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How many BEast football teams do you think will receive bids to bowls? If you are really want to go out on a limb, which bowls will they go to?

I think we will get five bids this year, the following four and a surprise team...maybe 03-confused
Louisville
Pitt
WVU
Rutgers
07-06-2005 10:10 AM
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Add Syracuse... they'll get their wins this season.
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Obviously it's waaaaaaaay too early, but this is for fun anyway so here's my off the cuff predictions:

1) Louisville - BCS, 10-1 (6-1)
I'm calling the WVU game a loss with the mountaineers enjoying the emotional build up, learning from the mistakes of last year's BC game. Rest of UL schedule plays into their hands.

2) WVU - Insight.com Bowl, 8-3? (6-1)
Schedule helps big time in conference. Will be excused from back-to-back trips to Gator Bowl, but may lobby for Liberty Bowl match-up vs. CUSA champ instead.

3) Pitt - Gator Bowl, 8-3 (5-2)
My pick to win the league, then the schedules came out (@ UL and WVU). Hopefully fans appreciate shorter bowl trip this year.

4) UConn - Meinike Bowl 7-4 (4-3)
I think there's enough to hold onto the general form of the team without Orlovsky's arm.

5) Syracuse - Motor City, 6-5 (4-3)
League's only remaining bowl eligible team benefits from other post-season dances. I'm guessing the B10 again fails to qualify enough teams or sends one to the new Poinsetta Bowl vs. MWC champ.

ND seems unlikely to win enough to steal a BE bid. Possibly good enough to sneak into the Independence Bowl, but unlikely a threat for Insight or Gator.

Granted, I'll change this all around come late August... :D
07-06-2005 10:57 AM
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Why would West Virginia lobby to play in the Liberty Bowl? I doubt West Virginia, or its fans, give a rat's rear about the Liberty Bowl or Conference USA. The Big East is the Big East. Conference USA is Conference USA. Anyway, Pitt is going to win the Big East this year, followed by West Virginia and Louisville tied for second, and then Rutgers and Syracuse in fourth and fifth. All 5 teams will go to bowls. Connecticut, Cincinnati, and South Florida will fill out the standings. Oh, and Notre Dame will be bowl eligible, just barely, and weasel into a spot left open by another conference.
07-06-2005 11:16 AM
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Krocker Krapp Wrote:Why would West Virginia lobby to play in the Liberty Bowl? I doubt West Virginia, or its fans, give a rat's rear about the Liberty Bowl or Conference USA. The Big East is the Big East. Conference USA is Conference USA.
1) Because it's a lot easier for 15k WVU fans to get to Memphis than to Phoenix, and arguably a lot cheaper for the team, as well.

2) Because the CUSA champion might (and I'm saying might) carry more appeal than the Pac 10's 4-6th rated team.

3) Typically there's more appeal to playing on New Year's Eve then in the middle of the week when many fans are still tied to family vacations

4) I can't recall the payouts but I can't fathom the Insight being that much more than the Liberty's, if the Liberty doesn't already surpass it.

I agree there's a gulf of difference between CUSA and the BE, but let's not pretend it's the same as the B10 and the Sun Belt. Should Memphis, So Miss or UTEP have a 9+ win season in claiming the CUSA title then the Liberty Bowl could have a very attractive made for TV match-up, a la last year, and that hype would do both the BE and a side like WVU a lot of good. Especially if the BE side wins!

Plus there's the added incentive of the rumors concerning the BE looking to secure another solid bowl bid. With the Liberty now having one spot rated as "at large," this might be the chance to change that to BE and add to the conference coffers.
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Louisville
WVU
Pitt
Uconn
Syracuse
Rutgers

Maybe swap Uconn for Rutgers if Rutgers beats UConn.

People seem to forget that with so many OOC games we have in this schedule we have a good like and with two teams likely not to fair too well this first year due too many reasons, there is a legit shot that 6 BE teams could go bowling from this eight team league.
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Gunner, that might be the case. But I'd like to see the opinions of some West Virginia posters on whether they would be excited about going to the Liberty Bowl.

Now if the Insight / Music City split works out, the words Liberty Bowl may never get typed on this board again. A Gator / Champs split might also be in the works.

And I wasn't trying to put down Conference USA. I like what they've done. Too bad many of their own fans won't give it a chance instead of exit-plotting on here.
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I think C-USA is still a good football conference that will only get better and eventually surpass (if not already) the MWC.
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Liberty Bowl is also among the oldest and well respcted bowls.
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ucatsin2k7 Wrote:I think C-USA is still a good football conference that will only get better and eventually surpass (if not already) the MWC.
While it will eventually surpass the MWC in my opinion and end up as the 7th AQ Conference someday, the reality is today with a down ECU program and the some of the acquired deadweight they are not better than the MWC. UAB, USM, UTEP, and Memphis are all good programs that will continue to get better with time. ECU is historically a good program that will rise back up again, but should that happen CUSA will be very nervous about ECU leaving for a Big East invite and rightfully so.
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It's nice that the Liberty Bowl is old and respected. So is the Cotton Bowl. That doesn't mean the Big East should be clamoring to go to either one.

This conference needs to seize control of its own bowl destiny and get away from bowls controlled by other conferences. This is a major problem.

If the Big East can get the Toronto Bowl going with the MAC and start a second bowl in Tampa with USF at the helm, those would be tremendous.

The bowl situation is what's creating a high percentage of the tension. If the Big East can control two bowls, that's a great start to cutting it down.

In addition to the BCS, that's 3 of 6 bowls covered immediately. Then there's the Muffler, Insight / Music City rotation, and Gator / Champs rotation.
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brista21 Wrote:
ucatsin2k7 Wrote:I think C-USA is still a good football conference that will only get better and eventually surpass (if not already) the MWC.
While it will eventually surpass the MWC in my opinion and end up as the 7th AQ Conference someday, the reality is today with a down ECU program and the some of the acquired deadweight they are not better than the MWC. UAB, USM, UTEP, and Memphis are all good programs that will continue to get better with time. ECU is historically a good program that will rise back up again, but should that happen CUSA will be very nervous about ECU leaving for a Big East invite and rightfully so.
Imagine a Rutgers fan talking about deadweight. No disrespect to you but you're the last person that should even mention a word like deadweight when referring to other teams.

I'll put what Rice, UTEP and Tulsa has accomplished in the last few years up against anything Rutgers has done in that same time span in footall and basketball.

And why would CUSA be nervous about ECU leaving? I don't get that one at all.

You should be grateful for being in a BCS conference Brista. And whether or not CUSA is or will be better than the MWC or BE for that matter is anyone guess. Take care of home first before slamming others even if you are doing it on your board.
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Why does every Big East discussion end up beig about expansion? I know it is probably going to happen. But honestly this is about who is going bowling not ECU or UAB or USM or Memphis or CUSA. Lets try to stay on topic or atleast if you want to discuss expansion start the 7893728947th thread on that subject. I mean it's like I'm playing cards with my brothers kids or something in here.
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MHSCard Wrote:Louisville
WVU
Pitt
Uconn
Syracuse
Rutgers

Maybe swap Uconn for Rutgers if Rutgers beats UConn.
05-nono Snap out of it, son. :D
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HiddenDragon Wrote:
brista21 Wrote:
ucatsin2k7 Wrote:I think C-USA is still a good football conference that will only get better and eventually surpass (if not already) the MWC.
While it will eventually surpass the MWC in my opinion and end up as the 7th AQ Conference someday, the reality is today with a down ECU program and the some of the acquired deadweight they are not better than the MWC. UAB, USM, UTEP, and Memphis are all good programs that will continue to get better with time. ECU is historically a good program that will rise back up again, but should that happen CUSA will be very nervous about ECU leaving for a Big East invite and rightfully so.
Imagine a Rutgers fan talking about deadweight. No disrespect to you but you're the last person that should even mention a word like deadweight when referring to other teams.

I'll put what Rice, UTEP and Tulsa has accomplished in the last few years up against anything Rutgers has done in that same time span in footall and basketball.

And why would CUSA be nervous about ECU leaving? I don't get that one at all.

You should be grateful for being in a BCS conference Brista. And whether or not CUSA is or will be better than the MWC or BE for that matter is anyone guess. Take care of home first before slamming others even if you are doing it on your board.
Dragon; Brista has the right to discuss any conference or team that he wants to on our own board. I have read your posts on the CUSA board where you have said some desparaging remarks about the BE. You should take your own advice and stop attacking BE posters for making factual posts. If you cant handle seeing someone say something that is not pleasant about CUSA or a CUSA school on this BE board even if it is true, then Sayonara baby. 05-nono
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I actually believe the C-USA will be a better football conference with UTep, UAB, and Southern Miss. Also, I would not be surprise to see ECU, Tulane, and Houston make bowl games for the C-USA this season.

Getting back to the subject,
I believe Pitt will play in our BCS bowl
Louisville will have the chance to play in the Gator
After that it is a toss up....
WVU
Rutgers
Cuse
And of course da Bulls
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cuseroc Wrote:
HiddenDragon Wrote:
brista21 Wrote:
ucatsin2k7 Wrote:I think C-USA is still a good football conference that will only get better and eventually surpass (if not already) the MWC.
While it will eventually surpass the MWC in my opinion and end up as the 7th AQ Conference someday, the reality is today with a down ECU program and the some of the acquired deadweight they are not better than the MWC. UAB, USM, UTEP, and Memphis are all good programs that will continue to get better with time. ECU is historically a good program that will rise back up again, but should that happen CUSA will be very nervous about ECU leaving for a Big East invite and rightfully so.
Imagine a Rutgers fan talking about deadweight. No disrespect to you but you're the last person that should even mention a word like deadweight when referring to other teams.

I'll put what Rice, UTEP and Tulsa has accomplished in the last few years up against anything Rutgers has done in that same time span in footall and basketball.

And why would CUSA be nervous about ECU leaving? I don't get that one at all.

You should be grateful for being in a BCS conference Brista. And whether or not CUSA is or will be better than the MWC or BE for that matter is anyone guess. Take care of home first before slamming others even if you are doing it on your board.
Dragon; Brista has the right to discuss any conference or team that he wants to on our own board. I have read your posts on the CUSA board where you have said some desparaging remarks about the BE. You should take your own advice and stop attacking BE posters for making factual posts. If you cant handle seeing someone say something that is not pleasant about CUSA or a CUSA school on this BE board even if it is true, then Sayonara baby. 05-nono
You go find a desparaging remark that I made about the BE on the CUSA board within the last 6 months and I will stop posting on this board cuseroc!

I may have said a thing or two about former CUSA teams in the BE but I have not said one bad thing about the BE on the CUSA board in quite a while.

And Brista has a right to say whatever it is he wants to say on this board. But he didn't make a factual remark and I corrected and also made an accurate assessment of Rutgers. Now if you don't like what I had to say or if you thought what I said about Rutgers was wrong then you can man up and send me an IM.

This thread has been complimentary to CUSA but this wasn't about CUSA so stay on topic. 05-nono back at ya!
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Louisville BCS-Most likely Orange Bowl
Pitt-Gator Bowl
West Virginia-Tire Bowl
Rutgers-Insight.com

Other Bowl teams, UConn and Syracuse. ND has a very tough schedule.
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HiddenDragon Wrote:
cuseroc Wrote:
HiddenDragon Wrote:
brista21 Wrote:
ucatsin2k7 Wrote:I think C-USA is still a good football conference that will only get better and eventually surpass (if not already) the MWC.
While it will eventually surpass the MWC in my opinion and end up as the 7th AQ Conference someday, the reality is today with a down ECU program and the some of the acquired deadweight they are not better than the MWC. UAB, USM, UTEP, and Memphis are all good programs that will continue to get better with time. ECU is historically a good program that will rise back up again, but should that happen CUSA will be very nervous about ECU leaving for a Big East invite and rightfully so.
Imagine a Rutgers fan talking about deadweight. No disrespect to you but you're the last person that should even mention a word like deadweight when referring to other teams.

I'll put what Rice, UTEP and Tulsa has accomplished in the last few years up against anything Rutgers has done in that same time span in footall and basketball.

And why would CUSA be nervous about ECU leaving? I don't get that one at all.

You should be grateful for being in a BCS conference Brista. And whether or not CUSA is or will be better than the MWC or BE for that matter is anyone guess. Take care of home first before slamming others even if you are doing it on your board.
Dragon; Brista has the right to discuss any conference or team that he wants to on our own board. I have read your posts on the CUSA board where you have said some desparaging remarks about the BE. You should take your own advice and stop attacking BE posters for making factual posts. If you cant handle seeing someone say something that is not pleasant about CUSA or a CUSA school on this BE board even if it is true, then Sayonara baby. 05-nono
You go find a desparaging remark that I made about the BE on the CUSA board within the last 6 months and I will stop posting on this board cuseroc!

I may have said a thing or two about former CUSA teams in the BE but I have not said one bad thing about the BE on the CUSA board in quite a while.

And Brista has a right to say whatever it is he wants to say on this board. But he didn't make a factual remark and I corrected and also made an accurate assessment of Rutgers. Now if you don't like what I had to say or if you thought what I said about Rutgers was wrong then you can man up and send me an IM.

This thread has been complimentary to CUSA but this wasn't about CUSA so stay on topic. 05-nono back at ya!
The one thing that you said in the above post is that this thread is positive regarding CUSA. So was the post that Brista wrote. It was all positive. The fact that he said ECU is down but will bounce back is true. The fact that he said thta CUSA brought in some dead weight is true. Rice, Smu, UCF etc.. is dead weight. Those are terrible fb programs at this time. Its possible that they can improve, but right now they are terrible.

You took issue with that statement that they are dead weight because it came from a Rutgers fan. Well Rutgers is certainly better than any of those programs, and probably better than uab.

Its funny to me that you took issue with a very positve comment about CUSA, just because you did not like the dead weight comment.

As far as me going back to find a negative comment, :laugh: that you posted, it doesnt mean that much to me. You have made some negative remarks about the BE on the CUSA board in the last month.
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USFBullSpit Wrote:I actually believe the C-USA will be a better football conference with UTep, UAB, and Southern Miss. Also, I would not be surprise to see ECU, Tulane, and Houston make bowl games for the C-USA this season.

Getting back to the subject,
I believe Pitt will play in our BCS bowl
Louisville will have the chance to play in the Gator
After that it is a toss up....
WVU
Rutgers
Cuse
And of course da Bulls
:eek: You think that with CUSA losing Louisville, TCU, and Cincy they are going to be better!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That is almost as funny as the Bulls sniffing a bowl in the Big East next year, you are kidding about that right?!
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