(05-11-2011 01:37 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  FIFY. I stand corrected if I've missed an announcement by UCF stating they have not received a Letter of Inquiry.

(05-11-2011 12:50 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  We already lost a top 100 recruit by a reporter lying to him and claiming we were under investigation when, as of 5:30 Monday afternoon we were not.

FIFY

As of 5:30pm Monday afternoon, we have not.

My point is no matter what the outcome of this report, damage has already been done to our program. I'll wait until the findings to really get worked up over it, but if we come out clean and it seems there was no reason for this article then we can speculate on any sort of UoL connection. Until then, UCF fans need to stop bringing it up because it looks idiotic on our part and it makes us no better than the people you're claiming started this. And I truly do think even if we are found guilty of these sorts of things it will not exclude us from the Big East. Money is the motivator, and UCF is a potential gold-mine on many different levels.

That not what our company 's policy said either, but its how the real world works. I hope the institution of Central Florida is cleared. However, I can not understand, how the UCF fans in general can sick their head so deep in the sand and see nothing is wrong.

(05-11-2011 01:57 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I hope the institution of Central Florida is cleared.

Yes. That much is clear from the smilies you use every time you gleefully post in one of the countless threads on the subject.

/sarcasm

(05-11-2011 01:57 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  That not what our company 's policy said either, but its how the real world works. I hope the institution of Central Florida is cleared. However, I can not understand, how the UCF fans in general can sick their head so deep in the sand and see nothing is wrong.

Wilkie, I will explain it one more time, without using big words and long sentences. Lies about our program have already cost us a top-100 basketball recruit. We were not under investigation formally by the NCAA, a reporter claimed we were, and the player decommitted. All we are trying to do is limit the misinformation surrounding this internal investigation, as shown above, said misinformation can have legitimate impact on our program.

Everyone at UCF is worried, not because we think we did something wrong nor because there really is any proof we did, but anytime there is an accusation regarding a team you love it makes you nervous. But that doesn't mean we should let posters like you, who have no interest in being factually accurate, misinform everyone of the situation just because you like to get your rocks off.

(05-11-2011 01:56 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(05-11-2011 01:37 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  FIFY. I stand corrected if I've missed an announcement by UCF stating they have not received a Letter of Inquiry.

(05-11-2011 12:50 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  We already lost a top 100 recruit by a reporter lying to him and claiming we were under investigation when, as of 5:30 Monday afternoon we were not.

FIFY

As of 5:30pm Monday afternoon, we have not.

My point is no matter what the outcome of this report, damage has already been done to our program. I'll wait until the findings to really get worked up over it, but if we come out clean and it seems there was no reason for this article then we can speculate on any sort of UoL connection. Until then, UCF fans need to stop bringing it up because it looks idiotic on our part and it makes us no better than the people you're claiming started this. And I truly do think even if we are found guilty of these sorts of things it will not exclude us from the Big East. Money is the motivator, and UCF is a potential gold-mine on many different levels.

Guess I missed alot over the weekend. Would you mind posting the link that has that definitive statement from UCF?

It's is linked under the "not" underlined. It's a hotlink but looking back at it, it just looks like I underlined it.

(05-11-2011 08:04 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(05-11-2011 07:26 AM)animus Wrote:  People really need to quit assuming that Louisville is the main culprit here.

You're right... UCF fans are only pointing out that UofL had the motive (losing recruits), means (pitino media connections), opportunity (a felon, talking up UCF to recruits, it writes itself without any more facts), and MO (Kentucky hit piece).

That's not how real investigation to determine suspects work, this is all just make believe and paranoia.

I can go all day with these. And they're not "wild accusations", Smith's Mom WAS promised a house and job. Period. It'll come out in due time, I predict sooner rather than later. UCF fans can now go back to crying "you have no proof!" and "we're really innocent!" if it makes you guys feel any better....

Is talking in facts too much to ask? I guess so...

Wait until they come out in the report. It'll be more fun that way. Promise. The facts are in the hands of the people that need to have them at the moment, and that's all ye need to know bubba. Or worry about, if I were you...

Let's put this into perspective. I'd honestly be more surprised that we have the type of alumni support available to purchase a house and secure a job for his mom than that we offered it to them. And I'll be f*cking shocked if we offered it to them.

What happens if we come back clean? You continue to make baseless accusations and complain about us?

I've made it perfectly clear, IF you come out clean (and that's NOT likely) then I will GLADLY make a public apology to all ye UCF fans on this board...but my accusations are NOT baseless, and they WILL come out in due time. Bank on it. Louisville, as great as it is, is NOT a large town. Things have a way of getting out and getting around.

(05-11-2011 03:00 PM)3rdandBlunder Wrote:  I can go all day with these. And they're not "wild accusations", Smith's Mom WAS promised a house and job. Period. It'll come out in due time, I predict sooner rather than later. UCF fans can now go back to crying "you have no proof!" and "we're really innocent!" if it makes you guys feel any better....

This is downright hilarious. So first we have an erector set for a stadium that was thrown together on the cheap ... But suddenly we now have the money and proper boosters to offer houses and jobs. I missed the news about us joining the SEC.

Seriously dude, I don't know what kind of hash you guys are smoking up there, but I would tell you to take a step back and really look at the big picture. How come these "stories" are only coming out about kids from Louisville. You know we were neck and neck with Michigan for the services of Denard Robinson?? Was their house and job opportunity better than ours? I guess that's how we got Josh Robinson though, we had a better package than Michigan had to offer, right?

Why are we wasting these houses and jobs on 4* recruits from Louisville, when there is a plethora of 5* recruits in Florida that we could have taken care of???

You don't seem to be doing much in the ways of "taking care of them" when it comes to those 5*s....

And I never said your stadium WAS built on the cheap. I've not seen it to judge it. Was it? If so, that's you saying it...not me.

(05-10-2011 08:45 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  That could be true animus. Also, saying Ohio State won't be punished and the "little guy" will, it's not like the NCAA doesn't have a history of punishing the "big boys." Go talk to Alabama, Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio State basketball, USC, etc. It's easy to try to transfer blame to Ohio State but the bottomline is that all of those programs may have broke the rules and need to be punished. People are trying to use Ohio State's wrongdoing as a way to get sympathy on themselves even though they likely broke the rules as well.

Unfortunately agree with everything and as a Buckeye fan my expectations of the punishments keep going up. Our compliance department is a lot better than USC's was, but a lot else is going against us. I say all the existing punishments stay in place, we also get a one year ban post-season ban (which will also prevent going to the Big Ten Championship game), scholarship restrictions, and I think the NCAA will put a lot of pressure to fire Tressel. If we don't, and I hope we don't our of respect for everything the man has done for the university, these could be worse.

We had very bad timing, but it's alarming the rate of these things seem to be appearing all over. My personal guess is that violations are nothing new, but the internet age is making them show up a lot more often.

(05-11-2011 03:11 PM)3rdandBlunder Wrote:  I've made it perfectly clear, IF you come out clean (and that's NOT likely) then I will GLADLY make a public apology to all ye UCF fans on this board...but my accusations are NOT baseless, and they WILL come out in due time. Bank on it. Louisville, as great as it is, is NOT a large town. Things have a way of getting out and getting around.

Bookmarked for later.

Please do. I'll honor my word, but I'm not wrong on this one.

(05-11-2011 03:50 PM)3rdandBlunder Wrote:  Please do. I'll honor my word, but I'm not wrong on this one.

I think you would honor it. But I also think UCF was put up on the stake for no reason and lost a top recruit because of it.
Any UCF fan who follows me on this board will tell you that if I thought they were guilty I would be one of the first ones posting about it.

I have no reason to dislike UCF, honestly. Like I said, Chandler and Ware were NOT guys the reasonable Louisville fans were hanging our hats on. Smith's the only frustrating issue, and the one that raises the red flags in my very honest opinion. None of it adds up to anything positive. Though while I would've LIKED to have had Smith, and would've absolutely supported Smith (and still would if he were to play for the Cards), even he wasn't a full on MUST GET and had it not been for him making it readily apparent where he wanted to be (Louisville), The use of the term "business decision", and a shady character such as Bender at the presser celebrating and running of the mouth...I wouldn't have questioned a kid from Louisville, use to Louisville, going out of state for school. I have no doubt in my mind that UCF's got a lovely campus and frankly I think it would be neat to play for an up and coming program too....

BUT

Smith made it readily known he was wanting to go to Louisville. That was no small secret. And for those that say he left because of Bridgewater, you've yet to answer the question: Why would he go to UCF to play backup if he felt he was going to play backup here and it was readily known that he wanted to play here? His recruitment just does not add up, period. Surely nobody on here is naive enough to NOT be able to see that...Add in his high school coach saying he expects an investigation and things that have been leaked by his family, and it just doesn't look good for UCF.

Do you have a link with those claims from his High School coach or his family? Honest question.

(05-11-2011 04:26 PM)3rdandBlunder Wrote:  I have no reason to dislike UCF, honestly. Like I said, Chandler and Ware were NOT guys the reasonable Louisville fans were hanging our hats on. Smith's the only frustrating issue, and the one that raises the red flags in my very honest opinion. None of it adds up to anything positive. Though while I would've LIKED to have had Smith, and would've absolutely supported Smith (and still would if he were to play for the Cards), even he wasn't a full on MUST GET and had it not been for him making it readily apparent where he wanted to be (Louisville), The use of the term "business decision", and a shady character such as Bender at the presser celebrating and running of the mouth...I wouldn't have questioned a kid from Louisville, use to Louisville, going out of state for school. I have no doubt in my mind that UCF's got a lovely campus and frankly I think it would be neat to play for an up and coming program too....

BUT

Smith made it readily known he was wanting to go to Louisville. That was no small secret. And for those that say he left because of Bridgewater, you've yet to answer the question: Why would he go to UCF to play backup if he felt he was going to play backup here and it was readily known that he wanted to play here? His recruitment just does not add up, period. Surely nobody on here is naive enough to NOT be able to see that...Add in his high school coach saying he expects an investigation and things that have been leaked by his family, and it just doesn't look good for UCF.

Hearsay unless you (yourself) talked with the Smith, his family or the coach. Otherwise you read it somewhere and you just want it to be true.