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Louisville setting the bar high
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You gotta read this new article. Louisville BASKETBALL is generating enough money to be considered a top 25 FOOTBALL program $$$$ wise.
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Good find Krux...

Funny thing is there are idiots here that think Louisville would be left out of any expansion.
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Let's just build the Big East.
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Good story, Louisville is purshing the bar up on the Big East.
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(02-16-2011 07:36 AM)CatsClaw Wrote:  Let's just build the Big East.

I agree. Its all moot now. The BE is pretty safe now for the forseeable future. We just need time to shore up the league tv deals to make it hard for any program to want to leave. For the record, I think that all of the BE schools would have been desirable enough to land on their feet in another AQ conference had the BE, as we know it, been destroyed. Some would have found their footing a little faster than others, but all the fb schools would have been ok. The league has made some great moves recently. Unlike some on this board, I have alot of confidence in the present BE leadership to right many of our ills. Going forward, the league should be in pretty good shape.
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(02-16-2011 07:36 AM)CatsClaw Wrote:  Let's just build the Big East.

I don't speak for CardinalJim, but for me this isn't about running from the Big East. It is about how the "talk" during the conference shifting constantly underrated UofL's status as an athletic program and a financial asset.

We will make more money than any other Big East team at the end of this season. Yet people often list Louisville as though it might be left out in the cold or regulated back to C-USA in a Major conference shift. The very point of the article was how this lady was shocked at the size of Louisville. Nationally I don't think the athletic program at UofL gets appropriately sequenced in respect to other programs based on unrelated factors, and it is irritating.

One example I use a lot is Georgia Tech. I do this because I lived in ATL a few years and know that G Tech is not nearly as well supported as Louisville. But because GTech is in Atlanta, a much bigger city with much more national connections, the national perspective is often that G Tech is a "Bigger" program. But it just simply isn't the case.
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I agree, cuse. The only 2 conferences that present better prospects for any of our teams are the Big Tin or SEC, and they don't appear to be interested in further expansion...

The ACC isn't a more attractive option any longer. We have better basketball and football competition in conference than the ACC, and out TV money should be fairly comparable in no time...

The Big XII is living on Texas time. Whenever Texas decides it's time to head elsewhere, the Big XII is history...
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Nice work, Louisville.
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I posted this for a couple of reasons...1) like CJ said we are always left out in supercomference talk 2) and this is the main reason...I love the big east and I think this article shows that football doesn't HAVE to drive the bus. If the other schools can get anywhere near where Louisville basketball is $$$ wise, get our football contract on par with the rest of the BCS, get the BEN up and running, we could blow the other conferences away in revenue. We are on the cusp of realizing our potential and are setting ourselves up to maybe not be the "football" big dog but the OVERALL big dog in college athletics.
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(02-16-2011 09:30 AM)ULdave Wrote:  I don't speak for CardinalJim, but for me this isn't about running from the Big East. It is about how the "talk" during the conference shifting constantly underrated UofL's status as an athletic program and a financial asset.

We will make more money than any other Big East team at the end of this season. Yet people often list Louisville as though it might be left out in the cold or regulated back to C-USA in a Major conference shift. The very point of the article was how this lady was shocked at the size of Louisville. Nationally I don't think the athletic program at UofL gets appropriately sequenced in respect to other programs based on unrelated factors, and it is irritating.

One example I use a lot is Georgia Tech. I do this because I lived in ATL a few years and know that G Tech is not nearly as well supported as Louisville. But because GTech is in Atlanta, a much bigger city with much more national connections, the national perspective is often that G Tech is a "Bigger" program. But it just simply isn't the case.

Well said Dave
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College football still drives the bus. It's not like everyone else can duplicate what Louisville is doing.
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Why can't they? Most of the BE basketball schools are close to us in tradition, live in larger cities with deeper pockets. We've shown you the blueprints, now build. You don't hafta be top 25 but if everyone can get top 50 then that should be good enough

And football def drives the bus, I'm just saying if we play to our strengths now, we can use that extra scratch and in 10-15 years let football drive our Ferrari instead 03-wink
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Not every BE AD is Tom Jurich. Raising money is one thing but it's not realistic to expect every Big East school to duplicate what the Cards are doing....if it were they'd already be doing it.
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WVU is moving in that direction, MS, on a somewhat smaller scale. The Athletic Department offices are moving out of the Coliseum once the new basketball practice facility opens next year. There are plans to add luxury suites and other improvements to the Coliseum after that. Once those are in place, there has been talk of expanding Milan Puskar's capacity back up to 70,000, with more luxury suites as a big part of the package. All of that is geared towards increasing the revenue the athletic department can generate...

Louisville isn't the only program working on maximizing the profits. They're just farther along the road to completing that goal...
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(02-16-2011 11:19 AM)krux Wrote:  Why can't they? Most of the BE basketball schools are close to us in tradition, live in larger cities with deeper pockets. We've shown you the blueprints, now build. You don't hafta be top 25 but if everyone can get top 50 then that should be good enough

And football def drives the bus, I'm just saying if we play to our strengths now, we can use that extra scratch and in 10-15 years let football drive our Ferrari instead 03-wink

UL doesn't compete with pro sports, Reds, Bengals, Steelers, Eagles, Phillies,
Giants, Yankees, and on and on. Don't gem me wrong, having pro sports is big time but it will compete with university sports programs, donors etc.
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(02-16-2011 08:15 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(02-16-2011 07:36 AM)CatsClaw Wrote:  Let's just build the Big East.

I agree. Its all moot now. The BE is pretty safe now for the forseeable future. We just need time to shore up the league tv deals to make it hard for any program to want to leave. For the record, I think that all of the BE schools would have been desirable enough to land on their feet in another AQ conference had the BE, as we know it, been destroyed. Some would have found their footing a little faster than others, but all the fb schools would have been ok. The league has made some great moves recently. Unlike some on this board, I have alot of confidence in the present BE leadership to right many of our ills. Going forward, the league should be in pretty good shape.

Well said.

Great job Louisville. 04-bow
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(02-16-2011 02:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  UL doesn't compete with pro sports, Reds, Bengals, Steelers, Eagles, Phillies, Giants, Yankees, and on and on.


Good point.

UofL is also fortunate to have some very successful business leaders in this city who not only have the cash but are willing to throw some to UofL athletics.
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(02-18-2011 08:06 AM)CardHouse Wrote:  
(02-16-2011 02:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  UL doesn't compete with pro sports, Reds, Bengals, Steelers, Eagles, Phillies, Giants, Yankees, and on and on.


Good point.

UofL is also fortunate to have some very successful business leaders in this city who not only have the cash but are willing to throw some to UofL athletics.

It is really important to have local business behind your programs, no doubt about it.
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Louisville sports are not state funded nor supported. We are run from TV revenue, fan and business donations, and football and basketball ticket sales revenue.
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(02-16-2011 11:04 AM)krux Wrote:  I posted this for a couple of reasons...1) like CJ said we are always left out in supercomference talk 2) and this is the main reason...I love the big east and I think this article shows that football doesn't HAVE to drive the bus. If the other schools can get anywhere near where Louisville basketball is $$$ wise, get our football contract on par with the rest of the BCS, get the BEN up and running, we could blow the other conferences away in revenue. We are on the cusp of realizing our potential and are setting ourselves up to maybe not be the "football" big dog but the OVERALL big dog in college athletics.


We are a freak of nature when it comes to basketball. It is a mistake to compare any program to ours or expect any program but a minute handful to be able to generate the same numbers. Football has to drive the bus. Basketball is fine wherever we go but as the article outlines, which has been posted on Forbes this morning, Louisville athletics is growing exponentially and the results on the playing fields are reflecting the investment and revenue generation. We just won three additional conference titles over the weekend.

To my fellow Louisville fans you shouldn't let message board chatter bother you at all. People who make decisions know what is happening at Louisville. Most fans of Rutgers, WVU, Syracuse or Pitt are going to assume things based on familiarity alone. Message board posters are fans too and everyone wants to think their junk is bigger than the next guys. I've not felt the need to tell anyone about ours in this context. It simply is.
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