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(08-30-2011 04:56 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(08-30-2011 02:02 PM)snowycuse Wrote:  The only single loss that would dramatically alter the Big East would be losing Syracuse. Not because of what Cuse is on the field/court but because they are the bond that holds the football and basketball schools together.

A WVU loss would not impact the TV deal all that much or set the conference back years. They can be replaced by East Carolina in a much more appealing state for television and recruits.

Would the Big East be better without WVU? Absolutely not but the conference has survived much worse.

If ECU is such a great choice to replace WVU (the only BEast school that's nationally respected in football at present), why isn't ECU already a conference member? Answer me that...

Don't bother. I was being facetious. You like to make stupid statements with no basis in fact...

The issue is that you are in the group of WVU fans that feel you are above the Big East conference because you have had some success, by default, after Miam/Virginia Tech left and Syracuse fell flat with a bad coaching hire.

If you are concerned with facts you are welcome to compare the North Carolina television markets with that of West Virginia, as well as, listing recruits out of both states.

Why is ECU not in the conference already? I am not sure and neither are you because we do not take part in those discussions. I am sure that they would be a fine replacement for WVU and the football fan base is more than ready.

As for WVU being the only nationally respected football program in the conference at present...wow...now that is a stupid statement. Being ranked does not mean you are a nationally recognized program and for a team that is supposed to be so damn good your ranking is rather pathetic.

Even when Syracuse was good, WVU still has more fans. If Syracuse is so great, why can't they fill the dome to the point where they need to expand? They can't! There's a good reason for that, dude...

(08-30-2011 05:26 PM)snowycuse Wrote:  

(08-30-2011 04:56 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(08-30-2011 02:02 PM)snowycuse Wrote:  The only single loss that would dramatically alter the Big East would be losing Syracuse. Not because of what Cuse is on the field/court but because they are the bond that holds the football and basketball schools together.

A WVU loss would not impact the TV deal all that much or set the conference back years. They can be replaced by East Carolina in a much more appealing state for television and recruits.

Would the Big East be better without WVU? Absolutely not but the conference has survived much worse.

If ECU is such a great choice to replace WVU (the only BEast school that's nationally respected in football at present), why isn't ECU already a conference member? Answer me that...

Don't bother. I was being facetious. You like to make stupid statements with no basis in fact...

The issue is that you are in the group of WVU fans that feel you are above the Big East conference because you have had some success, by default, after Miam/Virginia Tech left and Syracuse fell flat with a bad coaching hire.

If you are concerned with facts you are welcome to compare the North Carolina television markets with that of West Virginia, as well as, listing recruits out of both states.

Why is ECU not in the conference already? I am not sure and neither are you because we do not take part in those discussions. I am sure that they would be a fine replacement for WVU and the football fan base is more than ready.

As for WVU being the only nationally respected football program in the conference at present...wow...now that is a stupid statement. Being ranked does not mean you are a nationally recognized program and for a team that is supposed to be so damn good your ranking is rather pathetic.

we are a nationally recognized program; our ranking may be "pathetic" as compared to other programs, but it's still a whole let better than Syracuse

I like WVU. I think a strong WVU and Louisville in particular is a great thing for the Big East. We're two teams, and I'll include Pitt to make it three, that people feel SHOULD be good programs. Louisville came into the Big East hot, and we only stumbled due to a poor coaching hire that we've since rectified and are rebounding from. WVU, Louisville, and Pitt being good is what will and SHOULD bring attention to the Big East. It's not small wonder that the best years of the Big East since realignment previously is when Louisville and WVU were both doing great. I hope that continues.

That being said, I don't understand what WVU has to offer the SEC. For that matter, I don't really think Louisville offers enough to make it worth the SEC's while...

(08-30-2011 06:50 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  

(08-30-2011 05:26 PM)snowycuse Wrote:  

(08-30-2011 04:56 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(08-30-2011 02:02 PM)snowycuse Wrote:  The only single loss that would dramatically alter the Big East would be losing Syracuse. Not because of what Cuse is on the field/court but because they are the bond that holds the football and basketball schools together.

A WVU loss would not impact the TV deal all that much or set the conference back years. They can be replaced by East Carolina in a much more appealing state for television and recruits.

Would the Big East be better without WVU? Absolutely not but the conference has survived much worse.

If ECU is such a great choice to replace WVU (the only BEast school that's nationally respected in football at present), why isn't ECU already a conference member? Answer me that...

Don't bother. I was being facetious. You like to make stupid statements with no basis in fact...

The issue is that you are in the group of WVU fans that feel you are above the Big East conference because you have had some success, by default, after Miam/Virginia Tech left and Syracuse fell flat with a bad coaching hire.

If you are concerned with facts you are welcome to compare the North Carolina television markets with that of West Virginia, as well as, listing recruits out of both states.

Why is ECU not in the conference already? I am not sure and neither are you because we do not take part in those discussions. I am sure that they would be a fine replacement for WVU and the football fan base is more than ready.

As for WVU being the only nationally respected football program in the conference at present...wow...now that is a stupid statement. Being ranked does not mean you are a nationally recognized program and for a team that is supposed to be so damn good your ranking is rather pathetic.

we are a nationally recognized program; our ranking may be "pathetic" as compared to other programs, but it's still a whole let better than Syracuse

There is a major difference between being a nationally recognized football program and a nationally ranked football program. West Virginia is one of the top regional programs in the northeast. Texas, USC, Notre Dame, Miami, etc are nationally recognized programs.

This is not about Syracuse but all Syracuse has to do is win a game to get national recognition. Prime example was last year when we showed a pulse and beat WVU out in the rankings for a decent amount of the season.

(08-30-2011 05:28 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Even when Syracuse was good, WVU still has more fans. If Syracuse is so great, why can't they fill the dome to the point where they need to expand? They can't! There's a good reason for that, dude...

What does Syracuse having a poor football fan base have to do with West Virginia defecting not hurting the Big East Conference? Syracuse, when right, is a solid regional football program with ties to the NYC market. Our strength to a conference comes in the form of nationally recognized basketball and lacrosse programs and academics.

It is too bad your all powerful fan base cannot win games for you or otherwise your football program might have actually accomplished something at some point in its history.

Who has the Ben Schwartzwalder trophy again by the way?

The Big East would survive and actually take on a more defined role. The Big East would be the conference major urban universities.

(08-30-2011 10:55 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Sammy, it considerably diminishes The BEast. The main eastern rivalry left will be SU-Pitt, which doesn't have nearly the vitriol of the Backyard Brawl...

The Backyard Brawl would still be played, a move to the SEC would not prevent that from happening.