I do agree if someone else left the conference, then UCF would be a very good pick-up.

(09-05-2011 12:01 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Blaster: no way on southern miss or marshall or uab


ECU however would be a good addition in your scenario

Prolly a dumb idea, was just thinking about helping recruiting and exposure in alabama

(09-05-2011 11:48 AM)KU4LIFE Wrote:  Sadly don't think for a moment that if you wanted KU, you would have to take KSU regardless. Sure if you guys were the B1G, Pac-12 or ACC... KU would leave KSU in the dust quicker than you could blink. When it comes to the Big East, KU will want KSU with them. We are going to try to minimize as much damage to rivalries and travel distance as we can. One reason why a KU, KSU and MU trio would be tremendous.

Iowa State would be a good pick-up if Missouri went to the SEC. Baylor shouldn't be in the Big East imho.

What cards could KU possibly play if no other AQ conference besides the BE is looking to expand, which is likely. If the BE wants KU it will have KU with or without KSU. KU's only other option is to band together with the rest of the Big 12 basement and add MWC/C-USA all stars potentially risking it's AQ bid come the next review. Not to mention lose millions of dollars annually which you would otherwise have with the BE's new television contract all the while watering down your football and basketball schedules. This is also assuming MU won't get an SEC bid which is a very likely possibility. KU will likely be at the mercy of the BE once the Big 12 implodes...it's a sad truth you need to accept.

(09-05-2011 11:48 AM)KU4LIFE Wrote:  Sadly don't think for a moment that if you wanted KU, you would have to take KSU regardless. Sure if you guys were the B1G, Pac-12 or ACC... KU would leave KSU in the dust quicker than you could blink. When it comes to the Big East, KU will want KSU with them. We are going to try to minimize as much damage to rivalries and travel distance as we can. One reason why a KU, KSU and MU trio would be tremendous.

Iowa State would be a good pick-up if Missouri went to the SEC. Baylor shouldn't be in the Big East imho.

I cannot see the Big East taking KSU without Kansas also joining. Just would not make sense to the Big East which means that Kansas may not be as free to abandon KSU if the politicians have any say. I think some other schools will jump in front of KSU if they are not a package deal with Kansas.

(09-05-2011 11:43 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 11:34 AM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  Id like to add Baylor, they'd be a good rival to TCU. I dont know why people are so against Iowa St though. They have a 55k seat stadium that they regularly fill, BCS school already. Good fans. Why would anyone prefer east carolina or central florida to this?

Some people are too wrapped up in markets. We already have markets, we just need good football and good fanbases. And an improved image.

Ideally we get Mizzou, Kansas, and either KSU or Baylor. But if ISU is part of the deal then im good with that too.

Somebody gets it......

This is The BIG East's thinking as well. Remember the adding value you comment. If any of the usual suspects for BIG East expansion added value they would already be members. Watch how quickly The BIG East acts when The Big 12 schools are available.
CJ

I do not think the Big East has to jump immediately unless they want to force Missouri's hand. Missouri is hoping for an SEC invite or maybe a B1G invite and would probably want to wait for them to decide. Since the B1G is probably not going to expand then Missouri's best case scenario is the SEC. If the Big East forces the issue, they can offer Missouri but make it clear that if they say no then the Big East will offer 3 other schools and will not ask again.
Missouri would be left with either hoping the SEC would ask them for an invite or end up in Confernce USA or the MAC on the outside of the BCS looking in.

(09-05-2011 11:58 AM)Blaster Wrote:  How about
EAST
Syracuse
Uconn
Rutgers
Pitt
Wvu
USF
UCF
UAB

WEST
Kansas
kansas St
Iowa St
Mizz
TCU
Houston
Lville
Cin

If wvu leaves for sec add southern miss or marshall
Seems interesting to me

I hope this is a joke. That conference looks aweful. Why would you want to add Central Florida, UAB, and Houston given whats available? UAB being in expansion talk right now is insane. They're closer to dropping down to the sun belt than they are to moving up to BCS.

I'd love it if we managed to get Mizzou and Kansas. Surely KSU would be part of that package, and if we wanted to go to 14 or if there were some of our teams on the way out, Baylor and ISU would be good options as well. Theres no way conference usa schools should be in the discussion right now. Things are falling our way atm and some of our fans still want to think small. Crazy

(09-05-2011 11:34 AM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 11:11 AM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  Adding Baylor and ISU at the same time is a lot of dead weight...I could handle one but not sure about both

Jackson

Id like to add Baylor, they'd be a good rival to TCU. I dont know why people are so against Iowa St though. They have a 55k seat stadium that they regularly fill, BCS school already. Good fans. Why would anyone prefer east carolina or central florida to this?

Some people are too wrapped up in markets. We already have markets, we just need good football and good fanbases. And an improved image.

Ideally we get Mizzou, Kansas, and either KSU or Baylor. But if ISU is part of the deal then im good with that too.

They are bad in almost every sport, don't have a great program, are 2nd tier in their own state, and are not located in a great market. They do have a nice fanbase and some potential, but top tier C-USA schools have more.

I still think 3 is the most the BE picks up. Going to 22 Basketball schools just seems crazy.

Whereas a 20 team schedule would actually work out nice.

You could do 4 sub-divisions of 5....play everyone in your division twice....home and away (8 games).....and then play 2 other divisions.....5 home...5 away. 18 games. Just rotate what 2 divisions you play each year.

Then you could keep all the rivalry games. UConn can play SU twice....each year....

if we were to add all 5 it would probably mean a split between football and non football schools

(09-05-2011 12:04 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 11:48 AM)KU4LIFE Wrote:  Sadly don't think for a moment that if you wanted KU, you would have to take KSU regardless. Sure if you guys were the B1G, Pac-12 or ACC... KU would leave KSU in the dust quicker than you could blink. When it comes to the Big East, KU will want KSU with them. We are going to try to minimize as much damage to rivalries and travel distance as we can. One reason why a KU, KSU and MU trio would be tremendous.

Iowa State would be a good pick-up if Missouri went to the SEC. Baylor shouldn't be in the Big East imho.

I think those are good points. BE getting KU, KSU and Missouri would pick up 3 teams with good established rivalries.

If we need to get another TX team, I rather get Houston over Baylor because I think Houston got huge upside with BCS access.

I would prefer ISU over other schools outside KU, KSU and Missouri.

As an UCONN fan, I would like to see BE add more teams that cares about academics than just sports. KU, Missouri and ISU would fit this profile.

Is Calhoun big on academics?

Just assume for a minute somehow the BE adds KU, KSU and ISU.....i would prefer Mizzou but let's assume they get an SEC invite.

Here could be your BB divisions with a 12/20 setup.

Money Maker Division:

UConn
SU
Georgetown
Villanova
St. Johns

Central:

ND
Pitt
WVU
Cincinnatti
Louisville

West:

ISU
KSU
KU
TCU
Marquette

The John Marinatto Division:

Providence
Seton Hall
Depaul
USF
Rutgers

(09-05-2011 06:46 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 12:04 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 11:48 AM)KU4LIFE Wrote:  Sadly don't think for a moment that if you wanted KU, you would have to take KSU regardless. Sure if you guys were the B1G, Pac-12 or ACC... KU would leave KSU in the dust quicker than you could blink. When it comes to the Big East, KU will want KSU with them. We are going to try to minimize as much damage to rivalries and travel distance as we can. One reason why a KU, KSU and MU trio would be tremendous.

Iowa State would be a good pick-up if Missouri went to the SEC. Baylor shouldn't be in the Big East imho.

I think those are good points. BE getting KU, KSU and Missouri would pick up 3 teams with good established rivalries.

If we need to get another TX team, I rather get Houston over Baylor because I think Houston got huge upside with BCS access.

I would prefer ISU over other schools outside KU, KSU and Missouri.

As an UCONN fan, I would like to see BE add more teams that cares about academics than just sports. KU, Missouri and ISU would fit this profile.

Is Calhoun big on academics?

He will be since his pay is tied to the APR. If I were you, I be worrying about your own coaches. Just make sure don't leave any Jack Daniels bottles laying around your athletic complex

If it's green label Jack Daniels, nobody will touch it, Husky...

(09-05-2011 12:12 PM)Blaster Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 12:01 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Blaster: no way on southern miss or marshall or uab


ECU however would be a good addition in your scenario

Prolly a dumb idea, was just thinking about helping recruiting and exposure in alabama

It's cool...dumb ideas float around here all the time and I've had my share of them

Most all posts are opinions....you are entitled to yours don't apologize

(09-04-2011 10:10 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/f...aGCFrGv7qJ

Larry Scott, commissioner of the Pac-12, who was at the game, said he has been contacted by several schools. The ripple effect of Oklahoma leaving the Big 12 could impact the Big East, which had an understanding to take Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State and possibly Iowa State should the Big 12 collapse.


The Big East, which has added TCU for next season, could be more selective and try to lock up just Missouri and Kansas, with their storied basketball program. Central Florida remains an option as well.


Missouri also could draw interest from the SEC. A source told The Post that Missouri doesn't see itself as a good cultural fit with the SEC. The Big East might be a better fit than the SEC, though not as good as the Big Ten.

Speculation is all moot at this point. Folks with the BE should realize ALL SPORTS MEMBERE will be entertained over football only schools. There will be some shuffling within the current BE as well...aka Depaul for an example.

Below is something new this morning written from last night's game in Maryland. Nothing new in this article, but it's probably the highest profile article that's appeared on the subject to date. It's the first time the subject of conference realignment has appeared among my Google news feed top sports stories, and it just so happened to look at the subject in a very positive light for the Big East:

Big East looking for 12 teams in football

Lenn Robbins Wrote:COLLEGE PARK, Md. -- It's all about Nov. 1, 2012. That's the date the Big East Conference becomes a TV free agent. The league's goal is to be able to present such a solid, far-reaching and valuable product that it lands a deal in the neighborhood of the $4 billion package recently signed by the Pac-12...

I've seen two scenarios reported on the UC board....

B12 left overs to Big East (KU/KSU/MU)
or
Big East/ACC merger for Eastern super conference....

Interesting that this article is posted from College Park. Could Maryland be in play?

(09-06-2011 06:49 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  Interesting that this article is posted from College Park. Could Maryland be in play?

He was covering the game (or the uniforms).

(09-05-2011 06:46 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 12:04 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(09-05-2011 11:48 AM)KU4LIFE Wrote:  Sadly don't think for a moment that if you wanted KU, you would have to take KSU regardless. Sure if you guys were the B1G, Pac-12 or ACC... KU would leave KSU in the dust quicker than you could blink. When it comes to the Big East, KU will want KSU with them. We are going to try to minimize as much damage to rivalries and travel distance as we can. One reason why a KU, KSU and MU trio would be tremendous.

Iowa State would be a good pick-up if Missouri went to the SEC. Baylor shouldn't be in the Big East imho.

I think those are good points. BE getting KU, KSU and Missouri would pick up 3 teams with good established rivalries.

If we need to get another TX team, I rather get Houston over Baylor because I think Houston got huge upside with BCS access.

I would prefer ISU over other schools outside KU, KSU and Missouri.

As an UCONN fan, I would like to see BE add more teams that cares about academics than just sports. KU, Missouri and ISU would fit this profile.

Is Calhoun big on academics?

Does it matter what Calhoun thinks? Of course not...it matters what the Big East AD's and presidents think.