(10-15-2011 01:13 AM)Oh Really? Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 11:22 PM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  I seriously think we are staying in the MWC (Something about not wanting to hurt our other sports and The Big East football schools said behind closed ears that they would not stick around if they could not help it).
So this means some of you C-USA schools may end up getting the call instead.
This proves one thing. It isn't always about the money. And I promise you this....from here on out, all I will ever here is Boise was scared to play in a tough conference.
I will be slighty irritated if they do not go because Hair and Brit was not specific on how they will do schedules and things. Tome it seems C-USA will do their thing, we will do our thing....they there will be a championship. That does not seem like a merger to me. More like 2 conferences playing a game against each other at the end of the year.
But anyways. ECU? Memphis? You are very welcome!

Hey, man... don't look at ECU with the stink eye.
We're the last nonAQ to beat Boise State.
And thank you.
I'll never say Boise State isn't worthy. They're just two time zones away
is all and the same goes for Air Force.

Nevada beat Boise just last year. TCU has also beaten Boise since ECU did it. Try winning 10 games in a season once a decade. ECU had their shot and they were a very good team from 2007-2009 but 3 years of success isnt exactly that great when looking at the previous 15 years and the past 2 seasons. ECU should probably be in the Big East and I'd have liked to see it happen, but Pirate fans need to get over this notion that they were totally screwed. Win more. Having a head coach who specializes in defense when the team has the worst defense in college football isn't a great look either.

(10-14-2011 11:22 PM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  I seriously think we are staying in the MWC (Something about not wanting to hurt our other sports and The Big East football schools said behind closed ears that they would not stick around if they could not help it).
So this means some of you C-USA schools may end up getting the call instead.
This proves one thing. It isn't always about the money. And I promise you this....from here on out, all I will ever here is Boise was scared to play in a tough conference.
I will be slighty irritated if they do not go because Hair and Brit was not specific on how they will do schedules and things. Tome it seems C-USA will do their thing, we will do our thing....they there will be a championship. That does not seem like a merger to me. More like 2 conferences playing a game against each other at the end of the year.
But anyways. ECU? Memphis? You are very welcome!

I wish. The BB side definitely would be cool.
But, if we had a chance to play even just one of the MW teams a year I'd be cool with that. I'd love a trip to the Smurf Turf just once. Or Wyoming. Or Hawaii. Or Reno. Some pretty cool road trips, if we ever get the chance to make them. Will have to go RV shopping.
I bet the LB will be CUSA vs MWC again, which would be pretty cool. LB sucks with having 7th or 8th SEC team come in and begrudgingly take the 1.7 mil the LB pays out. It was a lot better the years Utah came, and the year the Broncos came.
But, we have to think of the BB side, which not a lot of the other teams do. BE is just killer BB, no matter what the FB side of that conference does. The BB of the BE is so good, we would have to go, no matter who is in the FB side. I doubt BE will ask, though.

But yeah, like you said, there's no way it can be more than one game; too many teams.

This really is a fascinating roll of the dice by the MWC and CUSA. Try to stop the bleeding of their better FB schools to the Big East and, in the process, KILL the weakest link in the BCS structure.

Keep these points in mind:
1. The BCS format will change after the 2013 season. Everyone knows Jerry Jones wants a BCS bowl game in his new stadium. So that adds a 6th BCS bowl game and, of course, 2 more teams to play in that game. The BCS could end up with 6 games: Orange, Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Cotton, and Championship game. 12 teams cash in big time.
2. So how might the dozen teams be selected? As the article mentions, the stronger BCS conferences (B1G, SEC, PAC12) not only get their champion invited but see a chance to have possibly 3 teams in BCS bowls. But the remaining 5 AQ conferences and Mount USA agree on one certainty - if the Big East is dead, that opens up at least ONE slot. Mount USA could reasonably argue their case to having their Alliace champion gain an automatic bid. That would still leave SIX open slots for the top remaining teams REGARDLESS of conference.
3. The Big East is in a self-imposed world of uncertainty. The BB schools still run the show. That conference is the carcass the other BCS conferences feed off of. The Big XII (-2) is going to eventually lose Missouri and will immediately add Louisville. UConn and Rutgers will eventually be snapped up by the ACC, which seeks to cram a knife in the BEC back at every opportunity. The hard truth is the Big East FB conference is weak, while the other 5 AQ conferences are stronger. Even the Big XII, which has its policies promulgated by Texas and Oklahoma.
4. Mount USA faces a tough job in selling their vision to the potential invitees, especially Boise State. Tough...but NOT impossible. The recent chaos since spring 2010 now actually works in the Alliance's favor. The Broncos hold the upper hand, so it will interesting to see what the Big East promises to get them into the fold. But Boise State could see more value in staying put and being in a very solid position to truly compete for a BCS bowl almost every year.

The BE looks to be about down for the count. Their bad moves stopped us from making a bad move.

(10-14-2011 11:36 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 11:26 PM)killer_eagle Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 11:22 PM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  I seriously think we are staying in the MWC (Something about not wanting to hurt our other sports and The Big East football schools said behind closed ears that they would not stick around if they could not help it).
So this means some of you C-USA schools may end up getting the call instead.
This proves one thing. It isn't always about the money. And I promise you this....from here on out, all I will ever here is Boise was scared to play in a tough conference.
I will be slighty irritated if they do not go because Hair and Brit was not specific on how they will do schedules and things. Tome it seems C-USA will do their thing, we will do our thing....they there will be a championship. That does not seem like a merger to me. More like 2 conferences playing a game against each other at the end of the year.
But anyways. ECU? Memphis? You are very welcome!

Don't sweat it. The BE is dead, they just haven't decided where to bury the body. Arrangements are being made and CUSA/MWC get to have the last laugh. When I go to bed, I pray South Florida gets left out and tries to come back to CUSA. Banowsky better not even answer the telephone out of respect to UCF (Assuming UCF stays). If not, UCF and USF can schedule each other home and home 12 games / year as independents.

hahaha bitter CUSA teams who know they are not int he mix with any BCS talks. You do know the BCS will never accept that merger as an AQ right? Why would any of them want to risk a 10-3 Southern Miss team in the Fiesta Bowl?

Remember last years Fiesta bowl with a BIG EAST team?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Fiesta_Bowl

(10-15-2011 12:54 AM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(10-15-2011 12:35 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  But does C-USA take teams back after the Big East is dead next month or next year?

Why not. The left overs in any mixup (USF and Cincy probably) are damn good programs and I for one would be thrilled to have a rival back in Cincy.

Prefer it to be in a BCS league, but why would a league like CUSA not take back a team that won a BCS conference not too long ago in Cincy and not take back a team with a strong recruiting foothold in Florida.

Bad blood and memories will remain, but how can I blame a school for going to the BE when it was available. Any CUSA East school would have done the same damn thing...

Understand your logic, but even if Memphis was in the mix, I would hope we would decline the invite. Pay exit fee, pay entrance fee, then (in all likelihood) pay another entrance fee. Just don't see the long term stability needed to shell out that kind of money.

(10-15-2011 12:54 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  how many times has ECU applied for the BE?

Formally, once.

(10-14-2011 11:26 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 11:22 PM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  I seriously think we are staying in the MWC (Something about not wanting to hurt our other sports and The Big East football schools said behind closed ears that they would not stick around if they could not help it).
So this means some of you C-USA schools may end up getting the call instead.
This proves one thing. It isn't always about the money. And I promise you this....from here on out, all I will ever here is Boise was scared to play in a tough conference.
I will be slighty irritated if they do not go because Hair and Brit was not specific on how they will do schedules and things. Tome it seems C-USA will do their thing, we will do our thing....they there will be a championship. That does not seem like a merger to me. More like 2 conferences playing a game against each other at the end of the year.
But anyways. ECU? Memphis? You are very welcome!

Not ECU...The Big East does not want us. They will add Memphis, Umass, Temple, or Nova before they ever think about us.

Well they said they wanted to add six...

So there is 4... Who's left?

(10-15-2011 12:54 AM)ECUPirated Wrote:  

(10-15-2011 12:39 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(10-15-2011 12:18 AM)ECUPirated Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 11:36 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(10-14-2011 11:26 PM)killer_eagle Wrote:  Don't sweat it. The BE is dead, they just haven't decided where to bury the body. Arrangements are being made and CUSA/MWC get to have the last laugh. When I go to bed, I pray South Florida gets left out and tries to come back to CUSA. Banowsky better not even answer the telephone out of respect to UCF (Assuming UCF stays). If not, UCF and USF can schedule each other home and home 12 games / year as independents.

hahaha bitter CUSA teams who know they are not int he mix with any BCS talks. You do know the BCS will never accept that merger as an AQ right? Why would any of them want to risk a 10-3 Southern Miss team in the Fiesta Bowl?

What do you do, jump around every thread and figure out something stupid to say. I've seen you on several pages, bustin chops on CUSA and especially ECU. The last time I checked St. Johns hasn't had football since 2002 and there's a reason why. BE Basketball may be all that, but ECU or anyother CUSA team would wax the floor with you all in football. If there is bitterness among our fans, it's that we thought enough of your conference to want to be part of it, only to have you stick your wine and cheese noses in the air like your sh*t don't stink. Why would they want an 8-4 UCONN team that got embarrassed by OU. Lay off already, we don't need the Big East.

In the Fiesta Bowl, that was a game until 6 minutes left in the fourth quarter. It was 34-20 (OU leading), but UConn was moving the ball. That could have been 34-27. Instead, OU scored two TD's in the last few minutes.

It wasn't like the game was over at halftime. Not even close.

It wasn't a game from the minute OU won the COIN TOSS. UCONN had an int return for a TD and KO return for a TD. Take those 2 scores off and its 48 to 6. OU outgained them by almost 200 yards. It had a 6.7 rating compared to the 8.2 rating that TCU/Boise had the year before or the 10.4 rating for Ohio St / Texas the next year back. But that game is only the half of it. UConn (a BCS rep ended 8-5), but a 11-1 Michigan St team doesn't get into a BCS bowl so the point is from above, how is a 10-3 Southern Miss any less worthy than and 8-5 Conn.

It's a good thing that 11-1 Michigan State team didn't play OK, they got S**T stomped in the bowl game they went to. 49-7 to Alabama, they probably didn't deserve to be in that game or any Big 10 school last year.

Don't use that example again...Bowl records by conference last year.

The Big East had a better bowl record than all of the conferences that are supposed to be "better".

Conference Schools Record Percentage
MWC (5) AF,BYU,SDS,TCU,Utah 4-1 .800
Big East (6) Conn,Lou,Pitt,Syr,USF,WVU 4-2 .667
Independents (3) Army,Navy,ND 2-1 .667
Sun Belt (3) FIU,MTenn,Troy 2-1 .667
SEC (10) Ala,Ark,Aub,Flor,Geor,Ky,LSU,MSU,SCar,Tenn 5-5 .500
MAC (4) Miami,NIU,Ohio,Toledo 2-2 .500
Pac-10 (4) Ariz,Ore,Stan,Wash 2-2 .500
ACC (9) BC,Clem,FSU,GT,Mary,Miami,NC,NCS,VT 4-5 .444
Big 12 (8) Bay,KSt,Mizzou,Neb,OU,OklaSt,TexA&M,TT 3-5 .375
Big Ten (8) Ill,Iowa,Mich,MichSt,NWstrn,OSU,PSU,Wis 3-5 .375

I am a Cuse fan so I could care less, but stop bashing the Big East when it comes to Bowls...Historically we have a better bowl winning pct. than everybody except the SEC.

Aren't all bowl games played against other conferences? Thought so.

If the BE invites ECU, Ecu will be all over the invite. Nothing has changed in the BE over the last 2 weeks, It has only been 2 weeks since ECU applied for membership. Katz seems to be putting all his eggs in the Boise/AF voted for the alliance deal. Guess what UCF, Hou, and SMU voted for it as well. That means nothing.

(10-15-2011 08:24 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  If the BE invites ECU, Ecu will be all over the invite. Nothing has changed in the BE over the last 2 weeks, It has only been 2 weeks since ECU applied for membership. Katz seems to be putting all his eggs in the Boise/AF voted for the alliance deal. Guess what UCF, Hou, and SMU voted for it as well. That means nothing.

Plenty has changed, an option that at least has some potential promise has shown up, and for me all I have wanted was the ability to tell the BE to fu*k off. I am done letting a group that knows nothing about football telling me my program isn't good enough. My program is as strong as any current or future BE program, and will continue to grow no matter what that dumpster fire does. There is a certain level of disrespect for my program I will tolerate, but the BE has long since passed it.

Bull_In_Exile Wrote:Well they said they wanted to add six...

So there is 4... Who's left?

Delaware and Slippery Rock