Ditto to 10th Mountain's post. Unlikely any Big East schools outside of WV would ever be invited. Likely candidates would be ACC schools that add a new state to the SEC footprint (NC or Maryland) without going too far above the Mason Dixon line. Of course there is still chatter on A&M boards to SECede, so getting into TX with a large profile school is on the top of the list.

lol wow...

Texas A&M (only if the Big 12 blows up before-hand as the SEC will not invite them unless other conferences go above 12 teams), Oklahoma (under same scenario as TAMU), Virginia Tech and North Carolina are really the only teams that the SEC would be interested in adding.

I don't think VT would be able to leave UVa, as UVa was forced to include VT in ACC expansion so its tough to assume VT could then just leave the Cavs behind. I don't think North Carolina would be interested in leaving the ACC to join the SEC. Perhaps North Carolina and Duke together. I also think OU would rather stay with Texas than join SEC with TAMU. In any case, super conferences would be a bad thing for the SEC.

Of Big East teams, only West Virginia and Louisville would really have a chance.

North Carolina -Chapel Hill has not won the ACC in football since when, 1980. Vanderbilt is more of a football power in the SEC.

(06-03-2011 09:44 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Don't discount the possibility. Luck himself was recently opining that geography is not as big of a factor as it used to be. It could be very enticing for the SEC to try to branch out into the north east.

I thought everyone was crazy about markets. If the SEC really wanted to go after a big market, what bigger market is there than the entire northeast? The northeast loves a winner, so the SEC couldn't lose...

VT would have no problem leaving the acc. A&M if they can get away from texas. UNC and duke, miami or south florida but not fsu if florida will allow it. Possibly west virginia but I think Cincy would be a great add.

I doubt any BE teams would be invited to the SEC; I'd say the possible teams are Missouri, Clemson and Va Tech but only if all hell breaks loose and super-conferences begin to form

(06-03-2011 09:49 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  I doubt any BE teams would be invited to the SEC; I'd say the possible teams are Missouri, Clemson and Va Tech but only if all hell breaks loose and super-conferences begin to form

I agree to disagree. Let me throw our HOUSTON gorilla weight around in this conversation. If Texas goes Indi which we all expect them to do so then look forward hell to break loose there after. That said, A&M will be first in line to join the SEC perhaps with Oklahome, Missouri and Oklahome State or T-Tech being the last addition. My .02

GO HOUSTON COOGS

(06-03-2011 03:33 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  North Carolina -Chapel Hill has not won the ACC in football since when, 1980. Vanderbilt is more of a football power in the SEC.

The SEC is not in need of adding powers to the conference. North Carolina offers far more as a basketball powerhouse and a strong overall athletic brand. Anyway, we don't want to add programs. Moving beyond 12 teams represents a threat to the SEC's dominance.

(06-03-2011 10:06 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 10:04 AM)Guyasuta Genac Wrote:  Don't forget WVU.

They are the only team that has similarities with SEC culture.

wvu is a northern school in a northern state.

(06-04-2011 12:19 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 09:49 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  I doubt any BE teams would be invited to the SEC; I'd say the possible teams are Missouri, Clemson and Va Tech but only if all hell breaks loose and super-conferences begin to form

I agree to disagree. Let me throw our HOUSTON gorilla weight around in this conversation. If Texas goes Indi which we all expect them to do so then look forward hell to break loose there after. That said, A&M will be first in line to join the SEC perhaps with Oklahome, Missouri and Oklahome State or T-Tech being the last addition. My .02

GO HOUSTON COOGS

Maybe I don't know better, but why would Texas go independent? Don't they already have there own Network or something like that along with they have a larger piece of the Big 12-2 pie?

(06-04-2011 06:50 AM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 10:06 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 10:04 AM)Guyasuta Genac Wrote:  Don't forget WVU.

They are the only team that has similarities with SEC culture.

wvu is a northern school in a northern state.

Tell that to the good people in New York and Boston.

(06-04-2011 08:13 AM)EerMeNow Wrote:  

(06-04-2011 06:50 AM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 10:06 AM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 10:04 AM)Guyasuta Genac Wrote:  Don't forget WVU.

They are the only team that has similarities with SEC culture.

wvu is a northern school in a northern state.

Tell that to the good people in New York and Boston.

we consider anything north of tennessee yankees and were not too sure about tennessee

I think it is underestimated how happy VT fans are in the ACC. We can easily drive to WF, NCSt, Duke, UNC, UMD, UVA, and GT. The championship game being in Charlotte is less than 2hrs from campus. We are in a stable conference with teams that have a lot of tradition and academic standing. There aren't too many that want to give that up even for the SEC. Throughout Virginia and North Carolina you will run into fellow ACC fans everywhere you go. It makes it much more interesting when you have interactions with opposing fans often. That wouldn't happen if we were in the SEC and certainly didn't happen in the BE.

(06-04-2011 10:54 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I think it is underestimated how happy VT fans are in the ACC. We can easily drive to WF, NCSt, Duke, UNC, UMD, UVA, and GT. The championship game being in Charlotte is less than 2hrs from campus. We are in a stable conference with teams that have a lot of tradition and academic standing. There aren't too many that want to give that up even for the SEC. Throughout Virginia and North Carolina you will run into fellow ACC fans everywhere you go. It makes it much more interesting when you have interactions with opposing fans often. That wouldn't happen if we were in the SEC and certainly didn't happen in the BE.

Just out of curiosity, how many other VT fans think that academic standing is an important consideration for a BCS conference? Or to expand on this, do you know of other fans within the ACC who care about the academics of peer institutions within the ACC?

(06-04-2011 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-04-2011 10:54 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I think it is underestimated how happy VT fans are in the ACC. We can easily drive to WF, NCSt, Duke, UNC, UMD, UVA, and GT. The championship game being in Charlotte is less than 2hrs from campus. We are in a stable conference with teams that have a lot of tradition and academic standing. There aren't too many that want to give that up even for the SEC. Throughout Virginia and North Carolina you will run into fellow ACC fans everywhere you go. It makes it much more interesting when you have interactions with opposing fans often. That wouldn't happen if we were in the SEC and certainly didn't happen in the BE.

Just out of curiosity, how many other VT fans think that academic standing is an important consideration for a BCS conference? Or to expand on this, do you know of other fans within the ACC who care about the academics of peer institutions within the ACC?

There are a lot of joint projects with ACC schools. We have always had the MD/VA regional college of vet med on campus and it's a joint project with UMD. We have a newer joint venture w/ Wake Forest on campus for biomedical engineering. There are numerous projects that go on between UVA and VT as well. I think the administration sees the value having a sports relationship with other regional schools helps further these types of projects.

As far as the fans go. You will find most VT students applied to the NC schools, UVA, and UMD as their alternative schools. VT students have high school friends at these Universities. So they care about the academics of them to some extent. The real reason most VT fans want to stay in the ACC are these relationships with alumni, students, and fans of the other teams. I have family members and neighbors that have went to about five of the ACC schools so it brings another level of interest.

(06-04-2011 11:09 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(06-04-2011 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-04-2011 10:54 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I think it is underestimated how happy VT fans are in the ACC. We can easily drive to WF, NCSt, Duke, UNC, UMD, UVA, and GT. The championship game being in Charlotte is less than 2hrs from campus. We are in a stable conference with teams that have a lot of tradition and academic standing. There aren't too many that want to give that up even for the SEC. Throughout Virginia and North Carolina you will run into fellow ACC fans everywhere you go. It makes it much more interesting when you have interactions with opposing fans often. That wouldn't happen if we were in the SEC and certainly didn't happen in the BE.

Just out of curiosity, how many other VT fans think that academic standing is an important consideration for a BCS conference? Or to expand on this, do you know of other fans within the ACC who care about the academics of peer institutions within the ACC?

There are a lot of joint projects with ACC schools. We have always had the MD/VA regional college of vet med on campus and it's a joint project with UMD. We have a newer joint venture w/ Wake Forest on campus for biomedical engineering. There are numerous projects that go on between UVA and VT as well. I think the administration sees the value having a sports relationship with other regional schools helps further these types of projects.

So in your opinion, the athletic associations that VT currently has is a conduit to enhancing VT academics? So would you say that in a larger sense that schools care about who they rub elbows with - even when it comes to athletic conferences? Just curious.

(06-04-2011 11:14 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-04-2011 11:09 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(06-04-2011 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-04-2011 10:54 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I think it is underestimated how happy VT fans are in the ACC. We can easily drive to WF, NCSt, Duke, UNC, UMD, UVA, and GT. The championship game being in Charlotte is less than 2hrs from campus. We are in a stable conference with teams that have a lot of tradition and academic standing. There aren't too many that want to give that up even for the SEC. Throughout Virginia and North Carolina you will run into fellow ACC fans everywhere you go. It makes it much more interesting when you have interactions with opposing fans often. That wouldn't happen if we were in the SEC and certainly didn't happen in the BE.

Just out of curiosity, how many other VT fans think that academic standing is an important consideration for a BCS conference? Or to expand on this, do you know of other fans within the ACC who care about the academics of peer institutions within the ACC?

There are a lot of joint projects with ACC schools. We have always had the MD/VA regional college of vet med on campus and it's a joint project with UMD. We have a newer joint venture w/ Wake Forest on campus for biomedical engineering. There are numerous projects that go on between UVA and VT as well. I think the administration sees the value having a sports relationship with other regional schools helps further these types of projects.

So in your opinion, the athletic associations that VT currently has is a conduit to enhancing VT academics? So would you say that in a larger sense that schools care about who they rub elbows with - even when it comes to athletic conferences? Just curious.

Yes, in my opinion it only helps to have closer relationships with so many regional academic universities.

LOL