving only those who figured out how to survive.

If anyone saw Contagion its the same premise. The effects of society's break down are far worse than the disease
Exactly. I prepare for the zombie apocalypse because that means I am prepared for any apocalypse.
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RE: OT: The Walking Dead on AMC Season 2
Couple of inconsistencies - in the first season - they had to put zombie blood all over their clothes to keep the smell of regular human away. When the herd came by - they just hide under the cars? That doesn't make sense. I know- it's a TV show about zombies, suspend the disbelief... but it does contradict what we "know" about the zombies. Also, was the show trying to send a message about the zombies sitting in church, quietly - like they were praying?

Also, they don't want to give the wife a gun because she would have tried to shoot the zombie and blow their cover??? Or is it that she might shoot herself? I was a little confused about that. Still don't know where the little girl went. I am assuming that she saw more zombies and ran to hide.

One last question - the redneck guy - is his brother still out there? I think that the humans are the ones broadcasting on the emergency broadcast network. Not sure how this will all work into the show but it will be interesting. I absolutely love this show. One of the best ones out there behind Breaking Bad.
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(10-18-2011 05:27 PM)stebo Wrote:  Couple of inconsistencies - in the first season - they had to put zombie blood all over their clothes to keep the smell of regular human away. When the herd came by - they just hide under the cars? That doesn't make sense. I know- it's a TV show about zombies, suspend the disbelief... but it does contradict what we "know" about the zombies. Also, was the show trying to send a message about the zombies sitting in church, quietly - like they were praying?

one way to explain this away is a greater understanding of how the zombies work with experience. early on they may not have understood exactly how the zombies perceived the world and thus went to greater lengths to protect themselves.

besides, they didn't have time to invest in camoflauge when they saw the herd coming their way. it was "hit the dirt" and hope the mortar misses mentality.
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(10-18-2011 05:27 PM)stebo Wrote:  Also, was the show trying to send a message about the zombies sitting in church, quietly - like they were praying?

I think the bell called them there. Something triggered inside them on where to be when they hear that bell. Conjecture.

Quote:Also, they don't want to give the wife a gun because she would have tried to shoot the zombie and blow their cover??? Or is it that she might shoot herself?

Both. I can't recall if everyone saw her "suicidal tendencies" after her sister was gone, or if it was just the old guy. The old guy mentioned suicide, the others mentioned blowing their cover.

Quote:One last question - the redneck guy - is his brother still out there?

Can't remember if they found any sign of his death. He's could be out there, or written away. (never read the graphic novel) I don't care either way. They'll find the girl, or replace her character with another kid. They need a pair. They'll eventually find the black guy and his son with the other walkie talkie.
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(10-18-2011 11:30 AM)panama Wrote:  What did the CDC guy tell them?

There's no hope and that he was giving up. Basically.
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My biggest question was the people who died in their cars. How does that happen, zombie or not.

BTW: Ft. Benning is about 120 miles SW of Atlanta, mostly on I-85. On the AL/GA border and not too far from Auburn, AL, just South of Columbus. Dunno if they'll make it there any time soon. I'd have picked one of the 3 or 4 bases closer than Benning.
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(10-19-2011 04:57 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  My biggest question was the people who died in their cars. How does that happen, zombie or not.

BTW: Ft. Benning is about 120 miles SW of Atlanta, mostly on I-85. On the AL/GA border and not too far from Auburn, AL, just South of Columbus. Dunno if they'll make it there any time soon. I'd have picked one of the 3 or 4 bases closer than Benning.

I'm from Columbus so it's pretty cool that all of this is taking place right around where I'm from. Sooo glad they chose Georgia as the setting for the show. I'm tired of LA, Chicago, and New York...
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Quote:When the herd came by - they just hide under the cars? That doesn't make sense. I know- it's a TV show about zombies, suspend the disbelief... but it does contradict what we "know" about the zombies. Also, was the show trying to send a message about the zombies sitting in church, quietly - like they were praying?

My take was that the smell of death in the vehicles, plus the smell of all the oil, gas, spoiled food and other automotive stuff might be enough to throw off the zombies' sniffers.

I could have sworn the CDC (Dr. Edwin Jenner) guy told them it was a virus but the official "overview" on the show's Web site doesn't say that.

Quote:When Jenner arrives, he leads the group to the control center, where he displays brain scans from "Test Subject 19," who was infected and allowed the process to be recorded.

The display shows the virus attacking the brain, which goes dark. Jenner fast-forwards to the "second event" — TS-19's resurrection. "It restarts the brain?" Lori asks. "Just the brainstem," Jenner corrects. "The human part, that doesn't come back."

Jenner admits he doesn't know what the disease is or how to treat it, and that he's lost contact with other facilities.

I'm not sure how just brain stem activity could bring those people to the church, but I guess we have to assume they are trained by the bell to come there, and maybe they have come to realize it also draws "food".
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