(04-14-2011 12:26 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Even if Tech brought the Shreveport market, Rutherford County 262k (Murfreesboro) is larger than Caddo Parish 254k (Shreveport).

And what good is that Shreveport market, when they don't attend or support the team?

(04-14-2011 11:41 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:29 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:25 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:21 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 10:53 AM)BMarkey Wrote:  So, Terry, you "don't know anything about that," yet you then go off and spout your opinion on a conference about which you are clearly clueless! You are either an idiot or, as reported, brain damaged.

Ad what is this "Gulf States Conference"? Could he be referring to the D-II Gulf South Conference?

I am a big Terry Bradshaw fan. That is sad.

Alright, now I am a convert.

To hell with La Tech if they do not appreciate the SBC. We can not afford to have members that are not for us. With this attitude, La Tech will be looking to leave as soon as it can. Therefore, send UTSA and Ga State an invite. If UTSA wants to bring Texas State with them, then invite Texas State and UNCC. Let Tech stew in its misery. Go SBC! Go Jags!

Or here's an idea that I know you're going to find difficult to understand...
DON'T INVITE ANYONE

No.... we must proceed.

You are in the minority in that believe, what's more, inviting any combination of the schools you outlined would be regressing and that belief is shared by most of this board as well as the Sun Belt brass. Don't hold your breath on invites to Texas State, UTSA, or UNCC, actually do hold your breath...maybe you'll pass out and we'll be saved from your obsession with FCS and start up programs for a few hours...

Actually, I am starting to believe that you are afraid of the "start up programs". What...no room at the top? FAU and FIU were start ups. So was every other school at one time. Stop throwing temper tantrums everytime somebody has a different opinion. In fact .....go to your room and keep banging your head until you find a better use for it.

(04-14-2011 12:51 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:41 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:29 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:25 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:21 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  I am a big Terry Bradshaw fan. That is sad.

Alright, now I am a convert.

To hell with La Tech if they do not appreciate the SBC. We can not afford to have members that are not for us. With this attitude, La Tech will be looking to leave as soon as it can. Therefore, send UTSA and Ga State an invite. If UTSA wants to bring Texas State with them, then invite Texas State and UNCC. Let Tech stew in its misery. Go SBC! Go Jags!

Or here's an idea that I know you're going to find difficult to understand...
DON'T INVITE ANYONE

No.... we must proceed.

You are in the minority in that believe, what's more, inviting any combination of the schools you outlined would be regressing and that belief is shared by most of this board as well as the Sun Belt brass. Don't hold your breath on invites to Texas State, UTSA, or UNCC, actually do hold your breath...maybe you'll pass out and we'll be saved from your obsession with FCS and start up programs for a few hours...

Actually, I am starting to believe that you are afraid of the "start up programs". What...no room at the top? FAU and FIU were start ups. So was every other school at one time. Stop throwing temper tantrums everytime somebody has a different opinon. In fact .....go to your room and keep banging your head until you find a better use for it.

Being afraid of "start up programs" and not wanting them is totally different. If enough people beleive you have an obsession with adding FCS programs, maybe, just maybe it's true.

(04-14-2011 12:51 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  In fact .....go to your room and keep banging your head until you find a better use for it.

(04-14-2011 11:29 AM)Cajun1997 Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 05:27 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  According to the "face" of Tech football, the SBC needs Tech more than Tech needs the SBC and Tech moving to the SBC will be a step backwards.

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20110...RONTPAGE|s

I always thought Bradshaw was not too bright but now he has removed all doubt. Thanks Terry. Always enjoyed our rivalry with LaTech, now as far as I care they can rot

Terrry Bradshaw was once a good QB, but he is an idiot otherwise!!

(04-14-2011 12:51 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:41 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:29 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:25 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:21 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  I am a big Terry Bradshaw fan. That is sad.

Alright, now I am a convert.

To hell with La Tech if they do not appreciate the SBC. We can not afford to have members that are not for us. With this attitude, La Tech will be looking to leave as soon as it can. Therefore, send UTSA and Ga State an invite. If UTSA wants to bring Texas State with them, then invite Texas State and UNCC. Let Tech stew in its misery. Go SBC! Go Jags!

Or here's an idea that I know you're going to find difficult to understand...
DON'T INVITE ANYONE

No.... we must proceed.

You are in the minority in that believe, what's more, inviting any combination of the schools you outlined would be regressing and that belief is shared by most of this board as well as the Sun Belt brass. Don't hold your breath on invites to Texas State, UTSA, or UNCC, actually do hold your breath...maybe you'll pass out and we'll be saved from your obsession with FCS and start up programs for a few hours...

Actually, I am starting to believe that you are afraid of the "start up programs". What...no room at the top? FAU and FIU were start ups. So was every other school at one time. Stop throwing temper tantrums everytime somebody has a different opinon. In fact .....go to your room and keep banging your head until you find a better use for it.

You act like I'm the only one who feels this way. You are in the minority. Most of us don't want to add anyone and you're the only one who's supporting these start ups and FCSers.

You're right, FAU and FIU were start ups and FIU just finally had their first winning season and in their second and third season in the league they went a combined 1-23. Scared? My Blue Raiders are a combined 9-3 against FAU and FIU in league play. I don't think drawing comparisons to FAU and FIU are going to gain you much favor in this crowd, don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're both on board and they have both done their fair share for the league, but I'm not interested in adding two schools who would be lucky to do what FAU has done in such a short period of time, or that we may have to wait five seasons for them to do anything of significance like FIU. FIU's winning season and bowl win last year were nice, but need I remind you that they have exactly two OOC FBS wins? No disrespect intended to either FAU or FIU, but if you're aiming to add a few more in the vein of FAU/FIU then you definitely don't have the league's best interest in mind.

And with all due respect to your Jags, adding one start up is setting us back as it is and you want to add two more? You won't find too many who support the idea of one fourth of the league's membership in 2012 being made up of teams who were playing FCS football or no football at all a few years ago.

And I'm not "throwing a temper tantrum every time somebody has a different opinion" because the only somebody with this opinion is you and I would hardly consider me reminding you that you're in the minority as throwing a temper tantrum.

At the end of the day I suppose it doesn't really matter, because our commissioner, AD's and presidents all appear to share the group mentality. So keep bringing up your little start up buddies, just know that you might as well be talking to yourself, because there are only a few here in favor of adding even one of them and by my estimation you're the only one in favor of adding two.

(04-14-2011 12:58 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 12:51 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:41 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:29 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:25 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Or here's an idea that I know you're going to find difficult to understand...
DON'T INVITE ANYONE

No.... we must proceed.

You are in the minority in that believe, what's more, inviting any combination of the schools you outlined would be regressing and that belief is shared by most of this board as well as the Sun Belt brass. Don't hold your breath on invites to Texas State, UTSA, or UNCC, actually do hold your breath...maybe you'll pass out and we'll be saved from your obsession with FCS and start up programs for a few hours...

Actually, I am starting to believe that you are afraid of the "start up programs". What...no room at the top? FAU and FIU were start ups. So was every other school at one time. Stop throwing temper tantrums everytime somebody has a different opinon. In fact .....go to your room and keep banging your head until you find a better use for it.

Being afraid of "start up programs" and not wanting them is totally different. If enough people beleive you have an obsession with adding FCS programs, maybe, just maybe it's true.

Are you his girlfriend or something? What are you saying that you agree that I am promoting start up programs and FCS schools. Yes, and they are Ga State and UNCC and UTSA. What is your point other than beeing a cheer leader for your buddy. Speak up! Don't wimper!

The question is La Tech or who else. He is obsessed with keeping the status quo. Apparently, that is not going to happen. So my two cents are in the pot, your two cents plus his equals six cents. Big whoop!

Chill out!

(04-14-2011 12:26 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  What are the pros of LaTech rejoining the SBC ?

What are the cons ?

I would guess the cons far outweigh the pros.

Even if Tech brought the Shreveport market, Rutherford County 262k (Murfreesboro) is larger than Caddo Parish 254k (Shreveport).

Don't forget Bossier Parish. Lived there for 7 months commuting to Shreveport. But for the river you wouldn't know the difference.

(04-14-2011 01:13 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 12:58 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 12:51 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:41 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:29 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  No.... we must proceed.

You are in the minority in that believe, what's more, inviting any combination of the schools you outlined would be regressing and that belief is shared by most of this board as well as the Sun Belt brass. Don't hold your breath on invites to Texas State, UTSA, or UNCC, actually do hold your breath...maybe you'll pass out and we'll be saved from your obsession with FCS and start up programs for a few hours...

Actually, I am starting to believe that you are afraid of the "start up programs". What...no room at the top? FAU and FIU were start ups. So was every other school at one time. Stop throwing temper tantrums everytime somebody has a different opinon. In fact .....go to your room and keep banging your head until you find a better use for it.

Being afraid of "start up programs" and not wanting them is totally different. If enough people beleive you have an obsession with adding FCS programs, maybe, just maybe it's true.

Are you his girlfriend or something? What are you saying that you agree that I am promoting start up programs and FCS schools. Yes, and they are Ga State and UNCC and UTSA. What is your point other than beeing a cheer leader for your buddy. Speak up! Don't wimper!

The question is La Tech or who else. He is obsessed with keeping the status quo. Apparently, that is not going to happen. So my two cents are in the pot, your two cents plus his equals six cents. Big whoop!

Chill out!

That's just it buddy, we probably are keeping the status quo. The article says we're looking to add established FBS programs within the existing footprint. Nowhere does it say, if we can't do that, we're going to add for the sake of adding.

And MG61 and I(while I do have a lot of respect for the guy) don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but the two of us and the majority of this board are of the opinion that adding for the sake of adding is a bad thing and only in your little fantasy world is adding Georgia State, UTSA or UNCC anything other than adding for the sake of adding.

Lastly, need I remind you that Georgia State has made it clear they're sights are set higher than the Sun Belt, we've already turned down UTSA once, and UNCC is years away from fielding a team and it's highly unlikely they'd consider us, despite having been a charter member, because our MBB is pathetic. So despite your wishing and hoping, it would appear that while you may want this to happen, the league nor the schools in question, agree with you.

(04-14-2011 01:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 12:51 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:41 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:29 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:25 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Or here's an idea that I know you're going to find difficult to understand...
DON'T INVITE ANYONE

No.... we must proceed.

You are in the minority in that believe, what's more, inviting any combination of the schools you outlined would be regressing and that belief is shared by most of this board as well as the Sun Belt brass. Don't hold your breath on invites to Texas State, UTSA, or UNCC, actually do hold your breath...maybe you'll pass out and we'll be saved from your obsession with FCS and start up programs for a few hours...

Actually, I am starting to believe that you are afraid of the "start up programs". What...no room at the top? FAU and FIU were start ups. So was every other school at one time. Stop throwing temper tantrums everytime somebody has a different opinon. In fact .....go to your room and keep banging your head until you find a better use for it.

You act like I'm the only one who feels this way. You are in the minority. Most of us don't want to add anyone and you're the only one who's supporting these start ups and FCSers.

You're right, FAU and FIU were start ups and FIU just finally had their first winning season and in their second and third season in the league they went a combined 1-23. Scared? My Blue Raiders are a combined 9-3 against FAU and FIU in league play. I don't think drawing comparisons to FAU and FIU are going to gain you much favor in this crowd, don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're both on board and they have both done their fair share for the league, but I'm not interested in adding two schools who would be lucky to do what FAU has done in such a short period of time, or that we may have to wait five seasons for them to do anything of significance like FIU. FIU's winning season and bowl win last year were nice, but need I remind you that they have exactly two OOC FBS wins? No disrespect intended to either FAU or FIU, but if you're aiming to add a few more in the vein of FAU/FIU then you definitely don't have the league's best interest in mind.

And with all due respect to your Jags, adding one start up is setting us back as it is and you want to add two more? You won't find too many who support the idea of one fourth of the league's membership in 2012 being made up of teams who were playing FCS football or no football at all a few years ago.

And I'm not "throwing a temper tantrum every time somebody has a different opinion" because the only somebody with this opinion is you and I would hardly consider me reminding you that you're in the minority as throwing a temper tantrum.

At the end of the day I suppose it doesn't really matter, because our commissioner, AD's and presidents all appear to share the group mentality. So keep bringing up your little start up buddies, just know that you might as well be talking to yourself, because there are only a few here in favor of adding even one of them and by my estimation you're the only one in favor of adding two.

+1 dude. I respect that and I get it.

Yes, you and I are not the Commissioner of the SBC. +2

You don't like what I am saying. And I disagree, South Alabama Football is not dragging the SBC down. -1

USA football is a diamond in the rough and the SBC knows. USA sits in the middle of football central. South Alabama will rise and so will the SBC. I don't understand why you state that FAU, FIU and now South keep dragging the SBC down. Should not the question be why doesn't MTSU bring the SBC up? So keep estimating and so will I.

Tech's problem is very simple.
U-L-M

Period. End of discussion.

They would rather be in a conference with 7 teams (one newbie to FBS, one newbie to football) and fly to Moscow, San Jose, Logan, Denver, Las Cruces, and likely Seattle and maybe Orem or Bakersfield than drive to Monroe while praying that one of the Cali schools or Montana has a change of heart by 2014 and brings their football newcomer program in or keep hoping for that CUSA bid.

Risking killing the program is worth not aligning with ULM. That's the entire story. That's why I've been saying Tech is not and was not the target and why I think Texas State is the only one out there with any shot of joining the Sun Belt and I'm not willing to wager dollars that the votes are present.

(04-14-2011 01:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:13 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 12:58 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 12:51 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 11:41 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  You are in the minority in that believe, what's more, inviting any combination of the schools you outlined would be regressing and that belief is shared by most of this board as well as the Sun Belt brass. Don't hold your breath on invites to Texas State, UTSA, or UNCC, actually do hold your breath...maybe you'll pass out and we'll be saved from your obsession with FCS and start up programs for a few hours...

Actually, I am starting to believe that you are afraid of the "start up programs". What...no room at the top? FAU and FIU were start ups. So was every other school at one time. Stop throwing temper tantrums everytime somebody has a different opinon. In fact .....go to your room and keep banging your head until you find a better use for it.

Being afraid of "start up programs" and not wanting them is totally different. If enough people beleive you have an obsession with adding FCS programs, maybe, just maybe it's true.

Are you his girlfriend or something? What are you saying that you agree that I am promoting start up programs and FCS schools. Yes, and they are Ga State and UNCC and UTSA. What is your point other than beeing a cheer leader for your buddy. Speak up! Don't wimper!

The question is La Tech or who else. He is obsessed with keeping the status quo. Apparently, that is not going to happen. So my two cents are in the pot, your two cents plus his equals six cents. Big whoop!

Chill out!

That's just it buddy, we probably are keeping the status quo. The article says we're looking to add established FBS programs within the existing footprint. Nowhere does it say, if we can't do that, we're going to add for the sake of adding.

And MG61 and I(while I do have a lot of respect for the guy) don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but the two of us and the majority of this board are of the opinion that adding for the sake of adding is a bad thing and only in your little fantasy world is adding Georgia State, UTSA or UNCC anything other than adding for the sake of adding.

Lastly, need I remind you that Georgia State has made it clear they're sights are set higher than the Sun Belt, we've already turned down UTSA once, and UNCC is years away from fielding a team and it's highly unlikely they'd consider us, despite having been a charter member, because our MBB is pathetic. So despite your wishing and hoping, it would appear that while you may want this to happen, the league nor the schools in question, agree with you.

The SBC turned down UTSA? When was this request rejected?

Ive stated time and again to the FAU faithful that winning 2 bowl games and a confrence championship in 5 years of FBS play was remarkable and that it spoiled us into thinking it was easy and would always be so. Judgeing by our 09-10 seasons, that result is far more typical.

Look at WKU/FIU and their history of startup play. FIU is just now coming into its own and WKU has strugggled mightily. USA has had great success against much lesser competition and it remains to be seen whether that will translate when they start palying FBS competition.

Moving from FCS to FBS is NOT easy. Compliance issues, funding, facilities, all of these things have to be put into place and stepped up. I know that FAU/FIU would of been healthier programs had we had more time at the FCS level.

Thats why Im against FCS moveups in the 'Belt unless we need it to SURVIVE.

(04-14-2011 01:22 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  You don't like what I am saying. And I disagree, South Alabama Football is not dragging the SBC down. -1

USA football is a diamond in the rough and the SBC knows. USA sits in the middle of football central. South Alabama will rise and so will the SBC. I don't understand why you state that FAU, FIU and now South keep dragging the SBC down. Should not the question be why doesn't MTSU bring the SBC up? So keep estimating and so will I.

I didn't say that USA is dragging the SBC down, I said you're setting us back, in perception if in nothing else. There's a big difference between "dragging down" and "setting back" and I never stated that FAU or FIU is dragging us down either, I simply pointed out that they've both had their share of growing pains. I do expect USA to be successful, but I fully expect the Jags to have their share of growing pains like FAU, FIU and WKU have all had in recent years. Is it possible that USA "pulls a FAU" and wins a conference co-championship and bowl game in their first few years? Sure it is, but don't act as if it's inconceivable that USA could "pull a WKU" for the first few years come nowhere near a winning season.

(04-14-2011 01:26 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:13 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 12:58 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 12:51 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Actually, I am starting to believe that you are afraid of the "start up programs". What...no room at the top? FAU and FIU were start ups. So was every other school at one time. Stop throwing temper tantrums everytime somebody has a different opinon. In fact .....go to your room and keep banging your head until you find a better use for it.

Being afraid of "start up programs" and not wanting them is totally different. If enough people beleive you have an obsession with adding FCS programs, maybe, just maybe it's true.

Are you his girlfriend or something? What are you saying that you agree that I am promoting start up programs and FCS schools. Yes, and they are Ga State and UNCC and UTSA. What is your point other than beeing a cheer leader for your buddy. Speak up! Don't wimper!

The question is La Tech or who else. He is obsessed with keeping the status quo. Apparently, that is not going to happen. So my two cents are in the pot, your two cents plus his equals six cents. Big whoop!

Chill out!

That's just it buddy, we probably are keeping the status quo. The article says we're looking to add established FBS programs within the existing footprint. Nowhere does it say, if we can't do that, we're going to add for the sake of adding.

And MG61 and I(while I do have a lot of respect for the guy) don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but the two of us and the majority of this board are of the opinion that adding for the sake of adding is a bad thing and only in your little fantasy world is adding Georgia State, UTSA or UNCC anything other than adding for the sake of adding.

Lastly, need I remind you that Georgia State has made it clear they're sights are set higher than the Sun Belt, we've already turned down UTSA once, and UNCC is years away from fielding a team and it's highly unlikely they'd consider us, despite having been a charter member, because our MBB is pathetic. So despite your wishing and hoping, it would appear that while you may want this to happen, the league nor the schools in question, agree with you.

The SBC turned down UTSA? When was this request rejected?

Before the WAC had their need to add schools, both Texas State and UTSA both put out feelers to the Sun Belt and we're told to keep looking.

I've never experienced hatred between two programs as I have with ULM and Tech. I'm sure it's as heated as BAMA/Auburn on a smaller scale. There are very few crossovers who will root for both teams. Now, there are many locals that support neither and throw their support behind Grambling instead.

(04-14-2011 01:33 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:26 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:13 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 12:58 PM)MG61 Wrote:  Being afraid of "start up programs" and not wanting them is totally different. If enough people beleive you have an obsession with adding FCS programs, maybe, just maybe it's true.

Are you his girlfriend or something? What are you saying that you agree that I am promoting start up programs and FCS schools. Yes, and they are Ga State and UNCC and UTSA. What is your point other than beeing a cheer leader for your buddy. Speak up! Don't wimper!

The question is La Tech or who else. He is obsessed with keeping the status quo. Apparently, that is not going to happen. So my two cents are in the pot, your two cents plus his equals six cents. Big whoop!

Chill out!

That's just it buddy, we probably are keeping the status quo. The article says we're looking to add established FBS programs within the existing footprint. Nowhere does it say, if we can't do that, we're going to add for the sake of adding.

And MG61 and I(while I do have a lot of respect for the guy) don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but the two of us and the majority of this board are of the opinion that adding for the sake of adding is a bad thing and only in your little fantasy world is adding Georgia State, UTSA or UNCC anything other than adding for the sake of adding.

Lastly, need I remind you that Georgia State has made it clear they're sights are set higher than the Sun Belt, we've already turned down UTSA once, and UNCC is years away from fielding a team and it's highly unlikely they'd consider us, despite having been a charter member, because our MBB is pathetic. So despite your wishing and hoping, it would appear that while you may want this to happen, the league nor the schools in question, agree with you.

The SBC turned down UTSA? When was this request rejected?

Before the WAC had their need to add schools, both Texas State and UTSA both put out feelers to the Sun Belt and we're told to keep looking.

If so, that was a mistake. My opinion, understood. Thank you for the adult conversation. :ncaabbs:

(04-14-2011 01:59 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:33 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:26 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-14-2011 01:13 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Are you his girlfriend or something? What are you saying that you agree that I am promoting start up programs and FCS schools. Yes, and they are Ga State and UNCC and UTSA. What is your point other than beeing a cheer leader for your buddy. Speak up! Don't wimper!

The question is La Tech or who else. He is obsessed with keeping the status quo. Apparently, that is not going to happen. So my two cents are in the pot, your two cents plus his equals six cents. Big whoop!

Chill out!

That's just it buddy, we probably are keeping the status quo. The article says we're looking to add established FBS programs within the existing footprint. Nowhere does it say, if we can't do that, we're going to add for the sake of adding.

And MG61 and I(while I do have a lot of respect for the guy) don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but the two of us and the majority of this board are of the opinion that adding for the sake of adding is a bad thing and only in your little fantasy world is adding Georgia State, UTSA or UNCC anything other than adding for the sake of adding.

Lastly, need I remind you that Georgia State has made it clear they're sights are set higher than the Sun Belt, we've already turned down UTSA once, and UNCC is years away from fielding a team and it's highly unlikely they'd consider us, despite having been a charter member, because our MBB is pathetic. So despite your wishing and hoping, it would appear that while you may want this to happen, the league nor the schools in question, agree with you.

The SBC turned down UTSA? When was this request rejected?

Before the WAC had their need to add schools, both Texas State and UTSA both put out feelers to the Sun Belt and we're told to keep looking.

If so, that was a mistake. My opinion, understood. Thank you for the adult conversation. ncaabbs:

At the time, we were even less inclined to expand than we are now, because conference expansion hadn't reached as far as it has now.

(04-14-2011 01:53 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  I've never experienced hatred between two programs as I have with ULM and Tech. I'm sure it's as heated as BAMA/Auburn on a smaller scale. There are very few crossovers who will root for both teams. Now, there are many locals that support neither and throw their support behind Grambling instead.

I wouldn't go so far as to say "many" support Grambling instead. The Tigers are supported more when they go on the road than when they play at home. As far as crossovers, you're right, there aren't many.

In years past, NLU/ULM fans enjoyed the series with Tech. We didn't like it when we lost to them but we never, at ANY time, entertained ending the series. Tech became quite vocal in ending the series after they lost 7 of 10 games to ULM during the decade of the 80's...that kind of talk was more in fun before that happened, before they lost five in a row to the "junior college". They were embarrassed and didn't understand that the pendulum does swing the other way eventually. The Tech coaches understood that but the Tech fans didn't. Tech ended the series twice, the last time after the 2000 season. There are many versions of the attempts made to renew the series since then but when Dooley opened his mouth about being elite and about separation, we had had enough and gave up trying to make this series happen again. It was like talking to a wall.

If Tech gets into the Sun Belt, that's fine. We're not afraid to play them but they are definitely afraid to play us and I don't see them joining the conference solely because of ULM being in it. And it's a shame that they have that kind of prejudice and bias.

Only thing I don't understand is why any Sun Belt schools play them. Why help them reduce their costs?