Is anyone close enough to the team or athletics department that has some details on what Preston's doing for getting this program on the right track? Obviously probably not many connections yet with Coach Preston but just seeing if anyone has an ear to the ground. I'm more interested in the future and how we're going to turn this thing around.

I think it's a bit early to tell. I will tell you that the "problems" we've had will be a thing of the past. Once you've seen what problems have happened, you can easily know what not to do. Probably around November, you'll know what you have with the team, talent wise and scheme wise. By next March, you'll know what kind of measures have taken place as these types of things won't be happening.

(06-01-2011 04:51 PM)Hooterdome Wrote:  I think it's a bit early to tell. I will tell you that the "problems" we've had will be a thing of the past. Once you've seen what problems have happened, you can easily know what not to do. Probably around November, you'll know what you have with the team, talent wise and scheme wise. By next March, you'll know what kind of measures have taken place as these types of things won't be happening.

I disagree w/ hooter on this.

We will not know how this program will look for 2 maybe 3 years. Could be longer depends on how bad the NCAA punishes us for poor APR.

I will make this statement and I hope I am wrong. If we do in fact get baned from our conf tourn. Preston will not be the coach to get us out of this. We will be looking at 5-10 years easy before we get everything back on track.

Now, we might see glimpses of what offense and defenses we will run, but that is it. It also will look a lot better if Cummings and Anderson stay. I hear they are both leaving. Plus Dixon is inelg until Jan and Green is gone.

I am not sure we (fans) really grasp how bad things are. A school missing post season due to academic sanctions will make for the worst possbile recruiting senarios possible.

@ K'saw Owls: Did you even read my post?

My point is that you will know in November what the offense and defense will look like. In November, you will know what kind of talent is on the roster. By next March you will know what the coaches have done to get this program under control.

Saying that, I agree with you on the 2 to 3 years before we see what kind of program this will be and whether it has done a 180. Currently, to my knowledge at least, we don't have a post season ban. I could be wrong about this, but if we don't improve our APR this coming academic year, then we could face a post season ban?

As for this:
"I will make this statement and I hope I am wrong. If we do in fact get baned from our conf tourn. Preston will not be the coach to get us out of this. We will be looking at 5-10 years easy before we get everything back on track."

That is a bit pessimistic. The Coach hasn't been there a full month yet and you're already floating that he won't be able to turn this mess around? He's got no where to go, but up from my point of view.

Have you changed your point of view on the firing of Ingle yet? This is an absolute mess and he was the captain of the ship. A completely irresponsible job on his part.

(06-02-2011 08:58 AM)Hooterdome Wrote:  @ K'saw Owls: Did you even read my post?

My point is that you will know in November what the offense and defense will look like. In November, you will know what kind of talent is on the roster. By next March you will know what the coaches have done to get this program under control.

Saying that, I agree with you on the 2 to 3 years before we see what kind of program this will be and whether it has done a 180. Currently, to my knowledge at least, we don't have a post season ban. I could be wrong about this, but if we don't improve our APR this coming academic year, then we could face a post season ban?

As for this:
"I will make this statement and I hope I am wrong. If we do in fact get baned from our conf tourn. Preston will not be the coach to get us out of this. We will be looking at 5-10 years easy before we get everything back on track."

That is a bit pessimistic. The Coach hasn't been there a full month yet and you're already floating that he won't be able to turn this mess around? He's got no where to go, but up from my point of view.

Have you changed your point of view on the firing of Ingle yet? This is an absolute mess and he was the captain of the ship. A completely irresponsible job on his part.

We will have a post season ban, in 2012-13. It goes into effect the fall semester following the spring announcement. Which is why last week KSU released it was losing practice days/hours and scholarships. That was based upon last (2009-10) APR numbers. So we will be penelized for our poor score.

Ingle should have been removed. This mess we are in is his responsobility and happened on his watch.

I just wish they would of handled his firing differently. With a little more class.

(06-01-2011 04:51 PM)Hooterdome Wrote:  I think it's a bit early to tell. I will tell you that the "problems" we've had will be a thing of the past. Once you've seen what problems have happened, you can easily know what not to do. Probably around November, you'll know what you have with the team, talent wise and scheme wise. By next March, you'll know what kind of measures have taken place as these types of things won't be happening.

That statement made me laugh. Preston will not be immune to problems. It will be how he handles them that will define him as a coach. To suggest we will never have any more problems as a program is ludicrous.

(06-02-2011 01:38 PM)KennesawBasketball Wrote:  

(06-01-2011 04:51 PM)Hooterdome Wrote:  I think it's a bit early to tell. I will tell you that the "problems" we've had will be a thing of the past. Once you've seen what problems have happened, you can easily know what not to do. Probably around November, you'll know what you have with the team, talent wise and scheme wise. By next March, you'll know what kind of measures have taken place as these types of things won't be happening.

That statement made me laugh. Preston will not be immune to problems. It will be how he handles them that will define him as a coach. To suggest we will never have any more problems as a program is ludicrous.

I could not agree with KB more.

Preston has plenty of problems. Esp with this bunch.

Our starting PG is out (grades)
Our leading scorer is looking to transfer
Our leading rebounder is out of school (grades)
Our 2nd leading rebounder is looking to transfer
Our APR is costing him scholarships and players and post season opportunities
Our academics are awful

Need I say more?????

Hooter if those aren't problems, I am not sure what are.

Gotcha on the ban and the rules. So, we'll have the curse of Ingle for at least another year. As for his firing, I'm only curious, but how do you think it should've been handled?

I'm not saying, and didn't say, Preston won't have any problems. The specific "problems" I was referring to, were the academic problems.

New Rules:
#1: don't turnover the bottom half of your roster year after year. #2: make sure your players are in class and you catch a problem before it gets a player ineligible.

@K'saw Owls: those are problems caused by Ingle. Now, as KB pointed out, it will be how Preston deals with those problems that shows how good a head coach he will be.

To summarize: I did not say they won't have any problems moving forward. There will always be something, it is the nature of 17-22 year old kids.

There are plenty of people that would say that Preston will create his own problems. From the link to the Florida Gators web site, they seem to have plenty of beef with Preston's work ethic. We didn't hire a savior, we hired a coach. To claim that he will not make any mistakes, or even claim that he wont make some of the same mistakes that Ingle made is foolish and sets our coach up for failure. Preston will not run a perfect program...lets get that straight. But I personally don't need a coach that does.

@ K'saw Basketball said: "To claim that he will not make any mistakes, or even claim that he wont make some of the same mistakes that Ingle made is foolish and sets our coach up for failure. Preston will not run a perfect program...lets get that straight."

Re-read my post. Focus on the very last paragraph.