(06-18-2011 06:33 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 02:52 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 02:50 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 02:40 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  Next time another Katrina comes, don't expect LaTech to help Tulane out

Hopefully another Katrina will never hit New Orleans. But if one does, Tulane will always be welcome up in Denton, Tx. No strings attached. It's called helping those in need.

Tech is in need of a game with Tulane, but where is Tulane to help those in need?

I'm not a Tulane fan, but I suspect that Tulane would help out people from La Tech in a heartbeat if a natural disaster hit Ruston. Scheduling a football game seems like a pretty minor thing in comparison, wouldn't you agree?

Agreed.

I don't show up at my neighbors house demanding supper because I spent two days cutting the trees out thier driveway after Katrina.

Good grief.

(06-17-2011 11:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 10:30 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 05:32 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Tulane's athletic department should schedule Tech for no other reason than what Tech did for them after Katrina. With all the whining by Tulane fans about the continued affects of Katrina, you would think they would have enough honor to schedule Tech instead of ULM. Face it, they don't want to play Tech because they know they would lose to Tech. Well, they very well could lose to ULM also. What has ULM done for Tulane in comparison to what Tech did for Tulane after Katrina to deserve a series with Tulane over Tech?

Tech did what it should have done, as those taxpaying students help support Tech. Without those state tax dollars, Techs athletic program would not exist.

Isn't Tulane a private school? Isn't Tech a state supported school? If that is the case, why should Tech been obligated to help a private school?

I think his point was private school students, parents and fans pay taxes but receive no benefit from that expense. Those taxes help support state schools.

It's just as idiotic that La Tech and Louisiana-Lafayette don't play each other every single year...let alone are in two different conferences.

Baptist vs the French-Cajun Catholics would be a fun game and one that should be played each and every year.

Then again, like many things in Louisiana, it gets screwed up (just like how Tulane and Louisiana-Lafayette, 2 hours a part, haven't played each other in 10-11 seasons either).

(06-18-2011 07:02 AM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 10:43 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 10:26 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 04:59 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 04:41 PM)GoGold Wrote:  Is this the same Tech that said it was too good to play ULM???

Same Tech that is competiting for the same audience as ULM (20 minutes down the street).

Maybe, but if a program thinks its "above" playing a fellow Louisiana school, certainly you can understand a fellow Louisana school not wanting to play you. Right?

We need ULM to die. They are on the ropes and staggering right now. When we used to play them it was the only game that mattered to them (I know... I was an NLU fan at the time). If we renewed a series with them, it would probably spark some interest in the program. I know that sounds mean, but if Tech is ever to better itself, it would help a lot if we were the only game in North Louisiana. Can you imagine if Troy was located 20 miles North of Hattiesburg? The area is just not populated enough for 2 Division 1A (FBS) football programs.

I don't understand why Tulane is dodging us. We are in North Louisiana and they are in South Louisiana. There would be no harm to them if Tech beat them and there would be no harm if Tulane beat us. It would be the battle for second place in Louisiana and it might draw more interest to both programs... might. Right now 90% of Louisianians are LSU fans and LSU is considered the only "real" college football team in Louisiana. Maybe we could steal some of the spotlight. Right now, both programs struggle for attention.

You openly admit trying to damaged another program by not playing them and then complain when another program won't play you? A bit hypocritical don't you think?

I'm not complaining. I think it's funny. They clearly don't want any part of the Dawgs.

(06-17-2011 05:40 PM)DrBox Wrote:  We should play Tech because of Katrina.
Tech should not cry that we should play them because of "all they did for us" because it seriously devalues what they did.
Hardly a big deal either way.
comparing what Katrina did to our athletic program to us not playing tech is a complete non-sequitur.
And why in the world did you post this stuff, wavebacker?

(06-17-2011 11:56 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  Promote? I think the state would be shocked if Tulane beat Tech.

Try a slight upset.

What's the problem Dr. Box. ? It's worth posting for discussion. I'm interested in seeing the responses. What's wrong? Don't like our business being aired? Yes it's a La. Tech slant on things but I think we're big enough to get past that and see what others in our Conf. think of it. Dont like it? Don't respond.

(06-18-2011 08:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It's just as idiotic that La Tech and Louisiana-Lafayette don't play each other every single year...let alone are in two different conferences.

Baptist vs the French-Cajun Catholics would be a fun game and one that should be played each and every year.

Then again, like many things in Louisiana, it gets screwed up (just like how Tulane and Louisiana-Lafayette, 2 hours a part, haven't played each other in 10-11 seasons either).

There has been no room on the schedule. ULL usually has to play 3 money games a year, and Tech usually has to play 2 money games. We play one FCS team per year because it balances out a money game, and we don't have to return it. We have scheduled teams like Army, Navy, Houston, and Southern Miss. Why should we be obligated to somehow fit ULL on our schedule? They don't bring any fans to Ruston. BTW, most Tech fans do not like our AD and do not approve of what he said.

I have seen this type of thing over and over here in NC with UNC. It took threatened legislation and political deals to get them to finally schedule ECU. It was always the same old tired arguments...nothing to gain..ect..ect. The fact is that these games promote instate rivalries, are good for the fans of both schools and generate ticket sales and economic benefits.

(06-18-2011 07:55 AM)Observer Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 11:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 10:30 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 05:32 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Tulane's athletic department should schedule Tech for no other reason than what Tech did for them after Katrina. With all the whining by Tulane fans about the continued affects of Katrina, you would think they would have enough honor to schedule Tech instead of ULM. Face it, they don't want to play Tech because they know they would lose to Tech. Well, they very well could lose to ULM also. What has ULM done for Tulane in comparison to what Tech did for Tulane after Katrina to deserve a series with Tulane over Tech?

Tech did what it should have done, as those taxpaying students help support Tech. Without those state tax dollars, Techs athletic program would not exist.

Isn't Tulane a private school? Isn't Tech a state supported school? If that is the case, why should Tech been obligated to help a private school?

I think his point was private school students, parents and fans pay taxes but receive no benefit from that expense. Those taxes help support state schools.

87% of Tulane's student body is from out-of-state and do not pay Louisiana taxes.

As a posted above, Tulane does get state funding.

http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink/rob...od_04a.htm

(06-18-2011 07:07 AM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 01:25 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 11:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 10:30 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 05:32 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Tulane's athletic department should schedule Tech for no other reason than what Tech did for them after Katrina. With all the whining by Tulane fans about the continued affects of Katrina, you would think they would have enough honor to schedule Tech instead of ULM. Face it, they don't want to play Tech because they know they would lose to Tech. Well, they very well could lose to ULM also. What has ULM done for Tulane in comparison to what Tech did for Tulane after Katrina to deserve a series with Tulane over Tech?

Tech did what it should have done, as those taxpaying students help support Tech. Without those state tax dollars, Techs athletic program would not exist.

Isn't Tulane a private school? Isn't Tech a state supported school? If that is the case, why should Tech been obligated to help a private school?

Tulane gets state funding.

http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink/rob...od_04a.htm

LOL. Get back with me when tax dollars make up 50% of Tulanes athletic budget.

Only 33% of Tech's general fund comes from state funding. That means only 16.5% of Tech's athletic budget comes from state funding.

(06-18-2011 10:41 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 07:07 AM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 01:25 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 11:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 10:30 PM)GoGold Wrote:  Tech did what it should have done, as those taxpaying students help support Tech. Without those state tax dollars, Techs athletic program would not exist.

Isn't Tulane a private school? Isn't Tech a state supported school? If that is the case, why should Tech been obligated to help a private school?

Tulane gets state funding.

http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink/rob...od_04a.htm

LOL. Get back with me when tax dollars make up 50% of Tulanes athletic budget.

Only 33% of Tech's general fund comes from taxpayer money. That means only 16.5% of Tech's athletic budget comes from taxpayer money.

It doesn't matter my man. We've talked about this over and over with Eager Eagle and GoGold on this forum. Louisiana has outlawed student fees and would rather have the taxpayers fund college athletics in Louisiana. There is nothing Tech can do about it.

i would figure that tulane needs more wins rather then helping la tech at this moment. ulm SHOULD be a win. i would say that if tulane could make it to a bowl this year then they would be more willing to sched la tech next year or in years coming. is it right? i guess it depends on which side of the table you sit on. i wouldnt mind playing tech in a home and home (would rather USL since its a closer drive) but i think holding the katrina thing over tulane's head is rather low.

(06-18-2011 10:26 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 08:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It's just as idiotic that La Tech and Louisiana-Lafayette don't play each other every single year...let alone are in two different conferences.

Baptist vs the French-Cajun Catholics would be a fun game and one that should be played each and every year.

Then again, like many things in Louisiana, it gets screwed up (just like how Tulane and Louisiana-Lafayette, 2 hours a part, haven't played each other in 10-11 seasons either).

There has been no room on the schedule. ULL usually has to play 3 money games a year, and Tech usually has to play 2 money games. We play one FCS team per year because it balances out a money game, and we don't have to return it. We have scheduled teams like Army, Navy, Houston, and Southern Miss. Why should we be obligated to somehow fit ULL on our schedule? They don't bring any fans to Ruston. BTW, most Tech fans do not like our AD and do not approve of what he said.

Why should Tulane be obligated to play Tech?

Most of your fans don't approve of what he said? Could not tell it from your board when the comment was made.

Here's my perspective:

I see arguments from both sides and both sides have good ones.

One side says:

1. Hey Tulane, if you think the only team better than you at football in the state of Louisiana is LSU, prove it. Play Tech and duke it out on the field.
2. If you want to prove yourself to CUSA and recruits don't ***** out of a game you think is beneath you in LA Tech. Smash the little guy (in your minds) and prove to recruits you're serious about sports now and not just coasting.
3. They take you in during Katrina and you won't even play them? So you enjoy their hospitality and won't help them out with their program? Classy.
4. ULM? REALLY?!

The other side:

1. Look, we're busy and not obligated to play anyone. We're gonna do whatever works for us financially, academically, and program wise. Deal. We owe you nothing athletically Tech.
2. We'd take you in, in a minute LA Tech, that doesn't mean we'd force you to play us.
3. We don't need a rival program getting publicity and recruiting hands in our neck of the woods. We compete with LSU enough as it is and we don't need Tech stealing what's left.
4. LA Monroe looked better logistically.
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I really appreciate what LA Tech did for us during Katrina. We would do the same. That doesn't mean we have to play them in obligation. If some community college took in the #1 team in the country would said #1 be forced to play them out of respect? No. And while Tulane is not the #1 team in the country, Tulane still holds the power to schedule whomever they please. Your day will come when we play again LA Tech.

Do I think Tulane is pussying out? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes. We don't want to lose to a team competing with us for the same players. Right now Tulane is on the verge of grossly improving or sinking back to the depths of pathetic. A loss to Tech would push us over the pathetic side. Monroe shouldn't beat us. Tech might. We need a gimme win or two to help our program gain legs. We want a bowl game. WE WANT A BOWL GAME.


My verdict: it's lame that Tulane is so fearful of losing games that Tulane can't pony up and play an instate rival... but this isn't a new thing and it isn't Tulane alone doing it. Welcome to scheduling and football. Tulane has priorities and playing Tech is low on the list. I rule in favor of Tulane doing what Tulane needs to do to win and grow. Is this it? Time will tell.

(06-18-2011 10:32 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 07:55 AM)Observer Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 11:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 10:30 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 05:32 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Tulane's athletic department should schedule Tech for no other reason than what Tech did for them after Katrina. With all the whining by Tulane fans about the continued affects of Katrina, you would think they would have enough honor to schedule Tech instead of ULM. Face it, they don't want to play Tech because they know they would lose to Tech. Well, they very well could lose to ULM also. What has ULM done for Tulane in comparison to what Tech did for Tulane after Katrina to deserve a series with Tulane over Tech?

Tech did what it should have done, as those taxpaying students help support Tech. Without those state tax dollars, Techs athletic program would not exist.

Isn't Tulane a private school? Isn't Tech a state supported school? If that is the case, why should Tech been obligated to help a private school?

I think his point was private school students, parents and fans pay taxes but receive no benefit from that expense. Those taxes help support state schools.

87% of Tulane's student body is from out-of-state and do not pay Louisiana taxes.

As a posted above, Tulane does get state funding.

http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink/rob...od_04a.htm

I never said Tulane doesn't get state funding. I said Tulane doesn't depend on state tax dollars for 40% (corrected from 50%) of its athletic budget.

Out of state students don't pay taxes??? Is there no sales tax in Louisiana? I pay Louisana taxes every year and live in Mississippi. So thank me for my support.

Apparently I don't pay Louisiana taxes every day I go grocery shopping. I also don't pay city taxes. Oye

(06-18-2011 10:41 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 07:07 AM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 01:25 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 11:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 10:30 PM)GoGold Wrote:  Tech did what it should have done, as those taxpaying students help support Tech. Without those state tax dollars, Techs athletic program would not exist.

Isn't Tulane a private school? Isn't Tech a state supported school? If that is the case, why should Tech been obligated to help a private school?

Tulane gets state funding.

http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink/rob...od_04a.htm

LOL. Get back with me when tax dollars make up 50% of Tulanes athletic budget.

Only 33% of Tech's general fund comes from state funding. That means only 16.5% of Tech's athletic budget comes from state funding.

Tell it to your folks that release the information to the USAToday.

(06-18-2011 12:42 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 10:26 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 08:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It's just as idiotic that La Tech and Louisiana-Lafayette don't play each other every single year...let alone are in two different conferences.

Baptist vs the French-Cajun Catholics would be a fun game and one that should be played each and every year.

Then again, like many things in Louisiana, it gets screwed up (just like how Tulane and Louisiana-Lafayette, 2 hours a part, haven't played each other in 10-11 seasons either).

There has been no room on the schedule. ULL usually has to play 3 money games a year, and Tech usually has to play 2 money games. We play one FCS team per year because it balances out a money game, and we don't have to return it. We have scheduled teams like Army, Navy, Houston, and Southern Miss. Why should we be obligated to somehow fit ULL on our schedule? They don't bring any fans to Ruston. BTW, most Tech fans do not like our AD and do not approve of what he said.

Why should Tulane be obligated to play Tech?

Most of your fans don't approve of what he said? Could not tell it from your board when the comment was made.

I don't think Tulane should be obligated to play Tech. I think it's the right thing to do but not an obligation.

(06-18-2011 12:46 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 10:32 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 07:55 AM)Observer Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 11:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 10:30 PM)GoGold Wrote:  Tech did what it should have done, as those taxpaying students help support Tech. Without those state tax dollars, Techs athletic program would not exist.

Isn't Tulane a private school? Isn't Tech a state supported school? If that is the case, why should Tech been obligated to help a private school?

I think his point was private school students, parents and fans pay taxes but receive no benefit from that expense. Those taxes help support state schools.

87% of Tulane's student body is from out-of-state and do not pay Louisiana taxes.

As a posted above, Tulane does get state funding.

http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink/rob...od_04a.htm

I never said Tulane doesn't get state funding. I said Tulane doesn't depend on state tax dollars for 40% (corrected from 50%) of its athletic budget.

Out of state students don't pay taxes??? Is there no sales tax in Louisiana? I pay Louisana taxes every year and live in Mississippi. So thank me for my support.

I wasn't responding to you. I quoted Observer. Thank you for paying your sales taxes.

(06-18-2011 01:02 PM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 12:42 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 10:26 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 08:46 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  It's just as idiotic that La Tech and Louisiana-Lafayette don't play each other every single year...let alone are in two different conferences.

Baptist vs the French-Cajun Catholics would be a fun game and one that should be played each and every year.

Then again, like many things in Louisiana, it gets screwed up (just like how Tulane and Louisiana-Lafayette, 2 hours a part, haven't played each other in 10-11 seasons either).

There has been no room on the schedule. ULL usually has to play 3 money games a year, and Tech usually has to play 2 money games. We play one FCS team per year because it balances out a money game, and we don't have to return it. We have scheduled teams like Army, Navy, Houston, and Southern Miss. Why should we be obligated to somehow fit ULL on our schedule? They don't bring any fans to Ruston. BTW, most Tech fans do not like our AD and do not approve of what he said.

Why should Tulane be obligated to play Tech?

Most of your fans don't approve of what he said? Could not tell it from your board when the comment was made.

I don't think Tulane should be obligated to play Tech. I think it's the right thing to do but not an obligation.

Right thing to do FOR TECH. Wrong thing to do for TULANE.

(06-18-2011 12:52 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 10:41 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 07:07 AM)GoGold Wrote:  

(06-18-2011 01:25 AM)latechdawg08 Wrote:  

(06-17-2011 11:13 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Isn't Tulane a private school? Isn't Tech a state supported school? If that is the case, why should Tech been obligated to help a private school?

Tulane gets state funding.

http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink/rob...od_04a.htm

LOL. Get back with me when tax dollars make up 50% of Tulanes athletic budget.

Only 33% of Tech's general fund comes from state funding. That means only 16.5% of Tech's athletic budget comes from state funding.

Tell it to your folks that release the information to the USAToday.

USA Today quotes institutional support. Institutional support is not all taxpayer money. The percentage of state funding of every public school's general budget can be found at the U.S. Department of Education's website. It shows the percentage of funding for each funding source. For Tech, state funding makes up 33% of our general fund from which institutional support is transferred to athletics. USA Today reports that Tech receives $0 from direct state or government support.