The Cavaliers drew well when Terry Holland was running the show at UVa...

(08-22-2011 08:48 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(08-22-2011 05:03 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  Trust me.. I have lived in the DC area for 16 years, and Virginia Tech is huge here. There are very limited good college options in the huge population area of Northern Virginia (GMU, some community colleges and branch campuses, that's about it), and thousands of kids go to Blacksburg every year for college. In Northern Virginia, Virginia Tech is king - no question about it.

Between UVA, William & Mary,and Virginia Tech, Virginia residents have a pretty good selection of schools to pick from!

Yeah, plenty in Virginia, but not locally in NoVA.

Va Tech is king here. They filled FedEx field against Boise State.

(08-23-2011 08:34 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Graduating 60% more students every year is a big difference.

60% is sizable, but I'm more familiar with the Northwestern/Illinois divide, where Illinois' main campus is 4 times bigger and their Chicago campus alone is twice as big. Compared to that the UVA/VT difference is negligible (and that's before considering that Illinois' has about 5% out-of-state students and NU has 15% in-state students).

In many states with two public schools, the slightly smaller one is equal or better athletically (e.g. Michigan, North Carolina, Oregon, Oklahoma). I don't think that the size difference between VT and UVA is particularly restrictive. If it were, the state will soon be bowing to its VCU overlords any day now.

(08-23-2011 10:06 AM)nuftw Wrote:  

(08-23-2011 08:34 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Graduating 60% more students every year is a big difference.

60% is sizable, but I'm more familiar with the Northwestern/Illinois divide, where Illinois' main campus is 4 times bigger and their Chicago campus alone is twice as big. Compared to that the UVA/VT difference is negligible (and that's before considering that Illinois' has about 5% out-of-state students and NU has 15% in-state students).

In many states with two public schools, the slightly smaller one is equal or better athletically (e.g. Michigan, North Carolina, Oregon, Oklahoma). I don't think that the size difference between VT and UVA is particularly restrictive. If it were, the state will soon be bowing to its VCU overlords any day now.

The question was about market presence though, not on-field competitiveness. I agree that UVA has the means to be competitive w/ Tech. They don't have the student base to pass them in support in DC though.

We have Nova already..So we have that market...Will there be a big boost in market by inviting NOVA for football? Probably not. Plenty of new markets to choose from as well.

(08-23-2011 10:06 AM)nuftw Wrote:  

(08-23-2011 08:34 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Graduating 60% more students every year is a big difference.

60% is sizable, but I'm more familiar with the Northwestern/Illinois divide, where Illinois' main campus is 4 times bigger and their Chicago campus alone is twice as big. Compared to that the UVA/VT difference is negligible (and that's before considering that Illinois' has about 5% out-of-state students and NU has 15% in-state students).

In many states with two public schools, the slightly smaller one is equal or better athletically (e.g. Michigan, North Carolina, Oregon, Oklahoma). I don't think that the size difference between VT and UVA is particularly restrictive. If it were, the state will soon be bowing to its VCU overlords any day now.

VCU also

a) doesn't have football
b) doesn't play in a BCS conference

George Mason is bigger than Tech and is located 6 miles from the Beltway. Tech football gets 100X the coverage that Mason hoops does in DC.

There are 4+ million people in the DC Metro, including over 2 million in Northern VA. More in-state kids (including from this area) go to Tech than UVA. More alums locate to this area after graduation than UVA alums. Throw in the success factor of the football program as opposed to others in the DC region, and that Tech is an attractive get to a conference isn't a surprise.

I have ZERO ties to Tech, these are just observations from living in the area for 10 years.

That's settle this right here, right now.

If you felt the Earthquake on campus, you're close enough to capture the DC market

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That's what's called

(08-23-2011 02:00 PM)saxamoophone Wrote:  That's settle this right here, right now.

If you felt the Earthquake on campus, you're close enough to capture the DC market

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Well that's Maryland, UVa, VT, WVU, Rutgers, JMU, Marshall ODU, Cinny, ECU, NCSU, Duke, UNC, Charlotte, WF, GW, Longwood, Barton, VCU, Richmond, Chowan, Mount Olive, Eliz. City State.

Do we all get DC?

Quake was much closer to us here in Richmond and Charlottesville than to DC. So if you felt the quake, you deliver the Richmond, VA market!