http://www.news-record.com/content/2011/...nod_to_ecu

Too high for my liking...I want 100% of the ACC to be against us.

(10-17-2011 12:14 AM)snowycuse Wrote:  Too high for my liking...I want 100% of the ACC to be against us.

I agree 100%

32% in favor, 26% against. 42% not sure, which pretty much means they're not sports fans.

welcome to the club....now you know how UC felt entering BE play

I am surprised that ECU got 49%. PPP is a polling group out of Chapel Hill that tends to cater to a more liberal crowd. ECU is not your typical choice of left leaning folks. To have nearly half have a positive opinion of ECU is shocking.

(10-17-2011 11:19 AM)Topcard91 Wrote:  I am surprised that ECU got 49%. PPP is a polling group out of Chapel Hill that tends to cater to a more liberal crowd. ECU is not your typical choice of left leaning folks. To have nearly half have a positive opinion of ECU is shocking.

The way I read it...49% were in favor of ECU joining the Big East. Not surprising in my mind.

To get half the people in Chapel Hill to even acknowledge something positive for ECU is amazing.

(10-17-2011 01:48 PM)Topcard91 Wrote:  To get half the people in Chapel Hill to even acknowledge something positive for ECU is amazing.

To get half the people in Chapel Hill to even acknowledge ECU is remarkable. Outside of the Triangle, very little exists in UNC's world.

(10-17-2011 11:19 AM)Topcard91 Wrote:  I am surprised that ECU got 49%. PPP is a polling group out of Chapel Hill that tends to cater to a more liberal crowd. ECU is not your typical choice of left leaning folks. To have nearly half have a positive opinion of ECU is shocking.

PPP is highly regarded for the objectivity of their work. They are associated with the Democratic party but they don't conduct push polls or rig the questions to dictate the outcome. I'm not sure where you get the idea that they polled people of a particular political persuasion. The sample groups come from registered voters all over NC, Democrats, Republicans, unafiliated, old, young, black, white, rural, urban. It's a scientific survey. The physical location of the company has nothing to do with the results. Why wouldn't ECU going to the BE be viewed posiitively by a variety of people in the state? I don't think "liberal" has anything to do with it.

(10-17-2011 01:48 PM)Topcard91 Wrote:  To get half the people in Chapel Hill to even acknowledge something positive for ECU is amazing.

You don't understand how polling works do you?

(10-19-2011 11:04 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(10-17-2011 11:19 AM)Topcard91 Wrote:  I am surprised that ECU got 49%. PPP is a polling group out of Chapel Hill that tends to cater to a more liberal crowd. ECU is not your typical choice of left leaning folks. To have nearly half have a positive opinion of ECU is shocking.

PPP is highly regarded for the objectivity of their work. They are associated with the Democratic party but they don't conduct push polls or rig the questions to dictate the outcome. I'm not sure where you get the idea that they polled people of a particular political persuasion. The sample groups come from registered voters all over NC, Democrats, Republicans, unafiliated, old, young, black, white, rural, urban. It's a scientific survey. The physical location of the company has nothing to do with the results. Why wouldn't ECU going to the BE be viewed posiitively by a variety of people in the state? I don't think "liberal" has anything to do with it.

If UNC and State thought ECU was a total waste of a game, they wouldn't schedule them home and away every other year. Nobody forces them to do so anymore. They do it on their own accord. Others have scheduled ECU home and home for years too like Syracuse, WVU, Virginia Tech, Miami and South Carolina who has renewed the series with the Pirates with two made for TV games in Charlotte, two in Columbia and one in Greenville. South Carolina has been to Greenville a few times in the past already. ECU has also played Duke, Wake Forest and Virginia in the past 6-7 years home and away.
It doesn't mean ECU is a world beater by any means, but that maybe they should be at least included. They have proven to be a good draw for home games in the Big East. ECU draws just over 50,000 per game in Greenville too now. To add 7,000 seats and immediately go from 43,000 per game to over 50,000 gives the Big East a guaranteed draw in the Mid Atlantic and a bridge to Florida. They have a Pennsylvania born basketball coach who started for North Carolina in Jeff Lebo. Basketball is getting to be a very serious deal in Greenville. Lebo turned down Penn State to stay here during the spring and just got a contract extension.

Nothing in college athletics would be more interesting than to see how ECU could blossom in a BCS setting. It's not like the ACC is going to come calling with four other schools already spread out over the state. I want the best for as many schools as possible who prove they can travel to bowls, fill the seats at home and have a recent history of winning conference titles in football.
That is what was asked of ECU and they did go out and do it so it would be nice to see them rewarded for that and have the validation of those
in the Big East. Both the hoop schools and football institutions. We all talk a lot of junk on these boards but this is important in our lives in Greenville. We have worked for this a very long time.

The ACC has just invited the counterweight voting block to Tobacco Road. The North Carolina schools will no longer be able to dictate to the rest of the conference (with other NC schools toeing UNC's line), unless they are all unanimous in their sentiments. It now takes a unanimous standing among all 4 Tobacco Road schools to veto anything. If only 3 are against something, it can still be overridden, if the rest of the schools vote as a block...

It used to be that it only took Duke and UNC being against something to stop it. Not anymore. And if the ACC ever goes to 16 schools, even if all 4 NC schools are against something, it could still pass with the required 75% vote, if all the other schools feel differently than the NC schools...

IMO the ACC is about to undergo a shift in their internal political landscape...

(10-20-2011 08:57 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  The ACC has just invited the counterweight voting block to Tobacco Road. The North Carolina schools will no longer be able to dictate to the rest of the conference (with other NC schools toeing UNC's line), unless they are all unanimous in their sentiments. It now takes a unanimous standing among all 4 Tobacco Road schools to veto anything. If only 3 are against something, it can still be overridden, if the rest of the schools vote as a block...

It used to be that it only took Duke and UNC being against something to stop it. Not anymore. And if the ACC ever goes to 16 schools, even if all 4 NC schools are against something, it could still pass with the required 75% vote, if all the other schools feel differently than the NC schools...

IMO the ACC is about to undergo a shift in their internal political landscape...

Great, now the ACC will soon be ruined too...

(10-20-2011 08:57 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  The ACC has just invited the counterweight voting block to Tobacco Road. The North Carolina schools will no longer be able to dictate to the rest of the conference (with other NC schools toeing UNC's line), unless they are all unanimous in their sentiments. It now takes a unanimous standing among all 4 Tobacco Road schools to veto anything. If only 3 are against something, it can still be overridden, if the rest of the schools vote as a block...

It used to be that it only took Duke and UNC being against something to stop it. Not anymore. And if the ACC ever goes to 16 schools, even if all 4 NC schools are against something, it could still pass with the required 75% vote, if all the other schools feel differently than the NC schools...

IMO the ACC is about to undergo a shift in their internal political landscape...

It will probably be good for the ACC if voices outside of North Carolina are listened too. Having more votes will dilute some of the North Carolina universities from dominating everything. I wonder how many people polled will be against adding Syracuse and Pittsburgh when they find out that they will be getting a hike from the TV contract from ESPN.

People basically didn't care one way or the other. 42 % not sure = I don't care. 26 % opposed the additions. Pretty much anything you take a poll on is going to get about a quarter of the respondents voting against it.

(10-20-2011 10:39 AM)Oh Really? Wrote:  

(10-20-2011 08:57 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  The ACC has just invited the counterweight voting block to Tobacco Road. The North Carolina schools will no longer be able to dictate to the rest of the conference (with other NC schools toeing UNC's line), unless they are all unanimous in their sentiments. It now takes a unanimous standing among all 4 Tobacco Road schools to veto anything. If only 3 are against something, it can still be overridden, if the rest of the schools vote as a block...

It used to be that it only took Duke and UNC being against something to stop it. Not anymore. And if the ACC ever goes to 16 schools, even if all 4 NC schools are against something, it could still pass with the required 75% vote, if all the other schools feel differently than the NC schools...

IMO the ACC is about to undergo a shift in their internal political landscape...

Great, now the ACC will soon be ruined too...

One can only hope so.