(01-30-2011 03:09 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-30-2011 03:03 PM)Bearcat04 Wrote:  I don't count on them making 56% of their 3's again either.

A SJU win over Duke, especially in dominating fashion, is huge for the conference and our resume. We could use the help after last night.

I wouldn't consider 5-9 from 3 a dominant, game changing performance.

And no matter how good the win at SJU looks on the resume, without 5 more conference wins it ain't gonna matter.

Not dominant, but in a two-point game, it sure as hell could have been game-changing.

(01-30-2011 02:35 PM)chicago bearcat Wrote:  

(01-30-2011 02:28 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(01-29-2011 11:43 PM)bvillecat Wrote:  Hell, even St. Johns has lost 5/6. We haven't had one 'decent' win anymore.

:iagree:

-signed, Coach K

Go Red Storm!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha, we'll see come selection Sunday how good that win is for us. I've yet to see anything from either team that warrants a bid. But then again, with the NCAA slowly, but surely letting anyone in the tournament, maybe we'll get there some day.

(01-30-2011 07:43 PM)bvillecat Wrote:  

(01-30-2011 02:35 PM)chicago bearcat Wrote:  

(01-30-2011 02:28 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(01-29-2011 11:43 PM)bvillecat Wrote:  Hell, even St. Johns has lost 5/6. We haven't had one 'decent' win anymore.

:iagree:

-signed, Coach K

Go Red Storm!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha, we'll see come selection Sunday how good that win is for us. I've yet to see anything from either team that warrants a bid. But then again, with the NCAA slowly, but surely letting anyone in the tournament, maybe we'll get there some day.

Seriously? Thats youre response that youve yet to see anything from either team that warrants a bid on day that St. Johns crushes the #3 team in the country. I thought #3 was a "very good" team in your book.

This is so incredibly laughable. The defending Champions I am guessing do not quite meet bcatville's standard for "very good teams."

I've made a list of his very good teams...
1. 1991 UNLV Running Rebels
2. 1967-69 UCLA Bruins
3. 1972-74 UCLA Bruins
4. 1982 North carolina Tar Heels
5. 1976 Indiana Hoosiers
6. 1984 Georgetown Hoyas.

That's the list.

If you want to talk elite college basketball teams...well there are none... The only elite basketball teams are the
1960s Celtics and the 1980's Celtics/Lakers .

St Johns will be judged on their body of work just like everyone else.

Nov 16 @St. Mary´s (Ca.) Lost 71-76
Nov 17 Columbia Won 79-66
Nov 25 Ball St. Won 78-73
Nov 26 @Drake Won 82-39
Nov 28 Arizona St. Won 67-58
Dec 1 Wagner Won 69-61
Dec 7 St. Bonaventure Lost 66-67
Dec 11 @Fordham Lost 81-84
Dec 20 Davidson Won 62-57
Dec 21 Northwestern Won 85-69
Dec 29 @West Virginia Won 81-71
Jan 1 @Providence Won 67-65
Jan 3 Georgetown Won 61-58
Jan 8 @Notre Dame Lost 61-76
Jan 12 Syracuse Lost 59-76
Jan 16 Notre Dame Won 72-54
Jan 19 @Louisville Lost 63-88
Jan 22 Cincinnati Lost 51-53
Jan 26 @Georgetown Lost 52-77
Jan 30 Duke Won 93-78

(01-30-2011 08:47 PM)Bearcat 1984 Wrote:  St Johns will be judged on their body of work just like everyone else.

Nov 16 @St. Mary´s (Ca.) Lost 71-76
Nov 17 Columbia Won 79-66
Nov 25 Ball St. Won 78-73
Nov 26 @Drake Won 82-39
Nov 28 Arizona St. Won 67-58
Dec 1 Wagner Won 69-61
Dec 7 St. Bonaventure Lost 66-67
Dec 11 @Fordham Lost 81-84
Dec 20 Davidson Won 62-57
Dec 21 Northwestern Won 85-69
Dec 29 @West Virginia Won 81-71
Jan 1 @Providence Won 67-65
Jan 3 Georgetown Won 61-58
Jan 8 @Notre Dame Lost 61-76
Jan 12 Syracuse Lost 59-76
Jan 16 Notre Dame Won 72-54
Jan 19 @Louisville Lost 63-88
Jan 22 Cincinnati Lost 51-53
Jan 26 @Georgetown Lost 52-77
Jan 30 Duke Won 93-78

Agreed. Right now that is 6 RPI top 100 wins, 4 of which are RPI top 13 wins. They have a couple bad losses, but have a top 30 RPI to go with those really good wins.

Bville is in that crazy twillight zone where blindly pushing his fan agenda so far one direction it goes all the way around the spectrum to start to resemble the polar opposite - trolldom. Entertaining, though.

(01-30-2011 02:02 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  ... But the refs sure set the tone and general direction. For 10 minutes that game felt like we were being homered on the road in a hostile environment. Inexplicable calls. And not just the T's. UC lost several important possessions on head scratchers and WVU got a second chance and converted on several possessions after similar head scratchers.

The folks in the corners by Sec 111 were throwing stuff at the refs and cussing like sailors when the officiating crew was escorted by cops off the court at halftime. Don't condone that one bit. But damn, I shared some of that frustration. 2 of those guys were lookiing to pick a fight with Mick and baiting during timeouts most of the first half. One ref was actually spending time trying to calm down his fellow refs. Never seen that before. Ever.

The tallest official was a real piece of work. Makes one wonder what got in his head either before or during the game. The politics of officiating and the refs that suck up to certain coaches is really infuriating.

Some of the calls were particularly insidious in the second half. They seemed to know that the foul count was skewed in WVU's behalf and started to call a few more on them. But, the times and circumstances in which they called them seemed engineered to not harm the Mountaineers' chances. I was really frustrated a few times they called ticky-tack on minor contact as our guys were driving the lane to a sure layup or as Yancy was backing down his defender in great position for a score and maybe more. The whistles cancelled the pending rewards of our hard work and gave WVU a mulligan on their defensive break-downs.

I agree that not making shots cost us the game, but the officials were a major part of the mental headwind our guys had to beat. I'm just disgusted with that crew. Higgens and Burr aren't much better.

The officials sucked, but good grief UC just does not get any production at all out of their 2's and 3's... This is still the difference between them and the upper echelon Big East teams. None of them can dribble, none can pass well, none can consistently hit open shots. The only guy on the entire team that can consistently create anything is Wright. I just dont get why Bishop plays the 3. He cannot shoot the ball at all, yet he has a free reign to do so. How many open 3's and 8-10 footers did he brick on Saturday? And yet he keeps on firing. I hope some of these incoming freshman guards next year are major upgrades in terms of an all around consistent game.

When Bishop is balling he is outstanding. When he is not, it ain't pretty. I guess Jackson would be the next man in at the 3-4. Problem is the true 3 is probably the thinnest position on this roster IMO. Reason they brought in both Shaq Thomas and Jermaine Sanders for next year.

(01-31-2011 10:42 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  When Bishop is balling he is outstanding. When he is not, it ain't pretty. I guess Jackson would be the next man in at the 3-4. Problem is the true 3 is probably the thinnest position on this roster IMO. Reason they brought in both Shaq Thomas and Jermaine Sanders for next year.

I must always see Bishop when he is at his absolute worst. I admit I've only seen about 6-7 games so far this year (against the upper echelon Big East teams, XU and Oklahoma) and in pretty much every one he has been horrible offensively. I cant remember seeing a guy that plays the 3 miss so many shots so consistently from all over the floor. Then again he may have been lights out in the games I haven't seen.

They certainly need a huge upgrade at that spot and hopefully at least one of Thomas and Sanders pans out. If not both. It's a position IMO, that you have to be really good at to have success in the Big East.

I damn near shut off the stream when Bishop threw the lob pass out of bounds, trying to dunk.

In all fairness, Mick needs to share the blame, needing to realize Jackson, or someone like that, was more suited to execute that play.

Thought you were talking about an enlarged prostate foe a second there, BJ.

You're killing me Rath INTERNET stream.

Mick seemed to simplfy things in his presser. Boiled down to cutting off Mazzula's penetration, rebounding, and not letting missed shots get to us to the point where the defense suffers. All of which I agee with.

What really bothered me was, if it was that simple, why didn't the team do ANY of that I think we have a tournament caliber team - AS LONG AS it doesn't take nights off. It appears to have in this case, and that's what still ticks me off.

(01-31-2011 02:24 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  You're killing me Rath INTERNET stream.

Mick seemed to simplfy things in his presser. Boiled down to cutting off Mazzula's penetration, rebounding, and not letting missed shots get to us to the point where the defense suffers. All of which I agee with.

What really bothered me was, if it was that simple, why didn't the team do ANY of that I think we have a tournament caliber team - AS LONG AS it doesn't take nights off. It appears to have in this case, and that's what still ticks me off.

Against a good defensive team like West Va. and really most of the Big East teams UC must have Wright on the floor. UC has no other point guard that can get them into an offense. When Wright is not on the court they take bad shots, they go one on one , and they have nobody in position to rebound. Wright not being on the floor along with our obvious lack of rebounding against strong teams decided the game.

Why didn't Mick change the defensive assignment to get someone else on Mazulla than Wright. Wright needed to stay in the game on the offensive end. Mazulla kept in from playing with foul trouble. That was the key to the game.

(01-31-2011 02:59 PM)ruffles Wrote:  

(01-31-2011 02:24 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  You're killing me Rath INTERNET stream.

Mick seemed to simplfy things in his presser. Boiled down to cutting off Mazzula's penetration, rebounding, and not letting missed shots get to us to the point where the defense suffers. All of which I agee with.

What really bothered me was, if it was that simple, why didn't the team do ANY of that I think we have a tournament caliber team - AS LONG AS it doesn't take nights off. It appears to have in this case, and that's what still ticks me off.

Against a good defensive team like West Va. and really most of the Big East teams UC must have Wright on the floor. UC has no other point guard that can get them into an offense. When Wright is not on the court they take bad shots, they go one on one , and they have nobody in position to rebound. Wright not being on the floor along with our obvious lack of rebounding against strong teams decided the game.

Why didn't Mick change the defensive assignment to get someone else on Mazulla than Wright. Wright needed to stay in the game on the offensive end. Mazulla kept in from playing with foul trouble. That was the key to the game.

Wright has the same problem as Kilpatrick. He can't play defense.

Watch him. He gets blown by more than Charlie Sheen.

Glad to see Wright looked to shoot after looking pass-first for a few games. Not sure, but I might just think he has the best pure stroke from outside on this roster. He's obviously been working on it. When he is confident, he's pretty dangerous.

(01-31-2011 03:22 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Glad to see Wright looked to shoot after looking pass-first for a few games. Not sure, but I might just think he has the best pure stroke from outside on this roster. He's obviously been working on it. When he is confident, he's pretty dangerous.

Yeah. He was looking like Satterfield. Except of course, his shots were actually going in.

(01-31-2011 03:21 PM)Vottomatic Wrote:  

(01-31-2011 02:59 PM)ruffles Wrote:  

(01-31-2011 02:24 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  You're killing me Rath INTERNET stream.

Mick seemed to simplfy things in his presser. Boiled down to cutting off Mazzula's penetration, rebounding, and not letting missed shots get to us to the point where the defense suffers. All of which I agee with.

What really bothered me was, if it was that simple, why didn't the team do ANY of that I think we have a tournament caliber team - AS LONG AS it doesn't take nights off. It appears to have in this case, and that's what still ticks me off.

Against a good defensive team like West Va. and really most of the Big East teams UC must have Wright on the floor. UC has no other point guard that can get them into an offense. When Wright is not on the court they take bad shots, they go one on one , and they have nobody in position to rebound. Wright not being on the floor along with our obvious lack of rebounding against strong teams decided the game.

Why didn't Mick change the defensive assignment to get someone else on Mazulla than Wright. Wright needed to stay in the game on the offensive end. Mazulla kept in from playing with foul trouble. That was the key to the game.

Wright has the same problem as Kilpatrick. He can't play defense.

Watch him. He gets blown by more than Charlie Sheen.

Then why make him guard Mazulla. He was needed and will be needed on the offensive end of the court the rest of the season. Protect him on the defenisve end. Davis/ Dixon or somebody guard the other teasm point guard but keep Wright in the game. Without him UC has no one to get the team into an offensive set. When he is in there more times than not they get decent shots. Without him they can't get into an offensive set.