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Mark Cuban-Radical Football
02-19-2011 02:53 PM
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If you build it, they will come?
02-19-2011 04:55 PM
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and which schools you think will get the biger cash? I have a feling that those in nonBCS leagues might not like the answer to that. You think he wants the SunBelt,MAC and CUSA champions in that playoff?
02-19-2011 05:52 PM
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(02-19-2011 05:52 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  and which schools you think will get the biger cash? I have a feling that those in nonBCS leagues might not like the answer to that. You think he wants the SunBelt,MAC and CUSA champions in that playoff?

Only if they're having a Boise/TCU/Utah/Hawaii BCS busting season. Although now that two of those 4 are moving on to BCS AQ leagues, I can only see a few teams step it up to that level anytime soon in SMU, UCF, ECU, Fresno, Nevada and yes Boise and Hawaii. The MWC while its been dealt a major blow in terms of getting AQ status will be just fine in the long-run.
02-20-2011 10:36 AM
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Maybe they could try to reach out to the schools that didn't get invited to BCS Bowls. I don't know, just throwing it out there.
02-20-2011 03:42 PM
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I think this is a pretty big failure on Mark Cuban's part. This is pretty much a NIT for Football. I think if Mark would have taken his time and worked with University Presidents, he could have done something a lot better.

I think the success of Radical Football is completely on how the AP voters treat the champion. If a non-bowl eligible team wins the Radical tourney, and gets a top 25 ranking in the final AP, then you will see more teams participate. Also what kind of tv deals does this have? Exposure is a huge selling point for programs.
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No one will accept it, because if they do, they tacitly admit that college sports IS all about money
02-23-2011 09:44 PM
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What makes ANYONE think it ISN'T all about money? 03-banghead
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02-24-2011 09:37 AM
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(02-23-2011 06:18 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I think this is a pretty big failure on Mark Cuban's part. This is pretty much a NIT for Football. I think if Mark would have taken his time and worked with University Presidents, he could have done something a lot better.

I think the success of Radical Football is completely on how the AP voters treat the champion. If a non-bowl eligible team wins the Radical tourney, and gets a top 25 ranking in the final AP, then you will see more teams participate. Also what kind of tv deals does this have? Exposure is a huge selling point for programs.

I believe that you're right. None of the power conferences are going to let their schools give up bowl bids in order to participate in this, and without those power conferences, who is realistically going to watch/care?
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Yea I believe one poster has it correct this is a version of the NIT for football, but questions have to be answered of WHO, WHERE, WHEN, WHAT etc.

WHO will being playing??? WHERE will they be playing??? WHEN will they be playing??? WHAT exactly are they going to be playing for???

Now I don't see this coming about, but Mark Cuban does know how to make money, and a crap load of it, BUT REALLY will this make more than what the BCS generates??? Who knows, but I would like to see OTHER teams get what they deserve instead of the rich get richer off of them.
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(02-24-2011 01:36 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  Yea I believe one poster has it correct this is a version of the NIT for football, but questions have to be answered of WHO, WHERE, WHEN, WHAT etc.

WHO will being playing??? WHERE will they be playing??? WHEN will they be playing??? WHAT exactly are they going to be playing for???

Now I don't see this coming about, but Mark Cuban does know how to make money, and a crap load of it, BUT REALLY will this make more than what the BCS generates??? Who knows, but I would like to see OTHER teams get what they deserve instead of the rich get richer off of them.

Lots of systems (including a "traditional" playoff system) would make more than the BCS *overall*. However, that's not the issue. The real issue is whether a system will preserve the same financial and access *advantages* that the BCS conferences have under the current system. That's the real stumbling block.
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(02-24-2011 02:17 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(02-24-2011 01:36 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  Yea I believe one poster has it correct this is a version of the NIT for football, but questions have to be answered of WHO, WHERE, WHEN, WHAT etc.

WHO will being playing??? WHERE will they be playing??? WHEN will they be playing??? WHAT exactly are they going to be playing for???

Now I don't see this coming about, but Mark Cuban does know how to make money, and a crap load of it, BUT REALLY will this make more than what the BCS generates??? Who knows, but I would like to see OTHER teams get what they deserve instead of the rich get richer off of them.

Lots of systems (including a "traditional" playoff system) would make more than the BCS *overall*. However, that's not the issue. The real issue is whether a system will preserve the same financial and access *advantages* that the BCS conferences have under the current system. That's the real stumbling block.

So basically if the aid is there in the form of funding you are stating this will work! I don't know, but anything is possible, BUT yet again the who, where, when, what has to be answered.
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(02-24-2011 03:42 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  
(02-24-2011 02:17 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(02-24-2011 01:36 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  Yea I believe one poster has it correct this is a version of the NIT for football, but questions have to be answered of WHO, WHERE, WHEN, WHAT etc.

WHO will being playing??? WHERE will they be playing??? WHEN will they be playing??? WHAT exactly are they going to be playing for???

Now I don't see this coming about, but Mark Cuban does know how to make money, and a crap load of it, BUT REALLY will this make more than what the BCS generates??? Who knows, but I would like to see OTHER teams get what they deserve instead of the rich get richer off of them.

Lots of systems (including a "traditional" playoff system) would make more than the BCS *overall*. However, that's not the issue. The real issue is whether a system will preserve the same financial and access *advantages* that the BCS conferences have under the current system. That's the real stumbling block.

So basically if the aid is there in the form of funding you are stating this will work! I don't know, but anything is possible, BUT yet again the who, where, when, what has to be answered.

No, I don't think it would work because it appears (at least to me) is that the intent is that this an NCAA Tournament-style playoff with equal access to AQ and non-AQ schools (and therefore, equal money) alike. That simply won't fly.

The main reason why people don't like the BCS is the perception that the 6 AQ conferences are controlling all of the access and the money. Of course, that's exactly why those 6 AQ conferences love the BCS system. For them to ever agree to a change, a playoff system would have to be even *more* exclusive than the current BCS system. The problem is that the vast majority of playoff proposals do the exact opposite (with auto-bids for the MACs and Sun Belts of the world).
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