Along with the article in the MDJ this morning about Ingles release, was a list of possible prospects:

Casey Alexander: Asst. Belmont

Rod Barnes: Former GA State and Ole Miss Head Coach

Mike Boyd: Asst. ETSU

Pat Knight: Head Coach Texas Tech (succeeded his dad) but has been told that his contract will not be extended after the big 12 tourney.

Robert McCallum: Asst. Georgia Tech

Phillip Pearson: Asst. UGA

I was hoping to get your thoughts on these six guys as well as possible candidates that you might know of.

Casey Alexander, would not be a good fit, and people in the Belmont office say that he is gone, but Kennesaw is not it. I don't think that he would be the right man to progress our program while elevating academic standards for the program. He hails from a private school with far different support structure and academic environment.

Rod Barnes, My favorite choice, decent name recognition, experience in the local area, and not seeking long-term contract, He would be the perfect man at this point in his career to come in clean up the program and then get the momentum of the program moving forward. The question is what will he cost, and will he actually come?

Mike Boyd, Not in this lifetime! I don't want a lackey of Bartow hanging around KSU, Enough Said!!!

Pat Knight, KSU knows how to dream big with this one. I think he would do the job and be great but I also think that he is going to go to a school with a higher profile and the ability to pay him a better salary.

Robert McCallum, I don't mind this choice either simply because he knows the area and has experience coaching at a program in transition (USF). While Tech has not been the greatest in the ACC, he does show some promise as a coach in the A-Sun. Plus he will most likely want to dissociate with Paul Blewit at this point, and must be looking for a new home. Plus once a head coach, you always want to be the head coach. Kennesaw would be a good place for that to happen again.

Phillip Pearson, I don't know what to feel about this one. He has never been associated with any strong programs or good head coaches. He has no true head coach experience (acting coach for a fired coach is different) and I don't know a whole lot about his resume.

Billie Gillispie, end of story.

Person is an incompetent prick.

Barnes would be a repeat of what we just suffered through.

We are not going to pay Pat Knight type of money at Kennesaw just because of his father's reputation.

Greg Matta would not be a bad choice as long as we don't have Daddy ball for four years.


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Along with the article in the MDJ this morning about Ingles release, was a list of possible prospects:

Casey Alexander: Asst. Belmont

Rod Barnes: Former GA State and Ole Miss Head Coach

Mike Boyd: Asst. ETSU

Pat Knight: Head Coach Texas Tech (succeeded his dad) but has been told that his contract will not be extended after the big 12 tourney.

Robert McCallum: Asst. Georgia Tech

Phillip Pearson: Asst. UGA

I was hoping to get your thoughts on these six guys as well as possible candidates that you might know of.

Casey Alexander, would not be a good fit, and people in the Belmont office say that he is gone, but Kennesaw is not it. I don't think that he would be the right man to progress our program while elevating academic standards for the program. He hails from a private school with far different support structure and academic environment.

Rod Barnes, My favorite choice, decent name recognition, experience in the local area, and not seeking long-term contract, He would be the perfect man at this point in his career to come in clean up the program and then get the momentum of the program moving forward. The question is what will he cost, and will he actually come?

Mike Boyd, Not in this lifetime! I don't want a lackey of Bartow hanging around KSU, Enough Said!!!

Pat Knight, KSU knows how to dream big with this one. I think he would do the job and be great but I also think that he is going to go to a school with a higher profile and the ability to pay him a better salary.

Robert McCallum, I don't mind this choice either simply because he knows the area and has experience coaching at a program in transition (USF). While Tech has not been the greatest in the ACC, he does show some promise as a coach in the A-Sun. Plus he will most likely want to dissociate with Paul Blewit at this point, and must be looking for a new home. Plus once a head coach, you always want to be the head coach. Kennesaw would be a good place for that to happen again.

Phillip Pearson, I don't know what to feel about this one. He has never been associated with any strong programs or good head coaches. He has no true head coach experience (acting coach for a fired coach is different) and I don't know a whole lot about his resume.
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Greg Matta would be an awful choice -- Ingle has a much better resume. Matta needs to be a D-I assistant for a while before he ever dreams of getting a D-I head coaching gig.

Gillispie would be huge, but I doubt he'd entertain dropping to the A-Sun from Big XII and SEC experience - I'm sure he'll hold out for a bigger-name conference (even something like the WAC). Even with his baggage, he'd be a major coup, but I don't see it as realistic.

I'm not really all that well versed on up-and-coming assistants, but that's really what you're shooting for here -- someone who's well-regarded among the coaching fraternity, is an Assistant at a winning program, preferably in a league that's a step or two up from your current league.

So if I were on the search committee, I'd be looking at respected assistants in the MAC, Big West, the other MA(A)C, or maybe even the Missouri Valley or Colonial. All things equal, I tend to think someone getting his first shot at a head coaching job is a bit more hungry than a retread.

But that's just my two cents...

Under normal circumstances I may play along with you on the assistants. But I am not really feeling that direction for KSU and it's ok.

With our push for football, we need to look at something a little bigger I think that is stronger. Let's face it, if you were a GREAT assistant, you could get a VERY GOOD job right away (see Butler or Spolestra at Miami). I really don't think we can afford to roll the dice on a guy who is a rumor. On the other hand, we can't spend tons of money either, so I would offer a really strong high school coach that is turning out college players or a highly, highly successful D2 or D3 to get the job done.

(03-08-2011 02:44 PM)ksuowlsfan Wrote:  Greg Matta would be an awful choice -- Ingle has a much better resume. Matta needs to be a D-I assistant for a while before he ever dreams of getting a D-I head coaching gig.

Gillispie would be huge, but I doubt he'd entertain dropping to the A-Sun from Big XII and SEC experience - I'm sure he'll hold out for a bigger-name conference (even something like the WAC). Even with his baggage, he'd be a major coup, but I don't see it as realistic.

I'm not really all that well versed on up-and-coming assistants, but that's really what you're shooting for here -- someone who's well-regarded among the coaching fraternity, is an Assistant at a winning program, preferably in a league that's a step or two up from your current league.

So if I were on the search committee, I'd be looking at respected assistants in the MAC, Big West, the other MA(A)C, or maybe even the Missouri Valley or Colonial. All things equal, I tend to think someone getting his first shot at a head coaching job is a bit more hungry than a retread.

But that's just my two cents...

Take Bartow.

You guys are in a great location. I've never been to your school so i'm unsure of your facilities. I would think you guys can get a quality head coach. Watching your team play the last couple of years shows me talent with no coaching what so ever. I'm telling you right now if Alexander gets this job he will do fantastic. He's a huge reason for Belmont's success. I would think going from a private school to a public one would be a easier transition. Who knows. You guys should be happy Ingle's gone, frankly he sucked.

I think until we're aware of what penalties we're going to receive from the NCAA it's way to early to even guess.

No coach is going to want to come here until they know what's going to happen. 2 scholarship loses or something is one thing, but further scholarship loses, post season bans, etc... who knows what the true story is?

(03-08-2011 03:40 PM)MocOwl Wrote:  I think until we're aware of what penalties we're going to receive from the NCAA it's way to early to even guess.

No coach is going to want to come here until they know what's going to happen. 2 scholarship loses or something is one thing, but further scholarship loses, post season bans, etc... who knows what the true story is?

I don't think it will be that serious ... Enough to ban us from post season play. Remember, the quote was that this situation has been monitored closely prior to the decision being made.

We won't be banned from any post season play. In fact worst case is we lose a scholarship in my opinion. Kurtis Woods was eligible to play according the NCAA clearinghouse this year, but it was our school that didn't allow him to play. Heramb was eligible to play according to the school standards at the beginning of the year but not the NCAA. We aren't talking about egregious violations, we are talking about fractional points deciding kids futures because our support staff wasn't on top of the ball.

We will attract a good coach, because we have a great foundation in place thanks to Ingle. I don't think most of you realize what he put in place. Fundraising, marketing, camps, recruiting, the list goes on. This program was a joke before he got here. We have a lot to be thankful for despite the recent struggles of our team. The more I type, the more pissed off I get about how he is being treated on his exit.

But Bobby Cox still deserved the respect that he earned when he retired from the Atlanta. They could have framed this entire transition much differently. Instead of making it a positive for both the school and Ingle they decided to try and label his 11 years here with a negative framework and then add at the end - oh year thanks for the National Championship and taking our program from the gutters of D2 to D1. Oh yeah, thanks for putting a fundraising platform in place that raised who knows how much money to help our program....oh yeah thanks for being a great and hilarious representative of our university for the past decade plus.

We are in a great position as a program PRECISELY because of Tony Ingle. We made need to go in a different direction, but the cupboard is full because of him. He is BY far the greatest coach to ever coach at our university, and he is one of the great figures in Georgia Basketball. He does not deserve this kind of treatment from Whitlock or as you admitted yourself - fans that are clueless as to the impact he has made on our university. Show some respect, thank the man, and move on with a positive attitude.

I think Kennesaw should wait just a little bit and see what happens with Arkansas. Jerry Pelphrey would be a great fit at Kennesaw, he built a really nice program at South Alabama before taking on the disaster that is STILL Arkansas basketball.
Boyd isn't the right hire for you guys, but I don't think Casey Alexander nor Rod Barnes either.
KSU should also look at Tony Jones from Tennessee.

None of the names mentioned in this thread are all that exciting. I think there is next to zero chance we hire an assistant from a fellow ASun school. There are too many assistants at high majors that would JUMP at a job to coach at Kennesaw for us to even consider a low major assistant for the job.

My guess is that we won't hear anything too soon from the university, but that we will get an announcement before the Final 4. I don't think anyone really has any idea of who we are gonna hire. Ingle would have been a helpful resource in this area, but since Whitlock has burned him, I doubt they would go to him for any help. Unfortunately I think our athletic department is shooting in the dark here, so hopefully the search committee has some knowledgeable and well connected people involved to smooth the process.

(03-09-2011 12:18 PM)KennesawBasketball Wrote:  None of the names mentioned in this thread are all that exciting. I think there is next to zero chance we hire an assistant from a fellow ASun school. There are too many assistants at high majors that would JUMP at a job to coach at Kennesaw for us to even consider a low major assistant for the job.

My guess is that we won't hear anything too soon from the university, but that we will get an announcement before the Final 4. I don't think anyone really has any idea of who we are gonna hire. Ingle would have been a helpful resource in this area, but since Whitlock has burned him, I doubt they would go to him for any help. Unfortunately I think our athletic department is shooting in the dark here, so hopefully the search committee has some knowledgeable and well connected people involved to smooth the process.

I agree. All of those people mentioned in that article have one thing in common except for one if you look closely:

LOSING RECORDS.

Just curious Kennesaw basketball, why would you think the university needs to ask Ingle about his replacement? To me, that's like throwing straw and gas on the fire.

I am not saying he should have chosen his replacement, my point was that if his exit was handled properly (IE: celebrate what he has brought to this school, talk about his championship, bringing a winning tradition, being a good representative). Basically praising him on his way out. Then with his connections in the coaching industry he would have probably aided the university in finding some good candidates.

Whether you think he can coach or not, the fact is that he knows EVERYONE in the industry. From Tubby Smith, to Thad Matta, to Bobby Cremins, to whoever you want to name. The name of Tony Ingle is a recognizable name in the coaching industry. By burning Ingle on the way out we burned a valuable resource that could have been used to help the school find a great coach. Now we have Whitlock, who doesn't know anything about coaching men's basketball leading up a search committee in which we will probably simply be taking applications. Those applications will pile up into the 500-600 range, they will weed out the obvious mistakes, but we may not be searching outside the box. We may not be pursuing a candidate who, while he might not apply for the job, could be persuaded to take a look if the right people encouraged him.

In no way am I saying that Ingle should have named his replacement, that is not his role, but Ingle's rolodex is a valuable commodity, and Whitlock threw it in the garbage can with his puffed up version of why Ingle was being canned.

True. And due to his Rolodex it will not be a problem for him to find his next job.

(03-09-2011 03:54 PM)KennesawBasketball Wrote:  I am not saying he should have chosen his replacement, my point was that if his exit was handled properly (IE: celebrate what he has brought to this school, talk about his championship, bringing a winning tradition, being a good representative). Basically praising him on his way out. Then with his connections in the coaching industry he would have probably aided the university in finding some good candidates.

Whether you think he can coach or not, the fact is that he knows EVERYONE in the industry. From Tubby Smith, to Thad Matta, to Bobby Cremins, to whoever you want to name. The name of Tony Ingle is a recognizable name in the coaching industry. By burning Ingle on the way out we burned a valuable resource that could have been used to help the school find a great coach. Now we have Whitlock, who doesn't know anything about coaching men's basketball leading up a search committee in which we will probably simply be taking applications. Those applications will pile up into the 500-600 range, they will weed out the obvious mistakes, but we may not be searching outside the box. We may not be pursuing a candidate who, while he might not apply for the job, could be persuaded to take a look if the right people encouraged him.

In no way am I saying that Ingle should have named his replacement, that is not his role, but Ingle's rolodex is a valuable commodity, and Whitlock threw it in the garbage can with his puffed up version of why Ingle was being canned.

In my opinion what Kennesaw needs is a respected Assistant from a well to do ACC school like Duke or North Carolina. Someone to come in and get quality recruits that the UNC's of the world pass by b/c of height or something of the other. Kennesaw needs someone with a lot of charisma and charm with a great x's and o's coach as his chief assistant. Who would this be? I have no idea. But I can tell you it's not Mike Boyd or Casey Alexander. Bottom line is I don't know who they should get...but it needs to be someone who can out charm and out recruit the rest of the A-sun. If the money raising program that Ingle put in place is as good as KB says it is....such a coach as I mention ought to be able to come into Kennesaw and cause an explosion.


The down side is that he will probably leave the program in a few years for a bigger program...but if he has created quick growth Kennesaw ought to be able to attract a quality coach who is intent on settling down at KSU and guiding them out of the Atlantic Sun into a better conference.

Like him or not Ingle is a legend at KSU and usually legends are hard acts to follow. I say that with the full knowledge his D-1 performance was not what many of you expected it to be. What KSU needs now is someone young and ambitious who can come in and shake this program up. Put some life back into it. Then KSU should go after its next long time coach.

(03-10-2011 07:56 PM)Goldfinger Wrote:  In my opinion what Kennesaw needs is a respected Assistant from a well to do ACC school like Duke or North Carolina. Someone to come in and get quality recruits that the UNC's of the world pass by b/c of height or something of the other. Kennesaw needs someone with a lot of charisma and charm with a great x's and o's coach as his chief assistant. Who would this be? I have no idea. But I can tell you it's not Mike Boyd or Casey Alexander. Bottom line is I don't know who they should get...but it needs to be someone who can out charm and out recruit the rest of the A-sun. If the money raising program that Ingle put in place is as good as KB says it is....such a coach as I mention ought to be able to come into Kennesaw and cause an explosion.


The down side is that he will probably leave the program in a few years for a bigger program...but if he has created quick growth Kennesaw ought to be able to attract a quality coach who is intent on settling down at KSU and guiding them out of the Atlantic Sun into a better conference.

Like him or not Ingle is a legend at KSU and usually legends are hard acts to follow. I say that with the full knowledge his D-1 performance was not what many of you expected it to be. What KSU needs now is someone young and ambitious who can come in and shake this program up. Put some life back into it. Then KSU should go after its next long time coach.

This post is USELESS without you putting some names into it.

Start over.

Well then it will just have to remain a useless post for I don't have a name. But I've seen the criteria work in the past.

(03-10-2011 08:25 PM)Goodbye Kelvin! Wrote:  This post is USELESS without you putting some names into it.

Start over.

That's a bit rude. I'm pretty sure the search committee will be working primarily off of attributes, not pinning themselves down to a handful of names. At least, I hope...

Be nice.

Pelphrey had South Alabama rolling before bolting to an Arkansas program that needed a house cleaner. Kennesaw would benefit from a re-tread because they wouldn't have the reputation to leave after one or two winning seasons.

(03-09-2011 12:18 PM)KennesawBasketball Wrote:  None of the names mentioned in this thread are all that exciting. I think there is next to zero chance we hire an assistant from a fellow ASun school. There are too many assistants at high majors that would JUMP at a job to coach at Kennesaw for us to even consider a low major assistant for the job.

My guess is that we won't hear anything too soon from the university, but that we will get an announcement before the Final 4. I don't think anyone really has any idea of who we are gonna hire. Ingle would have been a helpful resource in this area, but since Whitlock has burned him, I doubt they would go to him for any help. Unfortunately I think our athletic department is shooting in the dark here, so hopefully the search committee has some knowledgeable and well connected people involved to smooth the process.