(04-05-2013 03:03 PM)bctn8n Wrote:  

(04-05-2013 02:45 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  BearcatJournal.com ‏@BearcatJournal 39m

Transfer Expected to Visit UC: The Cincinnati Bearcats will be holding their 2013 spring scrimmage on Saturday... http://bit.ly/12oU4nY

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Yep. just noticed that. We will find out soon.

Looking at the posts from the artical. It is a DE that is 6-5 and 280 and first name of Marques. So anybody know who that is?

(04-05-2013 03:12 PM)Mark Wolfram Wrote:  Looking at the posts from the artical. It is a DE that is 6-5 and 280 and first name of Marques. So anybody know who that is?

http://www.herdzone.com/sports/m-footbl/...ues00.html (Alledgedly per another thread)

More info... Marshall fans seem to think he's a done deal to Cincy:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=108&f=2801&t=11411488

Interesting note from that thread as well, someone called BCSbearcats wrote: ..."We just lost a world class punter, he graduated and
went back to home to Florida. Not sure if he is at USF, FSU etc."

Pat O'Donnell? I've seen some chatter about him not being with the team. Anyone have any insights?

(04-06-2013 08:22 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  Interesting note from that thread as well, someone called BCSbearcats wrote: ..."We just lost a world class punter, he graduated and
went back to home to Florida. Not sure if he is at USF, FSU etc."

Pat O'Donnell? I've seen some chatter about him not being with the team. Anyone have any insights?

Yeah, that is the case...its been pretty well documented the last few weeks, but I think the people who knew about it, including me, didn't want any negative repurcusions of it coming back if they let slip too early.

TT wants to go to a rugby style punt formation and Pat wanted nothing to do with that seeing as how he has some semblance of pro potential. Leaves us between a rock and a hard place now because everything I've seen of Lloyd recently leaves a lot to be desired.

(04-06-2013 09:35 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 08:22 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  Interesting note from that thread as well, someone called BCSbearcats wrote: ..."We just lost a world class punter, he graduated and
went back to home to Florida. Not sure if he is at USF, FSU etc."

Pat O'Donnell? I've seen some chatter about him not being with the team. Anyone have any insights?

Yeah, that is the case...its been pretty well documented the last few weeks, but I think the people who knew about it, including me, didn't want any negative repurcusions of it coming back if they let slip too early.

TT wants to go to a rugby style punt formation and Pat wanted nothing to do with that seeing as how he has some semblance of pro potential. Leaves us between a rock and a hard place now because everything I've seen of Lloyd recently leaves a lot to be desired.

Wow, that could have a pretty big impact on our team this year. Is this the first opportunity for fans to second guess CTT?

Honest question - what are the pros/cons of the rugby style formation? With a talent such as O'Donnell on the team, why not wait until after he graduates to implement the switch and recruit someone more adept at that skill set?

(04-06-2013 09:35 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 08:22 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  Interesting note from that thread as well, someone called BCSbearcats wrote: ..."We just lost a world class punter, he graduated and
went back to home to Florida. Not sure if he is at USF, FSU etc."

Pat O'Donnell? I've seen some chatter about him not being with the team. Anyone have any insights?

Yeah, that is the case...its been pretty well documented the last few weeks, but I think the people who knew about it, including me, didn't want any negative repurcusions of it coming back if they let slip too early.

TT wants to go to a rugby style punt formation and Pat wanted nothing to do with that seeing as how he has some semblance of pro potential. Leaves us between a rock and a hard place now because everything I've seen of Lloyd recently leaves a lot to be desired.

Well that explains why in the video interview with the Specials Team coach he only talked about having an experienced place kicker and nothing was said about punting.

(04-06-2013 09:45 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 09:35 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 08:22 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  Interesting note from that thread as well, someone called BCSbearcats wrote: ..."We just lost a world class punter, he graduated and
went back to home to Florida. Not sure if he is at USF, FSU etc."

Pat O'Donnell? I've seen some chatter about him not being with the team. Anyone have any insights?

Yeah, that is the case...its been pretty well documented the last few weeks, but I think the people who knew about it, including me, didn't want any negative repurcusions of it coming back if they let slip too early.

TT wants to go to a rugby style punt formation and Pat wanted nothing to do with that seeing as how he has some semblance of pro potential. Leaves us between a rock and a hard place now because everything I've seen of Lloyd recently leaves a lot to be desired.

Wow, that could have a pretty big impact on our team this year. Is this the first opportunity for fans to second guess CTT?

Honest question - what are the pros/cons of the rugby style formation? With a talent such as O'Donnell on the team, why not wait until after he graduates to implement the switch and recruit someone more adept at that skill set?

Rugby style formations allow for a team to get punts out to the sidelines easier than a general apporach and do not leave a huge strain on the blocking formation, as the punter can dictate where he starts his punt routine based on where the pressure is coming from. It also increases the amount of secondary roll on punts, as the angle of impact normally forces the ball to roll in the direction of the kick, whereas a typical spiral punt can bounce just about anywhere without warning.

The cons are simple however. It's a gimicky formation and kick style that wont get punters with good numbers looked at in the NFL, and it can compromise coverage as shanks tend to be downfield and not out of play. These shanks can get to the return man quickly and allow for him to setup returns more fluidly than a long kick with good hangtime. FWIW, both of these are MAJOR problems for Lloyd right now...and that's why I'm worried about him being back there. He can't read the pressure well at all right now, and he tends to have a significantly lower launch angle on his punts, which leads to returners getting their hands on the ball much quicker than they should.

(04-06-2013 10:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 09:45 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 09:35 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 08:22 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  Interesting note from that thread as well, someone called BCSbearcats wrote: ..."We just lost a world class punter, he graduated and
went back to home to Florida. Not sure if he is at USF, FSU etc."

Pat O'Donnell? I've seen some chatter about him not being with the team. Anyone have any insights?

Yeah, that is the case...its been pretty well documented the last few weeks, but I think the people who knew about it, including me, didn't want any negative repurcusions of it coming back if they let slip too early.

TT wants to go to a rugby style punt formation and Pat wanted nothing to do with that seeing as how he has some semblance of pro potential. Leaves us between a rock and a hard place now because everything I've seen of Lloyd recently leaves a lot to be desired.

Wow, that could have a pretty big impact on our team this year. Is this the first opportunity for fans to second guess CTT?

Honest question - what are the pros/cons of the rugby style formation? With a talent such as O'Donnell on the team, why not wait until after he graduates to implement the switch and recruit someone more adept at that skill set?

Rugby style formations allow for a team to get punts out to the sidelines easier than a general apporach and do not leave a huge strain on the blocking formation, as the punter can dictate where he starts his punt routine based on where the pressure is coming from. It also increases the amount of secondary roll on punts, as the angle of impact normally forces the ball to roll in the direction of the kick, whereas a typical spiral punt can bounce just about anywhere without warning.

The cons are simple however. It's a gimicky formation and kick style that wont get punters with good numbers looked at in the NFL, and it can compromise coverage as shanks tend to be downfield and not out of play. These shanks can get to the return man quickly and allow for him to setup returns more fluidly than a long kick with good hangtime. FWIW, both of these are MAJOR problems for Lloyd right now...and that's why I'm worried about him being back there. He can't read the pressure well at all right now, and he tends to have a significantly lower launch angle on his punts, which leads to returners getting their hands on the ball much quicker than they should.

Well if that's the case I don't blame O'Donnell for transfering.

(04-06-2013 10:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 09:45 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 09:35 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 08:22 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  Interesting note from that thread as well, someone called BCSbearcats wrote: ..."We just lost a world class punter, he graduated and
went back to home to Florida. Not sure if he is at USF, FSU etc."

Pat O'Donnell? I've seen some chatter about him not being with the team. Anyone have any insights?

Yeah, that is the case...its been pretty well documented the last few weeks, but I think the people who knew about it, including me, didn't want any negative repurcusions of it coming back if they let slip too early.

TT wants to go to a rugby style punt formation and Pat wanted nothing to do with that seeing as how he has some semblance of pro potential. Leaves us between a rock and a hard place now because everything I've seen of Lloyd recently leaves a lot to be desired.

Wow, that could have a pretty big impact on our team this year. Is this the first opportunity for fans to second guess CTT?

Honest question - what are the pros/cons of the rugby style formation? With a talent such as O'Donnell on the team, why not wait until after he graduates to implement the switch and recruit someone more adept at that skill set?

Rugby style formations allow for a team to get punts out to the sidelines easier than a general apporach and do not leave a huge strain on the blocking formation, as the punter can dictate where he starts his punt routine based on where the pressure is coming from. It also increases the amount of secondary roll on punts, as the angle of impact normally forces the ball to roll in the direction of the kick, whereas a typical spiral punt can bounce just about anywhere without warning.

The cons are simple however. It's a gimicky formation and kick style that wont get punters with good numbers looked at in the NFL, and it can compromise coverage as shanks tend to be downfield and not out of play. These shanks can get to the return man quickly and allow for him to setup returns more fluidly than a long kick with good hangtime. FWIW, both of these are MAJOR problems for Lloyd right now...and that's why I'm worried about him being back there. He can't read the pressure well at all right now, and he tends to have a significantly lower launch angle on his punts, which leads to returners getting their hands on the ball much quicker than they should.

Many thanks for the detailed explanation! Here's hoping we get the issues corrected before Purdue, and/or O'Donnell and CTT decide to mend some fences...

The guys punting today during the scrimmage were not exactly setting the world on fire....

O'Donnell was pretty good on kickoffs, too.

(04-06-2013 09:35 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 08:22 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  Interesting note from that thread as well, someone called BCSbearcats wrote: ..."We just lost a world class punter, he graduated and
went back to home to Florida. Not sure if he is at USF, FSU etc."

Pat O'Donnell? I've seen some chatter about him not being with the team. Anyone have any insights?

Yeah, that is the case...its been pretty well documented the last few weeks, but I think the people who knew about it, including me, didn't want any negative repurcusions of it coming back if they let slip too early.

TT wants to go to a rugby style punt formation and Pat wanted nothing to do with that seeing as how he has some semblance of pro potential. Leaves us between a rock and a hard place now because everything I've seen of Lloyd recently leaves a lot to be desired.

I heard O'Donnell, after getting a degree, just wanted to go back to Florida, be close to home and maybe join another team and do some graduate studies.

Losing O'Donnell is big. Surprised no one heard about it earlier.

(04-06-2013 03:50 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Losing O'Donnell is big. Surprised no one heard about it earlier.

Agreed, I can think of a half dozen games over the last 5 years that were won due to superior Bearcat punting.

(04-06-2013 08:07 AM)CDS86 Wrote:  More info... Marshall fans seem to think he's a done deal to Cincy:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=108&f=2801&t=11411488

Sounds like he's coming:


marques aiken‏@myday_coming21h
Happy to be apart of the Cincinnati "BEARCAT" family. It's such a blessing, and I'm so appreciative!

From a few scrimmage reports, it certainly sounds like we could use the depth at DL.

Quote:Mike Dyer ‏@MikeDyer 7s
St. Xavier senior offensive lineman Garrett Campbell commits to UC as preferred walk-on #enqr #UC http://cincinnati.com/blogs/recruiting/2...d-walk-on/ … via @Cincienquirer

Mikale Wilbon just announced his top five yesterday:

Vanderbilt, Arizona State, Iowa, Cincinnati and Missouri

(04-18-2013 01:45 PM)ThinkBigPine Wrote:  Mikale Wilbon just announced his top five yesterday:

Vanderbilt, Arizona State, Iowa, Cincinnati and Missouri

haha wow i read that wrong..I thought it said mike wilbon picked UC to be in the top 5 of the rankings for college football